Newb to club riding wearing World Champs jersey

godders1

SkyBlueAmateur wrote:

Isn't everyone getting a little worked up over nothing?

Welcome to the internet.

mroli

Pokerface wrote:

I see Sarah Storey riding in her WC kit all the time and to my knowledge, it has not caused any problems.

Yeah - having ridden with Sarah when she wears her kit - she looks a) fricking cool and b) well, fricking cool.

oldwelshman

MikeWW wrote:

I am partly with the OP on this. We have a guy that is a masters World Champ in the club( it has taken him 15 years of trying) and we had a women who won a worlds jersey last year as well. We also have a couple of National jerseys that have been won.I
These are massive achievements that the club is very proud of. Whilst anybody would understand that someone new would not appreciate this I think someone would have a quiet word with him after a few weeks when it was less likely to put him off.
I think the same would apply to GB kit
I don't think this has anything to do with being elitist its about a level of respect for the people that have earned the jerseys
Replica kit, KOM jerseys different thing altogether

You must be on about Graham, great ride I supported him all the way and rode many times with him.
I sort of undertand your sentiment and Colin's but I have a slight different view.
For one,with GB kit some riders ride it in UCI events, for instance many did in the recent UCI masters champs in MAnchester. They were not given these jerseys but had to purchase them themselves, some countries award jerseys to masters riders, I chose to wear my sponsors jersey, you can onlywear national or team jerseys.
But I do not worry about anyone wearing the kit as it generates money and publicity for the sport.
As for the world jersey I also try every year to get one and am getting closer and I would love to wear the stripes on my sponsors kit.
However I think that the respect is mainly for guys who actually race or support or fully understand racing. For example no pro riders or even 1 2 3 or 4th cat riders would dream of wearing the kit out of respect (okmaybe not all lol) I would never wear it either as I copmete at the worldsmasters and would get the piss taken out of me if I did, but for Joe Bloggs who may be 20 stone and just taken up cycling and wants to emulate Cav and show support for Cav and the sport I do not think it is quite the same and if he wants to buy and wear such a jersey good luck to him. To those that matter when they see a person wearing such a jersey they will know if it is a club cyclist or world champ. Colin and Graham will no doubt have a team jersey with stripes on the shoulders and wear the full jersey during the competition they won it in.
Not sure if Graham would wear it if he was in an open track event against non masters though.
I dont care if some one turns up in any replica jersey on a club run and if Colin or Graham turned up in theirs I would know the difference and show them respect , the Joe Bloggs in his or a polka dot or sky,just smile knowingly at them and drop them on the first climb and bury them

MikeWW

oldwelshman
Yes -it was Graham I was referring to.
Think you make some very good points- and clearly it is more of a racer thing.

Anonymous

I am trying to have a think about both sides of this arguement, and while I can see where the OP, pokerface and some others "oldwelshman - I will bury them on the hills" etc.

But I think you might be missing the point of why they are wearing the top.

I don't think anyone WEARING (ok sometimes unknowing other halves buy them) these tops don't understand or appreciate (maybe not be able to 100%) the effort gone into earning them, BUT, you put it on, and it does make you feel a bit better on your bike, make you want to pedal that bit harder, and most of all, its only for fun anyway. That's the point.

Its not to jest at anyone or to mock the achievements of others, and to be honest its actually quite nice that someone would go out, buy one, and wear it on a club run, rather than confining it to his 3-lap challenge of richmond park and get some fulfilment out of wearing one. It probably just helps to further widen his smile while riding his bike.

sloppyschleckonds

coriordan wrote:

its only for fun anyway.

No, its not.

gasman_dave

oldwelshman wrote:

MikeWW wrote:

I am partly with the OP on this. We have a guy that is a masters World Champ in the club( it has taken him 15 years of trying) and we had a women who won a worlds jersey last year as well. We also have a couple of National jerseys that have been won.I
These are massive achievements that the club is very proud of. Whilst anybody would understand that someone new would not appreciate this I think someone would have a quiet word with him after a few weeks when it was less likely to put him off.
I think the same would apply to GB kit
I don't think this has anything to do with being elitist its about a level of respect for the people that have earned the jerseys
Replica kit, KOM jerseys different thing altogether

