USADA files doping charges against Lance

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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Turfle wrote:
    Still trying to catch up here. Has anything new been stated/hinted/alleged?

    He's been charged. That's new

    For doping during the comeback. That's new too
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    So, could his 3rd place in 2010 TDF get stripped? Does Wiggo get presented with a big number 3 with an asterix next to it in some low key ceremony in a car park sometime next year?

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Can't help wondering if some of the current Radioshack problems stem from this.

    Hincapies Retirement yesterday. Andy Schleck will not ride the tour as of today. Stinks.















    ok, ok, stretching it a bit. :lol:

    You're forgetting the Hog's subpoena when he landed for the tour of cali
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    How stupid are you?

    It's obvious.

    Derrr!












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  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Yep, finally got the Wash Post page to open. Dodgy values from 2009/2010 is a biggie.

    "Immediately banned from competition". Pretty historic words those.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    iainf72 wrote:
    cycling5280 wrote:
    passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one---> CLEAN

    Well, obviously not, because the USADA are saying he's effectively failed tests.

    Looks more like blood data analysis than a failed test to me.
    blood samples from Armstrong in 2009 and 2010 that were “fully consistent with blood ma­nipu­la­tion including EPO use and/or blood transfusions.”

    You need a seriously high level of probability to actually trigger action based on the blood passport (think it's something like a 1/1000 probability on three occasions - the sports scientists site has the actual figures...)

    But if you've got witness testimony then you could probably use a lower figure as corroborative evidence.

    So putting two and two together and making a radical guess that the answer is somewhere in the region of four:

    USADA got given the files from the grand jury they asked for. USADA looked at the blood passport values. USADA talked to a lot of lawyers. USADA charged him.
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    mididoctors wrote:
    This would sum up his career and current situation better I think

    I really regret clicking on that link. My poor eyes :(
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    edited June 2012
    Lance's official response:

    Lance Armstrong Responds to USADA Allegation

    AUSTIN, TX -- June 13, 2012 -- I have been notified that USADA, an organization largely funded by taxpayer dollars but governed only by self-written rules, intends to again dredge up discredited allegations dating back more than 16 years to prevent me from competing as a triathlete and try and strip me of the seven Tour de France victories I earned. These are the very same charges and the same witnesses that the Justice Department chose not to pursue after a two-year investigation. These charges are baseless, motivated by spite and advanced through testimony bought and paid for by promises of anonymity and immunity. Although USADA alleges a wide-ranging conspiracy extended over more than 16 years, I am the only athlete it has chosen to charge. USADA’s malice, its methods, its star-chamber practices, and its decision to punish first and adjudicate later all are at odds with our ideals of fairness and fair play.

    I have never doped, and, unlike many of my accusers, I have competed as an endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one. That USADA ignores this fundamental distinction and charges me instead of the admitted dopers says far more about USADA, its lack of fairness and this vendetta than it does about my guilt or innocence.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Was it the new Nike Livestrong range that finally did it?


    lance_armstrong1.jpg

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    :lol:
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  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    You'd never have won the holiday on '3-2-1'...

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • whiteboytrash
    whiteboytrash Posts: 594
    inkyfingers wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Getting him for 2009 / 2010 is fascinating. Remember all the talk he was trying to do it clean.

    Meanwhile, continued working with The Myth, and same old tricks.

    So how come USADA are only taking action now if they collected incriminating samples in 2009-10? Are they just as incompetent and crooked as the UCI?

    EDIT: Damn, somewhere got there before me, oh well.

    The reason being they were waiting for the Federal investigation to conclude. They were also supplied information from this investigation.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
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    oh yes

    yes

    yes

    yes

    yes

    YES






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  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Knew July wasn't far away!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    You'd never have won the holiday on '3-2-1'...

    I'm still lost... :(
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Me too. And I routinely get 7 letter words on Countdown.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Did he catch HEP from his IV ?
    T...
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  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    ddraver wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    You'd never have won the holiday on '3-2-1'...

    I'm still lost... :(

    It say 'I CHEAT' ok, OK? IT SAYS 'I CHEAT'

    Jeeeezzzuss...

    :wink:
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Gonna talk now JV? We're all listening.

    Hincapie retiring..........Schleck out of the Tour...........the Feds waiting for The Hog when he landed in the States.......I'm def going to see this movie the very day it's out.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    You'd never have won the holiday on '3-2-1'...

    I'm still lost... :(

    It say 'I CHEAT' ok, OK? IT SAYS 'I CHEAT'

    Jeeeezzzuss...

    :wink:





    No, it doesn't. It can't.
    There's a P in there.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    calvjones wrote:
    Did he catch HEP from his IV ?
    T...

    :lol:

    This thread is surprisingly hilarious.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Tusher wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    Damn... the evidence was there all along... we just weren't looking hard enough at the graph... how stupidly Scooby-Doo of us!

    7369739150_73dcfc415b_z.jpg

    :lol: Chapeau that man.

    Am I being a bit thick here...?

    Look again and think letters...

    Ahhhh...

    I L HEOT

    Obvious innit.

    You'd never have won the holiday on '3-2-1'...

    I'm still lost... :(

    It say 'I CHEAT' ok, OK? IT SAYS 'I CHEAT'

    Jeeeezzzuss...

    :wink:





    No, it doesn't. It can't.
    There's a P in there.

    Grrrrr... so I don't have photoshop OK? I'm gonna have to do a sneaky switcherooney if this gag is ever gonna get off the ground...OK here comes version 2:

    7369739150_50e3efde58_z.jpg

    Now can we please get back to the gloating! :evil:

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    afx237vi wrote:
    calvjones wrote:
    Did he catch HEP from his IV ?
    T...

    :lol:

    This thread is surprisingly hilarious.



    It's the bottle of cheap bubbly we just opened Monkeyman- goes straight to some people's heads.



    Oooooh, I forgot, this forum moves in esteemed circles. All those wealthy investment banker types in the City- it's the crate of expensive champagne we've just opened.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Sweet Little Cycling Rodent,


    You are officially a genius.

    Another glass of Bollinger?

    There's a tray of mushroom vol-au-vents over there- by the time this thread is done, we'll be starving.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Some people I thought were quite respectable are proving to be very pro-Lance on twitter...must be the Omerta.
    http://www.twitter.com/InTheGC http://www.InTheGC.com http://www.facebook.com/intheGC
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Some people I thought were quite respectable are proving to be very pro-Lance on twitter...must be the Omerta.

    More likely fear of sponsors rushing for the door.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Some people I thought were quite respectable are proving to be very pro-Lance on twitter...must be the Omerta.


    oh go on- name names LL

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