Tdf Stage 9 *Spoiler*

pb21

Is Wiggins relatively slow cadence a new thing?

Rundfahrt

MrTapir wrote:

Rundfahrt wrote:

disgruntledgoat wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Amazing what the Sky approach can do. Zero to hero. Also-ran to GT podo. It must be the motivational coaches.

Amazing, your favourites get busted and it's a conspiracy, you see no evidence of doping in any of their performances... somebody you're not keen on does well and you're all over it with sly insinuations?

What is it you like to say about class?

Can you not see where he is coming from? Wiggins goes from being a track guy to a guy climbing with the best and time trailing with the best in a few years? It's hard not to be a bit skeptical. ...and no I am not saying Wiggins dopes, just pointing out something that should be obvious.

He was a world class pursuiter so time trialling is basically his thing, and that transfers well to climbing i imagine, i.e. threshold efforts over a long time.

How many top pursuiters have become top climbers?

Jez mon

Froome fastest

Neil McC

Wow! Froome finishes 22 secs faster than Canc

Pross

pb21 wrote:

Is Wiggins relatively slow cadence a new thing?

Was thinking that, I always thought he was a quick pedaller before.

pb21

Froome quickest?!

:shock:

frenchfighter

Sky should have tried for a Sky 1-2-3 on the final podium.

Definitely not happy about Froome beating Cancellara on a flatish course designed for TT specialists.

MrTapir

Rundfahrt wrote:

MrTapir wrote:

Rundfahrt wrote:

disgruntledgoat wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Amazing what the Sky approach can do. Zero to hero. Also-ran to GT podo. It must be the motivational coaches.

Amazing, your favourites get busted and it's a conspiracy, you see no evidence of doping in any of their performances... somebody you're not keen on does well and you're all over it with sly insinuations?

What is it you like to say about class?

Can you not see where he is coming from? Wiggins goes from being a track guy to a guy climbing with the best and time trailing with the best in a few years? It's hard not to be a bit skeptical. ...and no I am not saying Wiggins dopes, just pointing out something that should be obvious.

He was a world class pursuiter so time trialling is basically his thing, and that transfers well to climbing i imagine, i.e. threshold efforts over a long time.

How many top pursuiters have become top climbers?

I dont know, how many? How many have specifically focused on becoming them?

skylla

nibali 1m12s down on froom at T2, evans 1:03 at T2

Pross

Rundfahrt wrote:

MrTapir wrote:

Rundfahrt wrote:

disgruntledgoat wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Amazing what the Sky approach can do. Zero to hero. Also-ran to GT podo. It must be the motivational coaches.

Amazing, your favourites get busted and it's a conspiracy, you see no evidence of doping in any of their performances... somebody you're not keen on does well and you're all over it with sly insinuations?

What is it you like to say about class?

Can you not see where he is coming from? Wiggins goes from being a track guy to a guy climbing with the best and time trailing with the best in a few years? It's hard not to be a bit skeptical. ...and no I am not saying Wiggins dopes, just pointing out something that should be obvious.

He was a world class pursuiter so time trialling is basically his thing, and that transfers well to climbing i imagine, i.e. threshold efforts over a long time.

How many top pursuiters have become top climbers?

How many have tried?

frenchfighter

Cancellara says he lost his radio early on but felt like he gave his all and did as well as he could do. He thought he's done enough to win. He couldn't give any more.

gingermagician

Wiggins 1.18 up on Evans.

BOOM, as 'da kidz' say

Rundfahrt

So we have nothing to compare him to, thus we can't immediately say it suits it and shouldn't be a bit surprising.

ddraver

Serious Question - Is it easier for the later riders becasue they have a time check rabbit to chase? How much difference does it make. I'm not a fan of TT's (as you can surely see today) so I'm genuinely not sure.

Could Fab have mistakenly gone 99.5% not 100% becasue he knew that he was comprehensively spanking everyone else?

skylla

wiggins fastest at T2, 16s over Froome

ilm_zero7

Paulie W wrote:

Is there an advantage for the later riders in terms of the weather conditions?

said here

ILM Zero7 wrote:

these later runners seem to be generally benefiting form a lighter wind and slight wind shift in favour of a quicker ride - adds greater merit to that early performance of Westra, even if the big names are good at TT

seems to be coming true

moray_gub

afx237vi wrote:

The recent run of very close GTs is over.

Far too early to say that so many things can happen between now and Paris.

afx237vi

Pross wrote:

Rundfahrt wrote:

How many top pursuiters have become top climbers?

How many have tried?

Bradley McGee finished 8th in the Giro.

B3rnieMac

Kelly thinking Wiggo has been told to slow down! Dear me....

cal_stewart

Wiggin's position on a TT bike makes me hard. Could watch it all day

Chris James

frenchfighter wrote:

Sky should have tried for a Sky 1-2-3 on the final podium.

Definitely not happy about Froome beating Cancellara on a flatish course designed for TT specialists.

Leaving aside the doping chat, the press has been full today of riders pointing out that the course is anything but flat and will favour GC riders above pure TTers.

You can see that Martin dropped a load of time ... mind you the puncture and broken hand won't have helped!

dsoutar

Slightly off-topic. Has BW ever commented on having a go for the hour ?

Pross

Rundfahrt wrote:

So we have nothing to compare him to, thus we can't immediately say it suits it and shouldn't be a bit surprising.

Christophe Moreau was a pursuiter / time triallist and managed 4th place in the Tour at the height of the Armstrong years (post suspension and therefore probably clean).

bigmat

Looking good for Wiggins, although Froome appears to have eased off in that middle section. I reckon the gap will be about that by the finish. Evans maybe 1:30 down? Its bordering on an Indurain performance.

bigmat

Looking good for Wiggins, although Froome appears to have eased off in that middle section. I reckon the gap will be about that by the finish. Evans maybe 1:30 down? Its bordering on an Indurain performance.

MrTapir

Rundfahrt wrote:

So we have nothing to compare him to, thus we can't immediately say it suits it and shouldn't be a bit surprising.

Well my point was really one of mechanics: time trialling is a constant hard effort at just below threshold, over a period of time say 45 minutes or an hour. That isnt too different to climbing a mountain the way Wiggins does, commonly known as Dieseling his way up. The two disciplines - at least the way Wiggins seems to do it - are not that different if you look at it that way.

Perhaps someone with more technical expertise could back me up

moray_gub

Kelly thinking Wiggins is holding back and trying not too put much time into Cadel ...........dont buy that myself

Neil McC

Blimey, Evans could be nearly 2 minutes behind Wiggins on GC by the end of this

afx237vi

Moray Gub wrote:

afx237vi wrote:

The recent run of very close GTs is over.

Far too early to say that so many things can happen between now and Paris.

I said 4-5 minutes before the race started and I reckon that'll still be the winning margin. A crash is the only way Wiggins ain't winning this.

Paulie W

My observation here is that if you take Cancellara out of the equation - who missed a chunk of the season through injury - the time differences are pretty much what we'ver seen in other races this season and last.