TdF 2012 Stage 1 **Spoilers**

iainf72

Good analysis from Mr Birnie

http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-c ... ras-wheel/

Moomaloid

Cancellara "I could've just stayed in the bunch and kept the yellow jersey, which would've been nice. But then finishing the way i did and keeping the jersey is much nicer."

gotta love him!

blazing_saddles

OK, this does come from the CN forums, but....

Brian Holm says Martin's at the hospital to get an X-ray of his hand, not collarbone.

as of about 10 minutes ago.

Squaggles

I'm confused by this bike racing thing Sagan wins and he's a wanker ?

RichN95.

How have I been on this forum over six years and not realised that wanker gets through the swear filter? I shall be making up for lost time.

oneof1982

Not sure Ifollow much (any)of the above. However, anyone with doubts about Sagan, either in term of ability or inegrity should take ten minutes out and look at a track match sprint.

The bottom line is Sagan rode a cracking race, was a worthy winner, and most importantly will pose a threat if he rides the Olympic Road Race.

iainf72

This might help

surreychris

David Millar just posted this pic of Robbie Hunters bike. Damaged in the Martin crash!

http://yfrog.com/g0lijhaj

tailwindhome

iainf72 wrote:

This might help

After "SAGAN WORKS" should there not be a "ATTACK AGAIN" then a line back to "SAGAN STILL THERE?"

zammmmo

peterst6906 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

You lot thought it was cool? Classless and inappropriate given he didn't show the strength.

I thought it was a totally classless celebration, but he's still only a kid. At 22, you could hardly expect him to be humble.

I thought that. Let's hope he shows better judgement in time to go with his obvious ability.

The Mad Rapper wrote:

zammmmo wrote:

Exactly. Hardly the strongest was he.

Well he won didn't he? So clearly he was.

The strongest rider obviously doesn't always win, otherwise they might as well have every stage as a time trial, or a variant of it e.g. mountain TT.

greasedscotsman

SurreyChris wrote:

David Millar just posted this pic of Robbie Hunters bike. Damaged in the Martin crash!

http://yfrog.com/g0lijhaj

Oh that wouldn't have happened if he had been on a titanium bike or something...

Moomaloid

I do hope those dumb ass Yellow Helmets are phased out before.. oh... tomorrow! Who's idea was that? i'm assuming its the the leading team right? But why would we need to know them in the pack? Surely a yellow number is enough?

Gazzetta67

Tony Martin was up there at the finish in the Wiggins/Evans group....He cant be out the race surely.

zammmmo

iainf72 wrote:

Savoldelli:"Sagan wanted to help Cancellara but from the car they ask him not to do it" #sagan #tdf #cycling

via @albertocelani

Thanks for that, puts a different spin on things!

iainf72 wrote:

This might help

I think the bit after "Sagan works" needs a further set of possibilities

greasedscotsman

Moomaloid wrote:

I do hope those dumb ass Yellow Helmets are phased out before.. oh... tomorrow! Who's idea was that? i'm assuming its the the leading team right? But why would we need to know them in the pack? Surely a yellow number is enough?

Back in the day, the leading team used to wear yellow caps, as shown by Team Z...

Gazzetta67

greasedscotsman wrote:

SurreyChris wrote:

David Millar just posted this pic of Robbie Hunters bike. Damaged in the Martin crash!

http://yfrog.com/g0lijhaj

Oh that wouldn't have happened if he had been on a titanium bike or something...

And Cervelo are charging you about £6000 in the shops for these frames ??? does Joe Bloggs get a "Crash Replacement"

thamacdaddy

This whole Sagan didn't deserve to win is rubbish. It's about tactics and he did everything perfect for what he is about, winning in a difficult sprint. Ebh gets some cred but had to do too much because he missed the cut when chinny went and that's the fine line he needed to be on the right side of. I am really not sure how cancellara is going to ever win a stage or day race again unless he can power away other riders off his wheel because no one is ever going to do an equal turn with him. Still a gutsy effort today and played about the only card he has

cogidubnus

Firstly, hats off to Cancellara for attacking. Always makes the difficult finishes interesting.

