Tdf Stage 4 *Spoiler*

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  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    Well Done Andre Griepel ...why do some folk not like him. ? is it cos he's german ..cue the flak

    Na, it's becasue he only wins chippers ;)
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    I have literally no opinion on Andre Griepel.

    What happened with the crash, I tuned in after a meeting to see Cavendish getting going again and 1.6km to go.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    Well Done Andre Griepel ...why do some folk not like him. ? is it cos he's german ..cue the flak

    Who doesn't like him? He had a few hissy fits when he was at HTC which is understandable but he still hasn't done a huge amount to show he should have had more chances there. I've been far more impressed with him this season.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    edited July 2012
    rebs wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    PTP Shake ups....

    :cry:
    5 out of 5 baby! :D

    Hmm, Flipping Robbie Hunter is going to get some bad vibes sent from me today....

    Edit - you know what actually - it was whoever who threw the bottle out was nt it...threw it and then spazzed up!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • sonny73
    sonny73 Posts: 2,203
    GC as was.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Anyone else struggling to make out Cav from EBH? I'm watching on a laptop and I thought Cav had just got around the crash. Did any GC riders go down?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,403
    Lotto rider in lead out train just stopped pedaling in middle of road when sprint started- no effort to get out of the way.

    Thought Cav had missed the crash initially - Robbie hunter at fault?

    Will EBH be in white?
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited October 2012
    Chavanel is so great. Lotto's train is the best in this race by far.

    Very glad Greipel won.

    1 André Greipel (Ger) Lotto Belisol Team 5:18:32
    2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD 0:00:00
    3 Tom Veelers (Ned) Argos-Shimano 0:00:00
    4 Matthew Harley Goss (Aus) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:00:00
    5 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:00:00
    6 Jonathan Cantwell (Aus) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank 0:00:00
    7 Daryl Impey (RSA) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:00:00
    8 Kris Boeckmans (Bel) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 0:00:00
    9 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Sky Procycling 0:00:00
    10 Ruben Perez Moreno (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 0:00:00
    Contador is the Greatest
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    There was a Real Peloton ages ago, when Cavendish was really moaning at Greipel and calling him rubbish etc. Anyway, he was asked about it and he sounded really awkward like he didnt want to bad mouth someone. Came over really well.

    Also, I remember him working on the front last year for Pip, which is nice.

    Is Eisel saying he was responsible?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    okgo wrote:
    Not sure why Sagan needed to cut right in and shoulder someone right at the end, he wasn't going to better his position in doing so...

    'cos he's practicing being a t0sser like Ferrari
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    derbygrimpeur wrote:
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    Well Done Andre Griepel ...why do some folk not like him. ? is it cos he's german ..cue the flak

    Na, it's becasue he only wins chippers ;)

    Is that were you get YOUR great bike handling skills in chipper races 8) .

    I think wiggins was one of the riders in the gutter as well maybe it was Eisel ?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    dsoutar wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Not sure why Sagan needed to cut right in and shoulder someone right at the end, he wasn't going to better his position in doing so...

    'cos he's practicing being a t0sser like Ferrari

    Had a look at the replay - he does nt touch anyone, just tucks back in to the slipstream...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Petacchi never looked like he was going to come round Greipel on the replays. He looks like he can barely turn the pedals.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Greipel doing Cav's acceptance speech!
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    dsoutar wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Not sure why Sagan needed to cut right in and shoulder someone right at the end, he wasn't going to better his position in doing so...

    'cos he's practicing being a t0sser like Ferrari


    Sagan's NOW a tosser ??? - says you with how many Tour stages etc etc ....Grow up eh.
  • PeteinSQ
    PeteinSQ Posts: 2,292
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Lotto rider in lead out train just stopped pedaling in middle of road when sprint started- no effort to get out of the way.

    That was a strategy that http://inrng.com/ predicted this morning, that way people trying to take advantage of the train have to work that much harder to get up to Greipel.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Will EBH be in white?

    No, crash was in last 3km so no time gained.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    No wonder Kittel has had a good season. Look how good his leadout man is ( Tom Veelers , third today , fourth on Monday. )
    _
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    PeteinSQ wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Lotto rider in lead out train just stopped pedaling in middle of road when sprint started- no effort to get out of the way.

    That was a strategy that http://inrng.com/ predicted this morning, that way people trying to take advantage of the train have to work that much harder to get up to Greipel.

    This is exactly the tactic Zabel said he'd know he was finished if he ever had to employ.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    ddraver wrote:
    dsoutar wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Not sure why Sagan needed to cut right in and shoulder someone right at the end, he wasn't going to better his position in doing so...

    'cos he's practicing being a t0sser like Ferrari

    Had a look at the replay - he does nt touch anyone, just tucks back in to the slipstream...

    Look again. He comes right back over and pushes into someone (dunno who it was)

    The reason lotto train looks so good is because they're the only ones who've bothered with one!
    Blog on my first and now second season of proper riding/racing - www.firstseasonracing.com
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Podium girls are better this year, definately win over the Giro girls.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    okgo wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    dsoutar wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Not sure why Sagan needed to cut right in and shoulder someone right at the end, he wasn't going to better his position in doing so...

    'cos he's practicing being a t0sser like Ferrari

    Had a look at the replay - he does nt touch anyone, just tucks back in to the slipstream...

    Look again. He comes right back over and pushes into someone (dunno who it was)

    The reason lotto train looks so good is because they're the only ones who've bothered with one!


    ...Come on ES, show it again...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Farrar blamed Bernie on Sporza and Bernie confirmed himself for the crash.
    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,184
    Team mates sitting up in the middle of the bunch celebrating the win really annoys me. When did that start as I can't remember it always happening.
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    edited July 2012
    So question :

    Sagan can seemingly win these hill finishes with ease, we've seen the data, not a stupid number of watts that is out of reach of most of the sprinty types I'm sure, so why is it that people can't challenge him? Is it because he has the power of a sprinter but can get over the hills in a good position? Or is it something else? Surely Cav could lay down 1200 watts on a hill finish, is it just because he gets dropped on the hills that he can't manage it?

    Just trying to be methodical about Sagan's dominance...
    Blog on my first and now second season of proper riding/racing - www.firstseasonracing.com
  • islwyn
    islwyn Posts: 650
    LOL - Did anyone notice the presenter of Eurosport fart in the post race chat?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clWfy5qrq5o

    Funny as.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Pross wrote:
    Team mates sitting up in the middle of the bunch celebrating the win really annoys me. When did that start as I can't remember it always happening.


    Since cycling was in teams.
    _
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    ddraver wrote:
    okgo wrote:

    Look again. He comes right back over and pushes into someone (dunno who it was)


    ...Come on ES, show it again...

    Ah dammit, stupid Advert popped back up and then the stream crashed - I mantain I was correct!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    okgo wrote:
    So question :

    Sagan can seemingly win these hill finishes with ease, we've seen the data, not a stupid number of watts that is out of reach of most of the sprinty types I'm sure, so why is it that people can't challenge him? Is it because he has the power of a sprinter but can get over the hills in a good position? Or is it something else? Surely Cav could lay down 1200 watts on a hill finish, is it just because he gets dropped on the hills that he can't manage it?

    Just trying to be methodical about Sagan's dominance...

    It's because he can climb better. If your remember Bettini, he could do similar, and they said when he sprinted he put down a huge amount of power.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Sagan 147 pts
    Goss 92
    Greipel 87
    Cav 86

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