Newb to club riding wearing World Champs jersey
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total madness
and therefore, i blame Wiggle
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Good points LangerDan and cookie monster (albeit controversial!)!
Certainly a good drugs scandal (which I assume is what you meant) would devalue the jersey far more for me than seeing a few club riders wearing one.
Plus the amateur race parts of BC seem to think that emulating the UCI is a good thing!!! :roll:
Bobby - I can't believe no one has posted that yet!!! Fail on all of us!!!
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Blimey it's all handbags over here isn't it.
You can tell the season is over.
My new arm warmers have WC stripes on them. I think I will cope tho and not give a Toss
What anyone else thinks.0 -
Pokerface wrote:No one should EVER be put off from jointing a club based on something they read on an internet forum (especially such an isolated instance/attitude).
I agree - there are far better reasons to be put off from joining a club, such as the club jersey. I'm sure more new members would happily forsake their WC/pro-team/tour leader jerseys if their own club kit didn't look like it was designed by a four year old using flouro markers.
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Road WC will always wear their stripes whilst training. The sponsors want to see their name on it in photos, etc. Cav will be in that jersey all the time for the next 11 months or so if he's racing or training.
Tony Martin won't be seen in his unless racing I'd say.
Me - I'll wear mine on and off. More so once sponsors are signed up so I can promote them.
My last word on it is your perspective on this debate changes a little once you have a dog in the fight.
Surely you woukd have a better chance of attracting a sponsor if you could say 1000's of other cyclist will be advertising their products at the same time!
If I don't watch time trials there is a very slim chance I am going to see your sponsors name on your jersey.Scott Addict 2011
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Prendas:Pokerface wrote:cougie wrote:My new arm warmers have WC stripes on them. I think I will cope tho and not give a Toss
What anyone else thinks.
Ooooooh. Where did you get them!? I need some
http://www.prendas.co.uk/details.asp?typ=typ&fkid=43&ID=2799
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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LangerDan wrote:I find it more than a little ironic that some of those who have won the right to wear the rainbow stripes over the years have done far, far more damage to the tradition and standing of the World Championship - and, indeed, cycling in general - than anyone who rocked up to a club ride wearing a replica jersey.
What damage has been done and by whom?0 -
Hello. My name's Nhoj, and I wear white socks with black shoes.MatthewBulmer wrote:I'm a secret black sock wearer.
God, what a relief. Now, no jokes about John Travolta.0 -
MikeWW wrote:Rolf F wrote:MikeWW wrote:We are so far apart in views that its perhaps not worth debating too much
I'm guessing you haven't won much have you?
Do you actually race or just lurk about on here?
Are you serious? Really? What on earth has it got to do with anything whether I race or not? Do you know what forum you are posting on? As for lurking, I'd have thought it was fairly obvious I don't lurk.
Do you actually ever even read what people post?
Well you asked what it said about you and I have made a comment.
Any chance of answering the question?
Oh go on then. I didn't bother answering as I thought you were being rhetorical and you'd ignored my question in the previous post (so I am a bit surprised you are so keen for me to answer yours).
So, I have 'won much' - just not in anything related to cycle racing or cycling. I never made a big deal of it and I didn't frame the certificates and hang them on the wall.
I have never raced - it isn't something that at present I have any particular wish to do. One day, maybe I'd like to have a go to see what it is like but I am happy just testing myself against myself for now (aside from a judicious bit of results sorting by time of Sportives I have entered).
I can push myself. I rode 10,000 miles last year. Pros ride a lot more but they don't have a 9 to 5 job to fit it in around. Plenty of people push themselves hard and do it purely for their own satisfaction. I don't begrudge the W/Cs the pleasure of their jerseys but I just don't want to be in a club where people get po-faced about things that are this trivial.
There you go - I've answered your question even though you never answered mine. I claim the moral high ground
PS and please don't go all 'get a life' on us. You can't have it both ways. If you had 'more of a life' than anyone else here presumably we wouldn't have had the benefit of your contribution so far.......Faster than a tent.......0 -
^- I think the implication was that IF you race, your attitude towards wearing jerseys that designate race winners might be different. As you've now stated that you don't and haven't raced, this will back up the other posters supposition.
Unless I missed what he was getting at.0 -
I wish I was a world champion :?0
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i just realised (sorry totally new to this road lark) from the picture of the arm warmers that i have WC socks! White with rainbow rings!
how cool am i!0 -
I am not sure what reaction I'm going to get for this......
I used to have a track jersey that wasn't the WC but very akin to it, same colours different order or one colour different can't remember precisely. I wore it just to taunt the commissaires, "You can't wear that, it is a WC jersey"...."No it isn't " and so on.
