USADA files doping charges against Lance

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    He was fvcking crazy making that comeback. And I bet they regret not getting Landis a job now.

    none of this would have happened if he had just gone away....

    who are the docs? apart from old mike

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    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • ellerslierd
    ellerslierd Posts: 266
    Jez mon wrote:
    Scan reading leaked USDA letter that Ian posted.

    Think messy might be an understatement

    I have now too scan read the letter :shock:
  • Richrd2205
    Richrd2205 Posts: 1,267
    Who needs graphs when you've got a spreadsheet?

    This one's for Bernie:

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    'S'not fair: that's just numbers! Where's the graph? Surely we determine everything by graphs now....

    *A little relief that this one might finally be put to bed....*
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Evidence trail dates back to 1996!


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Redknapp has left Spurs! Damn you evil ying yang God!


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Is bruyneel suspended as a DS as well now?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    The statute of limitations 'loophole' is v interesting
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... nner.html#

    Same old denial.

    I thought he gave that up?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Man, everything's coming up (Frank) Schleck....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Also, WHY IS IT ALWAYS IN JUNE!??!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    D'ya think all pros see the calendar turn to June and just start sh!tting the bed for the next month?
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    My overriding feeling is that this is going to get messy, but I hope this is a bit like all these other stories, everyone get very excited, and then (with a few exceptions) everyone moves on



    Naw, this is in an entirely different league. In fact, they'll have to create a league especially for it.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Is bruyneel suspended as a DS as well now?

    AFAIK DSs don't need a licence, same thing happened in F1 when a team boss was banned, except he didn't have a licence to start with
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Amazing how USADA can manage a coherent, professional written communication. Whereas UCI...
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    Strava is not Zen.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Anyone want to send the suspects an e-mail?... their addresses are all there....
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908


    going for the court of public opinion/popularity.... its not impossible he could wiggle out of this
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    calvjones wrote:
    Amazing how USADA can manage a coherent, professional written communication. Whereas UCI...

    The USADA always strike me as a very competent organisation. Even Travis's press release tonight was good "yes, we've opened proceedings, no we're not telling you anything else"
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    sherer wrote:
    Is bruyneel suspended as a DS as well now?

    AFAIK DSs don't need a licence, same thing happened in F1 when a team boss was banned, except he didn't have a licence to start with

    wasn't riis chucked off the tour for a yr or ttwo as DS? or was that just a ASO PR thing?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    God you go out for a meal on a midweek and this breaks :D what have i missed ??

    Does this mean he will be stripped off his titles and more importantly will his lovechild "Moray Gub" ever come on here again 8)
  • ellerslierd
    ellerslierd Posts: 266
    Tusher wrote:
    My overriding feeling is that this is going to get messy, but I hope this is a bit like all these other stories, everyone get very excited, and then (with a few exceptions) everyone moves on



    Naw, this is in an entirely different league. In fact, they'll have to create a league especially for it.

    I feared as much. The fact that the USPS conspiracy is already being referred to as "The Conspiracy" in that letter
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    the conspiracy stuff is real nasty if they make it stick....
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    They're big charges too.

    Trafficking, assisting, covering up, encouraging, all with aggrevating circumstances....
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    So what`s the worst scenario that could happen to Armstrong ??? i`m thinking bruyneel and USPS riders are involved as well.
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    But why did the FBI give up? Surely this is massive fraud against a number of high profile american companies?
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  • Rule74Please
    Rule74Please Posts: 307
    There were rumors of this coming out in August 2013 when the statute of limitations was up on his tour wins.

    I think somebodies hand has been forced?

    Wonder who didn't stop when advised to ???????
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    If LA sticks to his "not going to fight it" line well....where does that leave things?

    If he won't defend against it, but JB etc do....
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    There were rumors of this coming out in August 2013 when the statute of limitations was up on his tour wins.

    I think somebodies hand has been forced?

    Wonder who didn't stop when advised to ???????

    Statute of Limitations is likely to not apply in this case because of the circumstances.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    They're running with that 2001 Swiss positive too, and that Armstrong encouraged others to too.


    Are there any riders who were contacted that we don't know yet?

    Hamilton, Landis, Hincape.