Doesn't help the Tri-athlete cause
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That some, (Not all) aren't the brightest bulbs in the boxfeltkuota wrote:Paul 8v wrote:Wow, these pictures have confirmed my thoughts about triathletes
Scared to ask but, what are those thoughts?
Everyone knows about the bike handling skills thing, I've seen it first hand, some lad on the chain gang rode in to a hedge, I instantly thought triathlete, turns out he was!
You can spot em a mile off, silly tank tops and always with the scuffed bar tape 0 -
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Their times in isolation are incredible... let alone when the three disciplines are combined together.Richmond Racer wrote:The Brownlee bros and Javier Gomez are pretty awesome athletes0 -
feltkuota wrote:RichN95 wrote:I've signed up to do a half-ironman in August. Sensibly though, I'm doing it as a relay with two others so I don't have to bother with the splashing about and jogging.
Then it's fair to say you're doing a bike ride and not a half-ironman. All the best though.
Is there drafting allowed in an Ironman? I imagine there can be a fair distance between them but at that Gomez/Brownlee level it's killing the sport. It should still be a TT element. when they had that one on telly from London a couple of month's ago there were so many wheel suckers not sharing the work it was ridiculous0 -
Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:RichN95 wrote:I've signed up to do a half-ironman in August. Sensibly though, I'm doing it as a relay with two others so I don't have to bother with the splashing about and jogging.
Then it's fair to say you're doing a bike ride and not a half-ironman. All the best though.
Is there drafting allowed in an Ironman? I imagine there can be a fair distance between them but at that Gomez/Brownlee level it's killing the sport. It should still be a TT element. when they had that one on telly from London a couple of month's ago there were so many wheel suckers not sharing the work it was ridiculous
Nope. Drafting is only allowed for pro's in the Olympic distance. Everything else is non drafting.0 -
I see it more akin to taking the pi$$ out of a sibling, I'm sure Triathletes do the same to cyclistsfeltkuota wrote:Paul 8v wrote:Sorry, you did ask...
I did indeed. Was going to get all up in your keyboard about it but honestly speaking some stereotypes will never change...
I'm a bit worried that I'm mellowing... 0 -
Cycling fans and cyclists on the Twatters during the Olympic Mens Tri last year was quite the study for psychologists0
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Paul 8v wrote:
I see it more akin to taking the pi$$ out of a sibling, I'm sure Triathletes do the same to cyclistsfeltkuota wrote:Paul 8v wrote:Sorry, you did ask...
I did indeed. Was going to get all up in your keyboard about it but honestly speaking some stereotypes will never change...
I'm a bit worried that I'm mellowing...
Nah, they're too obsessed in their own OCD culture. Besides cyclists are all juiced up!
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^ooooh....reaches for the list of triantelopes who've tested positive including Virginia Berasategui.... 0
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I've done an Ironman, two in fact.
Sorry, just living up to the stereotype 0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:^ooooh....reaches for the list of triantelopes who've tested positive including Virginia Berasategui....
Jeez, can't we just play nice for a while?0 -
feltkuota wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:^ooooh....reaches for the list of triantelopes who've tested positive including Virginia Berasategui....
Jeez, can't we just play nice for a while?
I was being cheeky - honest!0 -
feltkuota wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:RichN95 wrote:I've signed up to do a half-ironman in August. Sensibly though, I'm doing it as a relay with two others so I don't have to bother with the splashing about and jogging.
Then it's fair to say you're doing a bike ride and not a half-ironman. All the best though.
Is there drafting allowed in an Ironman? I imagine there can be a fair distance between them but at that Gomez/Brownlee level it's killing the sport. It should still be a TT element. when they had that one on telly from London a couple of month's ago there were so many wheel suckers not sharing the work it was ridiculous
Nope. Drafting is only allowed for pro's in the Olympic distance. Everything else is non drafting.
You agree that drafting in triathlon is cr@p though, right?0 -
It should never be necessaryYellow Peril wrote:You agree that drafting in triathlon is cr@p though, right? 0 -
Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:RichN95 wrote:I've signed up to do a half-ironman in August. Sensibly though, I'm doing it as a relay with two others so I don't have to bother with the splashing about and jogging.
Then it's fair to say you're doing a bike ride and not a half-ironman. All the best though.
Is there drafting allowed in an Ironman? I imagine there can be a fair distance between them but at that Gomez/Brownlee level it's killing the sport. It should still be a TT element. when they had that one on telly from London a couple of month's ago there were so many wheel suckers not sharing the work it was ridiculous
Nope. Drafting is only allowed for pro's in the Olympic distance. Everything else is non drafting.