You must be on about Graham, great ride I supported him all the way and rode many times with him.
I sort of undertand your sentiment and Colin's but I have a slight different view.
For one,with GB kit some riders ride it in UCI events, for instance many did in the recent UCI masters champs in MAnchester. They were not given these jerseys but had to purchase them themselves, some countries award jerseys to masters riders, I chose to wear my sponsors jersey, you can onlywear national or team jerseys.
But I do not worry about anyone wearing the kit as it generates money and publicity for the sport.
As for the world jersey I also try every year to get one and am getting closer and I would love to wear the stripes on my sponsors kit.
However I think that the respect is mainly for guys who actually race or support or fully understand racing. For example no pro riders or even 1 2 3 or 4th cat riders would dream of wearing the kit out of respect (okmaybe not all lol) I would never wear it either as I copmete at the worldsmasters and would get the wee-wee taken out of me if I did, but for Joe Bloggs who may be 20 stone and just taken up cycling and wants to emulate Cav and show support for Cav and the sport I do not think it is quite the same and if he wants to buy and wear such a jersey good luck to him. To those that matter when they see a person wearing such a jersey they will know if it is a club cyclist or world champ. Colin and Graham will no doubt have a team jersey with stripes on the shoulders and wear the full jersey during the competition they won it in.
Not sure if Graham would wear it if he was in an open track event against non masters though.
I dont care if some one turns up in any replica jersey on a club run and if Colin or Graham turned up in theirs I would know the difference and show them respect , the Joe Bloggs in his or a polka dot or sky,just smile knowingly at them and drop them on the first climb and bury them

MikeWW - that was a very considered reply and which probably sums up better the club side than a lot before. Oldwelshman's reply was also very interesting, at least from a different viewpoint.

I guess I now have a better understanding of it all. I think I would have a laugh with Roadyforever and Rolf F though. That, after all, is what it is all about for me.

Dave

Mr Dog

Give me strength... how on earth is a persons weight relevant to this issue??? What a load of t0ssers. Get a life. Its a piece of cloth. :evil:

Anonymous

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

coriordan wrote:

its only for fun anyway.

No, its not.

Care to enlighten me on what it is about? If it is pure functionality then why not get a cheap one? It's a bit of fun and puts a smile on the riders face. Surely for a "club" run, it's all about the enjoyment.

oldwelshman

Mr Dog wrote:

Give me strength... how on earth is a persons weight relevant to this issue??? What a load of t0ssers. Get a life. Its a piece of cloth. :evil:

Where is your sense of humour, I only mentioned weight inthe context that a new rider may not be your usual skinny guy and he may just have started out and wants to wear a world jersy showing support which to me is not an issue.
Anyway the ones I have seen replica are htc with the rainbow stripes so it would be clear to most your not MArk Cavandish.

oldwelshman

coriordan wrote:

I am trying to have a think about both sides of this arguement, and while I can see where the OP, pokerface and some others "oldwelshman - I will bury them on the hills" etc.
.

If a guy was on a ride with me wearing the jersey and was a nice bloke and not like the one described by OP then no issue. But if he was a bit of a dick and bragging how good he was and trying to be clever on ride halfwheeling and general silly riding then it is commonplace for him to get a rough ride, whatever kit he may be wearing
Its all part of the fun It does not happen very oftn but occasionaly some guy turns up thinking he is Contador and tries to rip up the ride Its quite funny when it happens as most good riders know each other so it is normally some new guy

Chip \'oyler

oldwelshman wrote:

Mr Dog wrote:

Give me strength... how on earth is a persons weight relevant to this issue??? What a load of t0ssers. Get a life. Its a piece of cloth. :evil:

Where is your sense of humour, I only mentioned weight inthe context that a new rider may not be your usual skinny guy and he may just have started out and wants to wear a world jersy showing support which to me is not an issue.
Anyway the ones I have seen replica are htc with the rainbow stripes so it would be clear to most your not MArk Cavandish.

Don't worry you must have touched a nerve with Mr Dog. He must have just been stretching his World Champs jersey over his massive beer belly when he read your post

StageWinner

Mr Dog wrote:

Its a piece of cloth. :evil:

Wars have been fought over less.

MaxwellBygraves

dilemna wrote:

jim453 wrote:

This is a joke. Isn't it?

Nope.

Think that was a big porky pie :!:

rolf_f

gasman_dave wrote:

I guess I now have a better understanding of it all. I think I would have a laugh with Roadyforever and Rolf F though. That, after all, is what it is all about for me.

Thank you

Mind you, I'd like to think that not being particularly bothered about what people wear when they go cycling wouldn't make me bad company!

