USADA files doping charges against Lance

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  • IanLD
    IanLD Posts: 423
    "BikingBernie wrote:
    I think Armstrong, Bruyneel and Ferrari might look rather fetching in orange overalls. :lol:

    Would that not be the chain gang?? :D
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    BikingBernie wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    " Hey, man, you don't talk to Lance. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a road-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say do you know that 'EPO' is the middle word in 'NEPOTISM'? That's right, jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad. Oh yeah. His myth's dying, I think. He hates all this, he hates it! But ... the man's ... uh ... he reads poetry out loud, alright? ... And a voice! A voice. ... He likes you because you're still alive. He's got plans for you. I mean, what are they going to say, man, when he's gone, huh? Because his myth is dying, when it dies, man, when it dies, cycling dies. What are they going to say about him? What, are they going to say? he was a kind man? he was a wise man? he had plans? he had wisdom? Bullshit, man! Am I going to be the one, that's going to set them straight? Look at me: wrong! ... You!"
    :wink:


    Even the jungle wanted him dead.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12703004&start=1680
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    8000 views for 29 pages isnt a very high ratio tbh.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    mididoctors wrote:
    one day this doping story is going to end
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    8000 views for 29 pages isnt a very high ratio tbh.

    People see the graph and think their time would be better spent punching themselves in the balls.

    :P
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    edited June 2012
    mididoctors wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12703004&start=1680

    So it has all (kinda) happened before. Whats the difference now?

    Why didn't the officials take any notice before?
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    dsoutar wrote:
    Yellow Peril wrote:

    Meanwhile, is it the opinion of the forum that the comeback was his downfall and he would have otherwise got away with it if he'd have stayed retired?

    If it is, in that case should we all be grateful that he did indeed make a comeback ? Tricky one, that !!

    Yup, it was Sastre's fault. More specifically, it was a rider widely acknowledged to be clean whom LA considered to be little more than a domestique. Carlos's won pushed him over the edge- how right to say his pride couldn't take it. The confessions would have dripped out over the coming decades though.

    As regard Flandis, (and I really never took to him) but I've always had a niggle about his positive- enough testosterone in his blood to violate 100 virgins or something. Reminds me of Ben Johnson (I think) who had been suspected of doping for years, but who was finally caught with a ridiculous amount of steroids in his system- he's always stated the test was contaminated, that he knew too much about doping to be caught in such an important race, and that there was 'a mystery man' inside doping control, although he did admit to doping, just not at that race.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    coriordan wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12703004&start=1680

    So it has all (kinda) happened before. Whats the difference now?

    Why didn't the officials take any notice before?

    well thats a good question
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    As if things couldn't get any worse.
    Looks like it's time for the UCI to demand another "Astana payment".
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radiosh ... -continues
    SGDT.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    mididoctors wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12703004&start=1680

    So it has all (kinda) happened before. Whats the difference now?

    Why didn't the officials take any notice before?

    well thats a good question

    Which part?

    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    BikingBernie wrote:

    Radioshack won't be in the sport much longer no matter what happens...

    Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:45 am
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.

    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.
    _
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    What an embarrassment
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.

    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.




    Rick? Your a fan of the Wire? Your my hero.
    http://www.twitter.com/InTheGC http://www.InTheGC.com http://www.facebook.com/intheGC
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.

    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.




    Rick? Your a fan of the Wire? Your my hero.

    :lol:

    Reckon Armstrong's started dumping burners yet?
    _
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.

    So will it work this time? I would love to see everyone involved be hauled under to the full extent of the applicable law.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,118
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    As if things couldn't get any worse.
    Looks like it's time for the UCI to demand another "Astana payment".
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/radiosh ... -continues
    SGDT.

    Ha! Can't blame the Kazakhs this time :wink:
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    What we need to remember here is he's not been charged with anything yet. USADA have asked 5 people to respond to some questions and on the basis of those answers they'll decide whether or not to proceed.

    In answer to why didn't they do anything before - No one would speak about it openly before, but thanks to Floyd and Tyler, and the pressure of the other investigation, people have started talking
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.

    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.




    Rick? Your a fan of the Wire? Your my hero.

    :lol:

    Reckon Armstrong's started dumping burners yet?

