The Cycle Show ITV4
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LMNH looks like a god awful place.0
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Just put Dave Harmon and Carlton Kirby on leather wingbacks in front of an open fire in a country house in France somewhere, and let them reminisce about fantastic nostalgic stuff from cycling over the years. Get Sky to help out the Sport by letting their tech guys do the equipment features. And then do some ride with the pros things.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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The Northern Ireland Thread0 -
The joy of cycling is the business of being out on the road blatting along at speeds & distances that in our minds put us firmly in Wiggo or Cav territory. Even if we might not be.
I only saw the first prog and impressions of the next two are entirely gleaned from reading this thread, but it strikes me that it's completely failed to pick up on why we ride our bikes. All the other stuff is peripheral; mending punctures, adjusting helmet straps, pretending to be just off for a quick 15 miler and coming back 4 hours later wearing a silly grin. Like was suggested 5 pages ago, get some barmy stuff like pro riders doing someone's commute, or people like us trying to beat 50mph down our favourite descent. It works for Top Gear. It'd work for this waste of 22 minutes worth of tv.0 -
Nick Cod wrote:I understand the struggle they maybe having with this show, trying to appeal to all disciplines in under 30 minutes isn't easy.
yup, so they shouldn't be trying to do that. If I want 5 minutes of mountain biking, I'll go to Youtube or Vimeo. How to wear a helmet? Youtube. Bike fit? Guess. Why would I want to wait for a programme at a scheduled time, in order to sit through 17 mins of stuff I don't want to watch for 5 of stuff I am, instead of just finding that stuff out whenever I want on the net?
Make each episode focus completely on one aspect of cycling. That way, if I'm not interested in commuting for example (statistically a majority won't be interested in any one aspect), I don't need to watch that show, but the ones I do watch will hold my attention. You might think that would hurt ratings, but honestly unless budget and talent quadruple overnight I can't see anyone tuning in for long. Additionally, this method would let you work out which formats and aspects are appealing, and which aren't.0 -
Its like making top gear with segments on how to fill your car with petrol, or check the oil or how to adjust your seat/steering wheel...
Rather than dealing with the mundane, they should be showing the fun, weird, aspirational stuff.
If they need some short stuff, then maybe a best youtube clip of the week would be worth considering.
I think if they are going to have guests, they should get them out to a trail centre for a day or unfit celebs cycling up box hill or something.
Focus on one cycling discipline for a week and give it longer to do it justice, rather than trying to cover them all in 20 mins.0 -
I'd rather not have 'celebs' featured at all, I've never understood why what they have to say is more valid than some Joe from the street.0
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airbag wrote:Why would I want to wait for a programme at a scheduled time, in order to sit through 17 mins of stuff I don't want to watch for 5 of stuff I am, instead of just finding that stuff out whenever I want on the net?
I wonder if more generally that might be the thing that dooms broadcast TV?
Seems to be an outdated way of getting information when the intertubes are so much more efficient.0 -
Well that was a lot better. Ned Boulting saves the day. An hour gives them more time to do some 'proper' features0
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I wonder what the guy behind was having for his tea? It looked quite tasty.
I hope they have something about London on next week - it must be feeling left out. The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
A lot better - nice mix, balanced timing - enjoyed the BMX thing even though haven't ridden one for 20 years. brought in some history with a bit of a showcase for the Titanic dockyard (NOT london
for a change). I like the relatively light approach. I can come on here to find out about sprockets - benefits of dura ace etc. perhaps more importantly my missus - who currently rides abike three times a year also enjoyed it - and thats pretty important for the programme - a bit of mass appeal. 0 -
Cleat Eastwood wrote:I wonder what the guy behind was having for his tea? It looked quite tasty. I hope they have something about London on next week - it must be feeling left out.
He had one of their salads
How do I know I was sat not that far away from him. Had a brief chat with Rik Waddon and he was genuinely nice bloke. 0 -
twist83 wrote:Cleat Eastwood wrote:I wonder what the guy behind was having for his tea? It looked quite tasty. I hope they have something about London on next week - it must be feeling left out.
He had one of their salads How do I know I was sat not that far away from him. Had a brief chat with Rik Waddon and he was genuinely nice bloke.
Go back and get into the background of a shot with a t-shirt that says, "Hi Cake Stop!" on it.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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The Northern Ireland Thread0 -
Watched last week's tonight on their iplayer thing. Why refer to JogLe as 'north east Scotland to south west England'? Surely they can allow themselves to believe that the audience can grasp what jogLe is?
When do they make the next one available on ITV Play?0 -
Thought last nights show to be ok.
The girl doing the BMX part was very wooden and not good in front of the camera.
Dan Craven was a very good guest and as someone has said Ned Boulting shows how it should be done.0 -
twist83 wrote:
He had one of their salads How do I know I was sat not that far away from him.
Seemed to take him ages to eat it though - or perhaps I just eat too quickly :?0 -
Gazzaputt wrote:Thought last nights show to be ok.
The girl doing the BMX part was very wooden and not good in front of the camera.
Dan Craven was a very good guest and as someone has said Ned Boulting shows how it should be done.
Yep, definitely better, but not there yet.
+1 to the above. The sheer enthusiasm of Ned Boulting, his incredible knowledge and exceptional talent for gob-shitery shows up the current host - nice bloke though he is - horribly. Totally agree about the girl presenter too. She seems sweet enough, but she's cack in front of the camera.
