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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    What was the gap between Evans and Wiggins?

    1.43


    How significant is that for the Tour?[/excited commentator voice]

    Was it a full on effort by both?

    Ja hard to say. You'd have to guess probably yes.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    You need to get better between this race and the Tour.

    Is there any improvement left in Wiggins?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Wiggo's trending on twitter.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    iainf72 wrote:
    You need to get better between this race and the Tour.

    Is there any improvement left in Wiggins?


    Here we go - so the post-Dauphine speculation begins ;).
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  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    What was the gap between Evans and Wiggins?

    1.43


    How significant is that for the Tour?[/excited commentator voice]

    Was it a full on effort by both?

    I thought Evans looked as if he was riding at 80% ???? he did lose his bidon as well which didnt help. Wiggins just gets better and better...am a bit worried he`s peaked too early as it`s 7 weeks away to paris.
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    TailWindHome wrote:

    How significant is that for the Tour?[/excited commentator voice]

    Was it a full on effort by both?

    I'd say very significant. Evans looked really good early in the week.
    Plus Martin must've been going for the stage win.

    Very, very impressive.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    [quoteOne from Belgium, one from Kenya and one from Hong Kong. Who is actually the best rider born in mainland Britain - G? Dan Martin?!][/quote]

    and who cares?
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Stage 4 Results
    1 WIGGINS, Bradley (SKY PROCYCLING) 1h 03' 12"
    2 MARTIN, Tony (OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP) + 00' 34"
    3 ROGERS, Michael (SKY PROCYCLING) + 01' 11"
    4 KELDERMAN, Wilco (RABOBANK) + 01' 25"
    5 CHAVANEL, Sylvain (OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP) + 01' 33"
    6 FROOME, Christopher (SKY PROCYCLING)
    7 DURBRIDGE, Luke (ORICA - GREENEDGE) + 01' 37"
    8 EVANS, Cadel (BMC RACING) + 01' 43"
    9 MILLAR, David (GARMIN-BARRACUDA) + 01' 51"
    10 SANCHEZ GIL, Luis Leon (RABOBANK) + 01' 53"
    11 VAN DEN BROECK, Jurgen (LOTTO BELISOL) + 02' 12"
    12 GRIVKO, Andriy (ASTANA) + 02' 16"
    13 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay (BMC RACING) + 02' 28"
    14 SIVTSOV, Kanstantsin (SKY PROCYCLING)
    15 KIRYIENKA, Vasili (MOVISTAR) + 02' 30"
    16 BRAJKOVIC, Janez (ASTANA) + 02' 33"
    17 BOASSON HAGEN, Edvald (SKY PROCYCLING) + 02' 38"
    18 PLAZA MOLINA, Ruben (MOVISTAR) + 02' 39"
    19 COPPEL, Jerome (SAUR - SOJASUN) + 02' 49"
    20 AMADOR BAKKAZAKOVA, Andrey (MOVISTAR) + 02' 50"

    General Classification after Stage 4
    1 WIGGINS, Bradley (SKY PROCYCLING) 14h 11' 07"
    2 MARTIN, Tony (OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP) + 00' 38"
    3 ROGERS, Michael (SKY PROCYCLING) + 01' 20"
    4 CHAVANEL, Sylvain (OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP) + 01' 38"
    5 EVANS, Cadel (BMC RACING) + 01' 44"
    6 KELDERMAN, Wilco (RABOBANK) + 01' 45"
    7 FROOME, Christopher (SKY PROCYCLING) + 01' 48"
    8 MILLAR, David (GARMIN-BARRACUDA) + 02' 00"
    9 SANCHEZ GIL, Luis Leon (RABOBANK) + 02' 02"
    10 GRIVKO, Andriy (ASTANA) + 02' 18"
    11 VAN DEN BROECK, Jurgen (LOTTO BELISOL) + 02' 22"
    12 BRAJKOVIC, Janez (ASTANA) + 02' 47"
    13 COPPEL, Jerome (SAUR - SOJASUN) + 02' 55"
    14 AMADOR BAKKAZAKOVA, Andrey (MOVISTAR) + 02' 56"
    15 KIRYIENKA, Vasili (MOVISTAR) + 02' 58"
    16 MARTENS, Paul (RABOBANK) + 03' 01"
    17 BARREDO LLAMAZALES, Carlos (RABOBANK) + 03' 02"
    18 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay (BMC RACING) + 03' 03"
    19 PLAZA MOLINA, Ruben (MOVISTAR) + 03' 07"
    20 SIVTSOV, Kanstantsin (SKY PROCYCLING) + 03' 13"
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    You need to get better between this race and the Tour.