Sagen- I thought rode it perfectly. There was no need for him to help Cancellara after bridging especially once it became clear that they weren't going to be caught by the peleton. After that his tactics were spot on, he bided his time and then blew Eddy and Fabien away with his sprint.

I liked his celebration. To me it showed a) he enjoyed his win and b) he has a bit of personality. I would rather see the latter rather than the usual bland arms in the air celebration.

Sky's yellow helmets- look horrible but made it easier to spot Wiggins et al.

greasedscotsman

Gazzetta67 wrote:

And Cervelo are charging you about £6000 in the shops for these frames ??? does Joe Bloggs get a "Crash Replacement"

Ehh? So if I buy a Ferrari, drive it into a tree, then they should give me a new one as Alonso gets a new car when he crashes his...

RichN95.

greasedscotsman wrote:

Moomaloid wrote:

I do hope those dumb ass Yellow Helmets are phased out before.. oh... tomorrow! Who's idea was that? i'm assuming its the the leading team right? But why would we need to know them in the pack? Surely a yellow number is enough?

Back in the day, the leading team used to wear yellow caps, as shown by Team Z...

I remember they also used to have green caps for the 'team points classification'.

Here's the only photo I could find:

Moomaloid

Have people on here really been questioning Sagan's win? Dear oh dear... :roll:

TMR

Gazzetta67 wrote:

And Cervelo are charging you about £6000 in the shops for these frames ??? does Joe Bloggs get a "Crash Replacement"

A Crash Replacement discount. Between 15-38% apparently.

http://forums.cervelo.com/forums/p/9824/68111.aspx

iainf72

Moomaloid wrote:

Have people on here really been questioning Sagan's win on here? Dear oh dear...

The TdF stages have been rezoned to "chipper" now too.

cogidubnus

Gazzetta67 wrote:

And Cervelo are charging you about £6000 in the shops for these frames ??? does Joe Bloggs get a "Crash Replacement"

No but Joe Bloggs can take out crash insurance

Squaggles

Moomaloid wrote:

Have people on here really been questioning Sagan's win? Dear oh dear... :roll:

He's a wanker apparently , better ask frenchfighter what he means though

After hearing his interview sagan seems like one of the most harmless blokes on the planet and his celebration was a little joke with his mates

Abdoujaparov

Anyone know what happened to peter velits? Apart from losing a stack of time. Bad luck or just bad?

I'm watching the tour in norway atm and the EBH worship is quite funny, if a little embarrassing.

I swear they showed over 30mins of him in the prologue yesterday - not bad for a 7min race. Three interviews, one conducted at jogging speed just as EBH had crossed the line and looked like he was about to pass out. About 5 mins of him warming up, 5mins warming down and a bunch of clips of his stage wins last year.

He's a big deal here! Oh and they're big Sky fans too unsurprisingly. A lot of wiggins and cav talk.

Turfle

Velits punctured just before the final climb.

Jambes de Fer

Thought it was a great final 15. As soon as the crashes happened it all got jittery and lively. They should throw in some random obstacles on each stage!

Brilliant rides from Cancellara and Sagan. I thought Sagan was absolutely right to stay on the wheel. Cancellara tried to launch the decisive attack, he couldn't drop everyone, it's a bit much to then go "bum you're still there, well could you give me a lead out then?" Sagan was in the perfect position for the stage win, I don't see why he should give that up 500m from the line, even if it would have helped out a popular rider.

Surprised Wiggins let himself get so far back before the climb, a crash could have cost him a lot of time. Still he seemed to get up it pretty well.

Finally, those yellow helmets look stupid.

nweststeyn

So are we all united on the yellow helmets at least then?

fungus_the_muffin_man

Theres only one reason why one of the cervelos snapped the way it did. Its obvious that garmin have got their bikes off ebay and bought a load of taiwan fakes.