Maybe there is hope? I still think they should move out of LMNH and I'd like to see greater direct involvement with the sport and the cycling industry. Interviews with pro riders in all disciplines at work rather than on that sofa where they look terribly awkward and you don't really get to see what it is they do? Brit manufacturer profiles? Behind the scenes with pro teams?0 -
I thought it was better this week. I record it and forward through the adverts and crap bits.
Enjoyed the Rob Hayles power testing bit, quite an eye opener and also the sprint competition with the 2 presenters. Ned Boulting was good value as a guest as well, he's sound.
Definitely a programme for cycling beginners though, so it isn't everyone's cup of tea.Current bike: 2014 Kinesis Racelight T2 - built by my good self!0 -
MarksMintness wrote:I thought it was better this week. I record it and forward through the adverts and crap bits.
Enjoyed the Rob Hayles power testing bit, quite an eye opener and also the sprint competition with the 2 presenters. Ned Boulting was good value as a guest as well, he's sound.
Definitely a programme for cycling beginners though, so it isn't everyone's cup of tea.
+1 for this summary. The power output article was very interesting and, as you say, a real eye opener, especially considering how far off the pace he was given that he's an ex pro.
Agree about moving out of the cafe setting. Looks a bit too contrived i.e. trying too hard to be laid back and almost incidental.
Definitely better in an hour long format - still think the Top Gear model is not a bad target to aim for. Still sticking with it, hope it improves enough to hang about beyond one series though.Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"0 -
It's getting better, but Ned should be doing the show imo0
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+1 for Ned, was night and day difference compared with Anna Glowinski, think she should stick to her cycling fashion line. Amazing what difference a good presenter can make."Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
"Don't be silly son, you're a bloke, you'll never grow up"0 -
Instead of 30 minutes of a truly dreadful programme we now have 60 minutes! It's so badly made and amateurish, it would be better just to watch a blank screen.
The presenter has no idea what he is doing, that young girl can't speak English or wear clothes very well, or wash her hair it seems and the producers seem to have no idea what cycling is all about. It seems to me that no research has gone into the programme at all, and the only reason that it gets aired at all is because Chain Reaction paid for it. No self respecting TV company would make such unadulterated rubbish with ther own money.
The people in the background are distracting and irritating, the editing and camera work is all a bit THE BILL from the 1980's and the way they approch subjects they cover is condescending.
And why the flippity blumen blasty 'eck do the put cameras on the handle bars looking up a presenters nose? Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
It is a truly awful piece of programming, and looks as though it has been made with no thought of the audience and what they may be interested in, it was made for the production company and the sponsors, for their own self serving benefit, if another series gets made I'll be very suprised.Trek Madone 3.5
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p9uma wrote:Instead of 30 minutes of a truly dreadful programme we now have 60 minutes! It's so badly made and amateurish, it would be better just to watch a blank screen.
The presenter has no idea what he is doing, that young girl can't speak English or wear clothes very well, or wash her hair it seems and the producers seem to have no idea what cycling is all about. It seems to me that no research has gone into the programme at all, and the only reason that it gets aired at all is because Chain Reaction paid for it. No self respecting TV company would make such unadulterated rubbish with ther own money.
The people in the background are distracting and irritating, the editing and camera work is all a bit THE BILL from the 1980's and the way they approch subjects they cover is condescending.
And why the flippity blumen blasty 'eck do the put cameras on the handle bars looking up a presenters nose? Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
It is a truly awful piece of programming, and looks as though it has been made with no thought of the audience and what they may be interested in, it was made for the production company and the sponsors, for their own self serving benefit, if another series gets made I'll be very suprised.
Don't sit on the fence - how about an opinion?
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I saw it for the first time this week. Thinking of introducing it as an initiation into the club to put off new members!
What was up with the colour encoding? Strange colour sky. Agree about the female BMX item presenter - nice girl but not good at being in front of a camera (I'd be rubbish too, but then I am not being paid to do it!).
Do have to question the camera angle of slightly behind Boulting when he's riding down the road - he has to look over his shoulder to talk to camera and I was waiting for a smash!
LMNH is just awful acoustically so move on, and avoid the goons in shot too - it is just too distracting.
I think it'd be a better show if they filmed it in chain reactions warehouse to be honest. They could do a random pick-a-mix product reviews!0 -
I've stopped watching it. I was thinking of combining it with 60 minutes on the turbo but that woukd be unbearable.0
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I'm clearly very easily pleased! It was a cycling show on the tele, so what's not to like? I agree with lots of the comments, but i'm just glad 'normal' folk aren't as grumpy as you lot! If it gets one more person riding a bike it'll be a good thing (and i don'r agree there was anything to actually put people off).0
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You only have to have been a "regular" on this site to appreciate that there is no way on gods earth will a tv progamme satisfy all cyclists. I applaud the fact that an effort is being made to bring cycling to the mainstream, but, lets be honest if it's not striking a chord with the converted what chance does it have with the wider general public?Tail end Charlie
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Well, my wife watched it (quite enjoyed it) and she's not a cyclist.0
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inseine wrote:Well, my wife watched it (quite enjoyed it) and she's not a cyclist.
Good on her mate, is she going to buy a bike now then? Tail end Charlie
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it does have a feel of an A level media students project - which it may well be. The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
Much better this week.. shouldn've started at this kind of level (and then improved further still).
Craven was good on camera... as was Ned (probably needs to give Graham a few lessons)..
I'm also starting to appreciate the enigma that is Rob Hayles more.. he was almost funny this week!
I'm looking forward to Lizzie next week and seeing if they can step it up another level.0