Then I wondered why the commissaires picked on me!
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StageWinner wrote:^- I think the implication was that IF you race, your attitude towards wearing jerseys that designate race winners might be different. As you've now stated that you don't and haven't raced, this will back up the other posters supposition.
Unless I missed what he was getting at.
Who knows - he didn't say! It's a fair point but it wouldn't change my opinion if I did race. The jerseys are, IMO, a prize for wearing in races and the discussion is about what you wear outside races.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Tom Dean wrote:LangerDan wrote:I find it more than a little ironic that some of those who have won the right to wear the rainbow stripes over the years have done far, far more damage to the tradition and standing of the World Championship - and, indeed, cycling in general - than anyone who rocked up to a club ride wearing a replica jersey.
What damage has been done and by whom?
If you look at the "Elite Mens" category over the last 20 years, there have been 37 titles between road race and TT (the elite mens TT only started in 1994). Out of those 37 titles
1 rider was subsequently disqualified and had to hand the title back
7 titles went to riders who have been convicted of doping offences
1 went to a rider who, while he never testest positive, admitted doping during court proceedings
1 went to a rider who failed UCI health checks and internal team blood checks and was subsequently fired for the latter
Plus two other title holders are the subject of ongoing doping investigations.
In other words, somewhere between 1-in-3 and 1-in-4 holders of a world elite mens title in the past two decades have doped during their career.
When people speak of the "tradition" of the World Champion , I guess that's not what they had in mind.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Yes Pokerface - the prendas Meraklon ones. Cracking armwarmers and only £8. And the only ones I've had that dont fall down !0
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LangerDan wrote:Tom Dean wrote:LangerDan wrote:I find it more than a little ironic that some of those who have won the right to wear the rainbow stripes over the years have done far, far more damage to the tradition and standing of the World Championship - and, indeed, cycling in general - than anyone who rocked up to a club ride wearing a replica jersey.
What damage has been done and by whom?
If you look at the "Elite Mens" category over the last 20 years, there have been 37 titles between road race and TT (the elite mens TT only started in 1994). Out of those 37 titles
1 rider was subsequently disqualified and had to hand the title back
7 titles went to riders who have been convicted of doping offences
1 went to a rider who, while he never testest positive, admitted doping during court proceedings
1 went to a rider who failed UCI health checks and internal team blood checks and was subsequently fired for the latter
Plus two other title holders are the subject of ongoing doping investigations.
In other words, somewhere between 1-in-3 and 1-in-4 holders of a world elite mens title in the past two decades have doped during their career.
When people speak of the "tradition" of the World Champion , I guess that's not what they had in mind.
Fair enough, but I don't think any of that has damaged the prestige of the world championships. Seems to fit pretty well with the traditions of the sport too!
Maybe the MAMILs wearing the stripes on a Sunday morning should consider the pro-doping message this gives out.0 -
I claim 1st prize to spot WC colours being used (top left for the colour blind) and not only that, it is p ing down outside here
http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2011/10/ ... in-sydney/
they may have spotted rainbow stripes on a bikini...0 -
McBoom wrote:Jonny_Trousers wrote:Anyone know what the stance is on looking at pictures of the current world chamion's girlfriend's breasts on the internet as a mark of respect is?
It's fine, unless she's wearing an unzipped WC jersey
She shouldn't be wearing any sort of WC jersey as she hasn't 'earned' it. 'Hello to Jason Isaacs'0 -
Pokerface wrote:cougie wrote:My new arm warmers have WC stripes on them. I think I will cope tho and not give a Toss
What anyone else thinks.
Ooooooh. Where did you get them!? I need some
You don't GET them, PF, you have to EARN them. The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
I've got a Ritchey stem, with the WC colours on, can I use it or will people think it's the world champion ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
A pub nearby has the WC flag fluttering outside, should I not go in there for a drink as I am not a WC like all the other men in there. :?0
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It rained the other day. I chased after the big arc in the sky shouting "You have to earn those stripes - just appearing after a rainstorm is nothing compared to what others had to do" but people just laughed at me Faster than a tent.......0
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Rolf F wrote:It rained the other day. I chased after the big arc in the sky shouting "You have to earn those stripes - just appearing after a rainstorm is nothing compared to what others had to do" but people just laughed at me
Very good! We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Hi - Is the Jersey still for sale?I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
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http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12807721
[camp voice] Oohh this guys gonna be in *trouble* [/camp voice]We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12807721
[camp voice] Oohh this guys gonna be in *trouble* [/camp voice]
:shock:
My god, something needs to be done about this, something needs to be done, about...him. :twisted:0 -
Colin, just out of interest will you be able to wear your jersey in all BC events or will it be limited to paracycling races?0