    Is there any improvement left in Wiggins?

    The others do. At this rate Wiggins can hold this form and tear them up.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Barredo top 20?

    Woah.
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    1.43

    That's a LOLworthy result :)
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    You need to get better between this race and the Tour.

    Is there any improvement left in Wiggins?

    The others do. At this rate Wiggins can hold this form and tear them up.

    You can't hold form for 7 weeks I'd suggest.

    He said he's targetted this stage and worked for it but he's not reading too much into evans performance.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    I thinking as preparation/dry run for the Tour this has been perfect so far for Wiggins.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    1.43

    That's a LOLworthy result :)

    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tremayne
    tremayne Posts: 378
    I agree with Frenchie. Wiggins isn't the one currently thinking 'WTF do I have to do to match this monster. It was ok when he couldn't climb, maybe we should just go for stage wins....'

    I personally thought he was in Tour winning form last year and started a few threads along those lines. This year? Well - he is something else altogether. An absolute machine on a TT bike.

    Was actually reading some quotes from 'wide eyed and legless' this morning. Its taken many years - but I think our man is going to write tour history this year.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    iainf72 wrote:
    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.

    Evans is going to have to put some serious time into Brad in the mountains. I don't see that happening.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.

    Evans is going to have to put some serious time into Brad in the mountains. I don't see that happening.

    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    iainf72 wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.

    Evans is going to have to put some serious time into Brad in the mountains. I don't see that happening.

    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.

    Evans might even be faster...
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    iainf72 wrote:
    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.

    What makes you think that?
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Evans might even be faster...

    In a TT? Am I missing something?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Evans might even be faster...

    In a TT? Am I missing something?

    Evans has got a great record in third week TTs.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Iainf72 wrote:

    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.

    Evans might even be faster...

    Or he might be even slower (unlikely). Up until last year the received wisdom was that Evans didn't TT well in the third week (based on 2007 & 2008 Tours).

    We just don't know.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Iainf72 wrote:

    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.

    Evans might even be faster...

    Or he might be even slower (unlikely). Up until last year the received wisdom was that Evans didn't TT well in the third week (based on 2007 & 2008 Tours).

    We just don't know.

    Really?!?!
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  • tremayne
    tremayne Posts: 378
    The general view seems to be Evans as chief rival (and clearly - he won the thing last year) but do we see any other realistic competition for Wiggo??

    I would have said Shleck - but he seems to be having 'issues' of some sort or another.

    I just can't see Evans getting the better of Wiggins.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.

    Evans is going to have to put some serious time into Brad in the mountains. I don't see that happening.

    Week 3 of the Tour there will be nothing between Wiggins and Evans in terms of TT'ing ability.

    Jesus Iain, you don't like Cav because he's one of them there sprinter folk, yet Wiggins is a climber and still doesn't float your patriotic boat?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Evans might even be faster...

    In a TT? Am I missing something?

    Yes. Being a good tester doesn't mean you're a good tester in week 3 of a grand tour.

    Have a look at Andy Schleck performances in week 3. They tend to be a lot better, because GT's are about recovery, and if you recover well, that's what matters. So if you're contending for overall, you turn yourself inside out for 3 weeks and then have to TT well.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Where did Richie Porte come? He didn't get a top 15?
    Impressive to see Rogers making a return to TT'ing
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    And he lost 1:09 to Wiggins in the shorter TT in last years Dauphine.

    Evans is going to have to put some serious time into Brad in the mountains. I don't see that happening.

    It only takes a couple of days for things to change RE Vuelta wiggins faltered and froome took over...as i said i just hope wiggo can hold his form as paris is 7 weeks away...Evans i guess is only about 80% just now.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    tremayne wrote:
    The general view seems to be Evans as chief rival (and clearly - he won the thing last year) but do we see any other realistic competition for Wiggo??

    I would have said Shleck - but he seems to be having 'issues' of some sort or another.

    I just can't see Evans getting the better of Wiggins.


    Going into the Dauphine Evans was favourite for the Tour, with Wiggins in 2nd, so he's Wiggin's chief rival, especially since he's in a similar mould (TTer who can climb).
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