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiittttttttt :lol:
    http://www.twitter.com/InTheGC http://www.InTheGC.com http://www.facebook.com/intheGC
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    iainf72 wrote:
    What we need to remember here is he's not been charged with anything yet. USADA have asked 5 people to respond to some questions and on the basis of those answers they'll decide whether or not to proceed.

    In answer to why didn't they do anything before - No one would speak about it openly before, but thanks to Floyd and Tyler, and the pressure of the other investigation, people have started talking

    Odd. I would have thought that people would be desperate to talk about it - the sport and competitors being in such a position that they almost have to be cheating (and encouraged to by their team mates/managers) in order to even have half a chance to do well.

    I wonder how naive the youngsters are knowing that they are signing up for this...or perhaps I am being too grim
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    What we need to remember here is he's not been charged with anything yet. USADA have asked 5 people to respond to some questions and on the basis of those answers they'll decide whether or not to proceed.

    In answer to why didn't they do anything before - No one would speak about it openly before, but thanks to Floyd and Tyler, and the pressure of the other investigation, people have started talking

    Odd. I would have thought that people would be desperate to talk about it - the sport and competitors being in such a position that they almost have to be cheating (and encouraged to by their team mates/managers) in order to even have half a chance to do well.

    I wonder how naive the youngsters are knowing that they are signing up for this...or perhaps I am being too grim

    Lots of pros tell the story of "we heard it happened, but you never really thought it would actually happen to you"...
    _
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    coriordan wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.

    So will it work this time? I would love to see everyone involved be hauled under to the full extent of the applicable law.


    I guess we will find out...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • BikingBernie
    BikingBernie Posts: 2,163
    edited June 2012
    BikingBernie wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    " Hey, man, you don't talk to Lance. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a road-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say do you know that 'EPO' is the middle word in 'NEPOTISM'? That's right, jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad. Oh yeah. His myth's dying, I think. He hates all this, he hates it! But ... the man's ... uh ... he reads poetry out loud, alright? ... And a voice! A voice. ... He likes you because you're still alive. He's got plans for you. I mean, what are they going to say, man, when he's gone, huh? Because his myth is dying, when it dies, man, when it dies, cycling dies. What are they going to say about him? What, are they going to say? he was a kind man? he was a wise man? he had plans? he had wisdom? Bullshit, man! Am I going to be the one, that's going to set them straight? Look at me: wrong! ... You!"
    :wink:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12703004&start=1680

    That was of course me trying to be dennisn, when we all thought of him as being something like Dennis Hopper in Apocalypse Now. :lol:
  • dougzz
    dougzz Posts: 1,833
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's like the wire.
    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.

    Tru dat
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    coriordan wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The feds were investigating, the USADA was investigating at the same time. The feds case was ended but the USADA continued their investigation. The feds case was about fraud, the USADA is about doping.

    Not much of a mystery.

    So they have just finished a 2 year investigation? (not that there's anything wrong with that, just wondering)

    Just wondering how everyone seems to know everything yet noone does anything about it.

    It's like the wire.

    We all know they deal drugs - but they need to be caught in a way that they can't wriggle out of on some legal technicality.




    Rick? Your a fan of the Wire? Your my hero.

    :lol:

    Reckon Armstrong's started dumping burners yet?

    Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

    Edit - Ah God dammit LL! Like Uh, you know?! :wink:
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The real question is - do you mumble "5-0" to yourself when you see a police car, and call it the pOlice...?

    I digress. To bring it back on topic, I believe someone posted a Clay Davis compilation quite a few pages back.
    _
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    The real question is - do you mumble "5-0" to yourself when you see a police car, and call it the pOlice...?

    I digress. To bring it back on topic, I believe someone posted a Clay Davis compilation quite a few pages back.

    If someone could find that - never found it on youtube again!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    A Collation of Pro responses - http://bananasandwater.tumblr.com/

    thanks Festinagirl...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    coriordan wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    The real question is - do you mumble "5-0" to yourself when you see a police car, and call it the pOlice...?

    I digress. To bring it back on topic, I believe someone posted a Clay Davis compilation quite a few pages back.

    If someone could find that - never found it on youtube again!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840l ... detailpage a little elongated.
    _

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