You agree that drafting in triathlon is cr@p though, right?
No arguements from me. With drafting allowed it basically just turns into a foot race.0 -
feltkuota wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:Yellow Peril wrote:feltkuota wrote:RichN95 wrote:I've signed up to do a half-ironman in August. Sensibly though, I'm doing it as a relay with two others so I don't have to bother with the splashing about and jogging.
Then it's fair to say you're doing a bike ride and not a half-ironman. All the best though.
Is there drafting allowed in an Ironman? I imagine there can be a fair distance between them but at that Gomez/Brownlee level it's killing the sport. It should still be a TT element. when they had that one on telly from London a couple of month's ago there were so many wheel suckers not sharing the work it was ridiculous
Nope. Drafting is only allowed for pro's in the Olympic distance. Everything else is non drafting.
You agree that drafting in triathlon is cr@p though, right?
No arguements from me. With drafting allowed it basically just turns into a foot race.
It's sad that this sport is fatally flawed at the highest level. Kudos to the every day Joe's that do the amateur none drafting ones though....hopefully they'll move on to proper TT's and chippers in due course 0 -
ddraver wrote:frenchfighter wrote:I dont see why they cant just chamge it round while riding no hands. And it must take 1 sec to change it round in the transition if they pick it up back to front. I dont think there is any excuse!
Because the second they take it off - 2 min penalty (and you know what Triathletes are like with times. If you offered them a penalty or a punch in the face they'd happily ride the rest of the route with an ice pack)
Second point - same reason. Becasue they re charging around like blue arrised flies. plus, as soon as they remove the bike form the rack they can't take the helmet off.
I am a triathlete (sorry) one of my good friends is top triathlon official in UK. We've discussed this point before and no non pro triathlete would get a penalty if they were still in transition, not on their bike and corrected this error.
If they correct this whilst on the course they again would not get a penalty of they stopped and got off their bike.
Pro triathletes on the other hand would probably get DQ'd for being a fud.0 -
Highest level of the sport is IM though and not the Olympic distances. IM is non drafting and there are some top quality athletes involved. Can't really see what can be done with the pro Olympic events really because spectators want a spectacle and seeing tt's don't do it for the general Jo public. I think that is why they evolved the way they have. The top guys in the Olympic distance would still be at the top of non drafting events and I suspect the gaps would probably be greater. Hope that doesn't sound like I'm arguing with you because I'm not.0
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M Dots Iron Man World Championship at Kona is triathlon equivalent of Tour de France. Everyone wants to get there. All other M dot races are effectively qualifiers and sell out in hours - even though they cost £400 a pop.
Imagine the uproar if Etape du Tour was £400.
However imagine the intense competition if the top 6 in each age group then got to ride the full TdF in th e peleton the following year0 -
The obvious solution for drafting triathlon is put the bike last. It doesn't make it a straight out time trial as the purists may want but it would mean it wasn't just a foot race and the it would be a spectacle whereas as it is the swim and bike are dull as ditchwater. For some reason most triathletes seem to be dead against changing the order though.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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DeVlaeminck wrote:The obvious solution for drafting triathlon is put the bike last. It doesn't make it a straight out time trial as the purists may want but it would mean it wasn't just a foot race and the it would be a spectacle whereas as it is the swim and bike are dull as ditchwater. For some reason most triathletes seem to be dead against changing the order though.
I've heard this mooted before. Have any organisers ever experimented with this idea?0 -
I think the problem is then that all the runners would bitch and moan about it. It suits us because we are cyclists, but actually then all you have is a bike race in silly clothes rather than a foot race wheras the spirit of Triathlon is combining 3 individual sports into 1 race.
The drafting law needs to be reversed is all, that's where the problem is.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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There is no end to the level of awesome in this photo.Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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DeVlaeminck wrote:The obvious solution for drafting triathlon is put the bike last. It doesn't make it a straight out time trial as the purists may want but it would mean it wasn't just a foot race and the it would be a spectacle whereas as it is the swim and bike are dull as ditchwater. For some reason most triathletes seem to be dead against changing the order though.
I cannot see National Federations supporting that, nor a change to the drafting rule, as the nature of the sport was established a decade ago. Get in the lead swim group, sit in on the bike and save your legs for the run. Consequently recruitment and development programmes have focused on swimmer- runners at the expense of swimmer-bikers and biker-runners. Not sure about the current regime but a few years ago you could get on the British Tri Olympic Programme without ever having ridden a bike, because only swim and run were part of the entry test.0