Mr Dog

My sense of humour falls short of mockery over someones weight. Its just not funny or relevant.Sad.
Now go give it Berty Big Boll0cks and Louis Armstrong till you ego completely suffocates what little intellect you have left.

pedrojake

MikeWW wrote:

oldwelshman
Yes -it was Graham I was referring to.
Think you make some very good points- and clearly it is more of a racer thing.

And yet were talking about someone new to cycling, possibly on their first club run, on the beginners section .......

Monty Dog

IMO Their are far more heinous affrontages to the sensibilities of cycling:

Black socks with shorts on the road (OK with leggings in winter or MTB) :evil:
Bike shorts over baggy leggings :evil:
Anything in fluorescent, flappy nylon :evil:
LiveSTRONG kit :twisted:

knownothingbozo

removed as it appears someone else had already made the same point

cornerblock

knownothingbozo wrote:

He could just be gay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag

Ahem.....

Cornerblock wrote:

A pub nearby has the WC flag fluttering outside, should I not go in there for a drink as I am not a WC like all the other men in there. :?

dilemna

Update ................................

Twas a bit blowy on the club run today. The two new faces that came last week came again this week. They like the look of the club and are settling in well. As for Mr WC Newb, he didn't show, although I was informed he did have something else on today so couldn't make it. A world championship race perhaps ............. Maybe he will show up next week.

jim453

dilemna wrote:

Update ................................

Twas a bit blowy on the club run today. The two new faces that came last week came again this week. They like the look of the club and are settling in well. As for Mr WC Newb, he didn't show, although I was informed he did have something else on today so couldn't make it. A world championship race perhaps ............. Maybe he will show up next week.

Perhaps he's read this thread and joined a club with fewer w@nkers in it.

mroli

Worried the wife might get a bit of stick from the other Mums at "Buggy Fit"...

dilemna

jim453 wrote:

dilemna wrote:

Update ................................

Twas a bit blowy on the club run today. The two new faces that came last week came again this week. They like the look of the club and are settling in well. As for Mr WC Newb, he didn't show, although I was informed he did have something else on today so couldn't make it. A world championship race perhaps ............. Maybe he will show up next week.

Perhaps he's read this thread and joined a club with fewer w@nkers in it.

Wot like your club ?

thepeopleschamp

If Mark Cavendish is offended by fans wearing a replica of his WC jersey then why hasn't he spoken out about it? Possibly because he doesn't want to alienate fans and sponsors by acting like a d1ck or, more likely, he couldn't give a monkey's.

If he is offended by it then he's gone down in my estimations. This guy is clearly a fan and he's wearing the shirt of the person he follows, so what?

But unless Mark Cavendish is offended by it I don't see why anyone should act like an amateur traffic warden and enforce a rule he hasn't asked them to.

Cycling is meant to be a fun, healthy hobby, no need to get offended on someone else's behalf.

jim453

dilemna wrote:

jim453 wrote:

dilemna wrote:

Update ................................

Twas a bit blowy on the club run today. The two new faces that came last week came again this week. They like the look of the club and are settling in well. As for Mr WC Newb, he didn't show, although I was informed he did have something else on today so couldn't make it. A world championship race perhaps ............. Maybe he will show up next week.

Perhaps he's read this thread and joined a club with fewer w@nkers in it.

Wot like your club ?

Yes.

MikeWW

Jim453
Which club are you in?

rolf_f

dilemna wrote:

As for Mr WC Newb, he didn't show, although I was informed he did have something else on today so couldn't make it. A world championship race perhaps ............. Maybe he will show up next week.

That's the sort of attitude that would put me off a bit tbh - a sarcastic comment just because he might have something else in life to do.

Anyway, maybe MikeWW is right and it is a racer thing. In which case it's simple - the racers can have their own etiquette as long as they don't impose it on non racers. Everyones happy! Hopefully.........

jim453

MikeWW wrote:

Jim453
Which club are you in?

It's called the Two Wheels And Trying club.

It's not as organised as yours. You can join if you like. You can be the honorary president.

I'll send you a badge, you can wear it on your jersey at all times. I'm sure it will suit you.

sloppyschleckonds

jim453 wrote:

MikeWW wrote:

Jim453
Which club are you in?

It's called the Two Wheels And Trying club.

It's not as organised as yours. You can join if you like. You can be the honorary president.

I'll send you a badge, you can wear it on your jersey at all times. I'm sure it will suit you.

Is it Fun?