TdF 2012 Stage 1 **Spoilers**
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Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:Theres only one reason why one of the cervelos snapped the way it did. Its obvious that garmin have got their bikes off ebay and bought a load of taiwan fakes.
lol they had better start posting on some forums about the dodgy frames and not to trust anything out of China...
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I think that the hype around Sagan was such that maybe it's a bit of a disappointing first win, it would have been nice(!) if Sagan had taken a bit of a turn, or if he'd gone for a longer sprint.
However, he used his brain, got Canc to work for his benefit and won, despite perhaps not being as strong (in absolute terms) as Cancellara. Being able to win without being the strongest rider one the day...isn't that what road racing is about, otherwise we'd all be petitioning for every stage to be run as a TT.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
zammmmo wrote:iainf72 wrote:Savoldelli:"Sagan wanted to help Cancellara but from the car they ask him not to do it" #sagan #tdf #cycling
via @albertocelani
Thanks for that, puts a different spin on things!
It's the old "I was just following orders" excuse. :-p0 -
Jez mon wrote:I think that the hype around Sagan was such that maybe it's a bit of a disappointing first win, it would have been nice(!) if Sagan had taken a bit of a turn, or if he'd gone for a longer sprint.
However, he used his brain, got Canc to work for his benefit and won, despite perhaps not being as strong (in absolute terms) as Cancellara. Being able to win without being the strongest rider one the day...isn't that what road racing is about, otherwise we'd all be petitioning for every stage to be run as a TT.
As Tweeter Sagan noted - Press ask Sagan if he have favourite Armchair, Sagan say "Yes, he called Fabian" :P
With regard to the helmets, it does mark out the team that is winning really well, which makes the competition a bit more important, and also is a hell of a marketing boost for the team sponsor winning it as the commentators are talking about them all day!
As is well known, I could nt care less what they look like really...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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wiggins seemed to disappera just before the climb, i wonder if it was to do with froome's puncture?"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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gsk82 wrote:wiggins seemed to disappera just before the climb, i wonder if it was to do with froome's puncture?
He seemed to be moving up just as Fab lit the blue touch paper. I seem to recall a brief overhead shot of the lemon and lime modfather doing his up the tempo thing and FC just disappearing off. My concer for Wiggo is that although I think he can ride very hardup hills he still doesn't have the killer climber kick that is sometimes necessary.
Having said that I don't think he was interested in the stage at all but just marking the contenders.0 -
Did Rogers ever get back after his crash? The way the bunch started going just afterwards it would have been hard to get across.0
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The break is in the scaphoid bone of his hand. He's going to carry on, with a protective sleeve around the area.Blazing Saddles wrote:OK, this does come from the CN forums, but....Brian Holm says Martin's at the hospital to get an X-ray of his hand, not collarbone.
as of about 10 minutes ago.0 -
Yep, got back and finished in the first group. Pretty impressive given how fast the bunch were going at the time.Pross wrote:Did Rogers ever get back after his crash? The way the bunch started going just afterwards it would have been hard to get across.0 -
Pross wrote:Did Rogers ever get back after his crash? The way the bunch started going just afterwards it would have been hard to get across.
He did, yes. Richie Porte lost a few minutes, apparently he was helping Froome but he finished a couple of minutes further back so not sure what happened there. Helps sort out who's who in the Sky pecking order though, although still not sure which of Rogers / Froome will be allowed to hang on for high GC place and which will be required to bury themselves every day (ultimately both if necessary I guess, but I would expect them to try and have another man up there in the GC as a insurance policy if possible...)0 -
some interesting posts, so ff does not like it if some one wins other than how he approves? Sagan did the right thing Fab had to keep going or he would have been caught, so what was sagan supposed to do? . I dont think he will win the flat stage sprints with the main sprinters so he has to take advantage of events like yesterday, felt sorry for fab but there you go its a race. As for teams yellow helmets, ffs get a life is it really that important what colour helmets are? Anyway makes it easier to spot the team. Wiggo looked comfortable moving up the field on the steep bit, my money is still on him to win though evans is also looking sharp. Early doors yet, theres normally a surprise rider pops up at some point.0
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iainf72 wrote:Dear people new to the Tour. To answer your question, no, it's not always this dull.
In the words of Mrs Doyle, 'Maybe I likes the misery.'
It's the TDF FFS. Dullness is relative. I'd opt for the dullness of a quiet stage of this over many more 'engaging' pursuits!
So, on the team competition leaders' helmets - they're optional? I'm actually wanting sky to be overtaken by a team that decides not to wear them.
Oh also, I completely accept that teams will acquire sponsors just before the biggest race in the calendar, but the lovely all-blue Saxo Bank kit has been ruined by the inclusion of the yellow parts! People moan about football teams constantly changing their kits (and the more garish designs).0 -
Whilst I normally disagree with Iain's cassandra-like (or Private Frazer, if you need a pop culture reference) approach to bike racing, I actually dozed off between 70 and 60km to go.
I did see them ride past the Achouffe brewery though complete with enormous gnome statue."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Tony Martin confirmed as still in the race, despite a fracture on the scaphoid of his left hand.
Will wear a plastic cast and see how it goes.........."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Whilst I normally disagree with Iain's cassandra-like (or Private Frazer, if you need a pop culture reference) approach to bike racing, I actually dozed off between 70 and 60km to go.
I did see them ride past the Achouffe brewery though complete with enormous gnome statue.
Have to admit I wasn't watching, but was it any more boring than a normal flattish stage of a GT?You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
I think it was... It was in most regards, your usual GT flat stage, however, what made it extra dull was that the break was never allowed more than 4 minutes, once the race was on telly. It was supremely well controlled.
You just knew that as soon as one team got it into their head to ride, they had less chance than an average break."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Always the way in the first week though as everyone in the break has a genuine shot at yellow (assuming they did nt loose buckets of time in the Prologue). I Wiggo had won the Prologue then maybe they might have let them go but RSNT have nothing else to defend this year...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Today's announcement of the 2013 Tour Down Under route is a good reminder to be grateful for the TdF.0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:I did see them ride past the Achouffe brewery though complete with enormous gnome statue.
Sampled a few of their products in Maastricht after Amstel Gold.
I can confirm they are really rather good and get better the more you have.0 -
Even then, possibly if Canc was within a second(ish) of yellow, we could well have seen them dragging it back to try and set Cancellara up to gain a few seconds over Wiggo.
Talking of RSNT, Schleck did make it in with the main group yesterday didn't he? I don't recall seeing him in the last 15 kYou live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Didn't see much of the race live but I did see two of the hills where it seemed that the riders at the rear of the peloton were going so slowly that had to stop. Could have been a good stage on that route.0
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“I tried to get Sagan to come through to do some work, I think we could have gained time, but he wouldn’t, just like in Milano Sanremo. During the race I asked him to put a teammate up in the front to pull but he claimed he wasn’t sure he had the legs today. I know how it is in your first Tour de France. It’s always difficult. But attacking and then stopping and ending up somewhere in the back is not my style. When I go, I like to really go and put the hammer down.”
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Sagan's SRM file for the stage, for those of you who like that sort of thing:
http://www.srm.de/index.php/us/srm-blog ... france/727Twitter: @RichN950 -
frenchfighter wrote:
When he's been interviewed what struck me was how lean Cancellara looks ATM.0 -
Interesting stat 209 watts average, guess most uk racrs could stay inthe bunch with tha if they weighed 60kg instad on 80 like meRichN95 wrote:Sagan's SRM file for the stage, for those of you who like that sort of thing:
http://www.srm.de/index.php/us/srm-blog ... france/727 0
