Whats your realistic dream car?

lawman

Gazlar wrote:

lawman wrote:

bluechair84 wrote:

Lawman lawman lawman! You're a man who shares my tastes! (though 12 pages behind )
I'd kill to have the balls to sell my car and throw away my savings on a 240z project.

i very rarely enter this "sensible" part of the forum, hence my exclusion from this topic thus far

tbh it was forza 3 that got me into the 240z,

Yeah yeah, don't lie Law type, you just liked being taken for a ride by Gazlar's black beast, made you like the muscly type

you mean that plastic piece of americanness with white stripes you call your car? Its hardly a muscle car gaz, no matter how much you tell yourself that :P

Team4Luke

AC Cobra 427

bluechair84

lawman wrote:

Gazlar wrote:

lawman wrote:

bluechair84 wrote:

Lawman lawman lawman! You're a man who shares my tastes! (though 12 pages behind )
I'd kill to have the balls to sell my car and throw away my savings on a 240z project.

i very rarely enter this "sensible" part of the forum, hence my exclusion from this topic thus far

tbh it was forza 3 that got me into the 240z,

Yeah yeah, don't lie Law type, you just liked being taken for a ride by Gazlar's black beast, made you like the muscly type

you mean that plastic piece of americanness with white stripes you call your obvious? Its hardly a muscly obvious gaz, no matter how much you tell yourself that :P

Lawman, no point in trying to hide what's going on. I've corrected your post.

IBISMojoHDamon

C63 AMG Coupe or C63 AMG Estate for the bikes.... and when I run out of fuel taking them anywhere...

bluechair84

Hmm... got my Pug 407 for sale at the moment... it's not exactly a dream car but I'm hoping for a Focus estate 1.8 TCDi. Will be great for taking four lads to Alpe d'Huez this summer. Might even make my own WVO fuel if the local chippy will give me their leftovers.

Northwind

Do like my Focus, even if it is a bit shagged. But I'll be chopping mine in for a Mondeo if I can, again not a dream car but so practical- massive in the back, I mean the Focus has a huge boot considering its size but you can just about fit a focus in the boot of a mondeo estate. And you get a bit more car for your budget as well since Foci are a bit more in demand.

Back to dream cars instead of practical ones though... Race day at inners today so there was a stream of gorgeous motorhomes with massive dh rigs strapped to the back coming back up the road. Do want! Though I don't think I'd like driving them much.

spongtastic

With a family to transport and not much cash my dreams and expectations have dropped, hence I bought another one of these last week.

bails87

I've just seen the 2012 Focus ST


I like that a lot. Currently got a boring diesel focus (which is as fast as Gazlars [DIESEL!] 'muscle car' ), and ST would be nice. Fast, but without being overly chavvy like an RS.

And the new ECOboost engines they're doing sound very promising, 250bhp from a 2L petrol engine on the ST. Though, the ST would be out of reach for me for a long, long time, unless it turns out that I cr%p jewels! But they also do smaller ECOboost engines, the 1.6 180HP one has more power than all but the very top (123d M sport) BMW 1 series, and more than their 320i 2 litre engine.

bluechair84

bails87 wrote:

the 1.6 180HP

That is a very surprising figure :shock: My 2.0l petrol 407 gets 134bhp, and I'm pretty sure the 2.0HDI is 134 also... The 1.6 TCDi focus estate I'm swapping to this weekend is a weedy 110bhp (which is better than the 1.6 90bhp that is my second choice)! Estate ecoboost please!

Northwind

That ST looks a bit like it's trying to catch krill.

I'd like to see the power curves on that tbh, Ford sometimes seem to like to go for a peaky tune, gives them a nice big bhp figure but not always so nice to drive. They made a right balls of the old 1.6 petrol Focus IMO, rags along lovely on fast sweeping roads but it's a bugger to reverse up my driveway when it's loaded. My own 1.8 diesel makes about 30 powers less but it has a load more torques so it'll idle up things that the 1.6 needs a club foot and a melting clutch for.

bails87

bluechair84 wrote:

bails87 wrote:

the 1.6 180HP

That is a very surprising figure :shock: My 2.0l petrol 407 gets 134bhp, and I'm pretty sure the 2.0HDI is 134 also... The 1.6 TCDi focus estate I'm swapping to this weekend is a weedy 110bhp (which is better than the 1.6 90bhp that is my second choice)! Estate ecoboost please!

http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Focus/Perfor ... efficiency Under 'Facts & Figures".

There are, confusingly, four different 1.6 petrol engines, with PS outputs from 105 to 182. There also a 1.0 ECOboost with 125PS, more than my 1.8 TDCi!

Edit, just compared the 1.0 ecoboost to the normal (105PS) 1.6. The 1.0 is faster to 60, 20% more powerful, more economical. The 1.0 is free to tax for the first year, and then £85 a year cheaper than the 1.6. Why would you buy the 1.6?!

bluechair84

Torques is what I need really, the focus will be loaded with four FR bikes, four lads and two weeks worth of kit, plus armour, spares and a tool kit, then driven like it's the LeMans to Alpe d'Huez.
That table does have some really impressive stats, though I wouldn't know if the 1.0Ecoboost would be happy with so much weight. Does high power always convert to many torques?

bails87

Northwind wrote:

That ST looks a bit like it's trying to catch krill.

True, but I could live with it

They made a right balls of the old 1.6 petrol Focus IMO, rags along lovely on fast sweeping roads but it's a bugger to reverse up my driveway when it's loaded. My own 1.8 diesel makes about 30 powers less but it has a load more torques so it'll idle up things that the 1.6 needs a club foot and a melting clutch for.

It has a max torque of 200Nm apparently, vs 250Nm or 280Nm depending on the version of the 1.8TDCi.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/ ... 0-ecoboost

spongtastic

bluechair84 wrote:

bails87 wrote:

the 1.6 180HP

That is a very surprising figure :shock: My 2.0l petrol 407 gets 134bhp, and I'm pretty sure the 2.0HDI is 134 also... The 1.6 TCDi focus estate I'm swapping to this weekend is a weedy 110bhp (which is better than the 1.6 90bhp that is my second choice)! Estate ecoboost please!

shouldn't be too amazing. The Berlingo is a 1.6hdi with 110bhp. Having it remapped to get more torks for towing horse trailers. Could have it mapped to 140bhp+ no problem.

Problem is that with increasing tech limits to gain more power means tighter constraints on various parameters that increase costs when things go wrong. The next Mondeo will have the option of a 3 cylinder 1ltr eco engine. FIAT are developing a 4 cylinder twin air that will be 200bhp+ from 1.2ltr. VW already have a 1.2 that's good for 110bhp+

Briggo

It's all about the turbos now these days, thats the only way they can make small engine low emmission cars with a semi decent power output.

Surprised it wasn't done sooner.

Only problem is turbos are generally rather expensive to replace, so if petrol cars are fitted with them its another potential cost in deciding whether to go petrol or diesel.

Before you'd weigh up less fuel economy vs less parts to potentially fix like turbo/dual mass flywheel and so on with a diesel.

Additionally its a false economy if you think having a small engine is always good, it depends on how you drive it. If you like to reach say 70mph without it taking you 2 minutes from stand still to achieve then a smaller engine car will work harder and use more juice than a slightly larger engined motor (generally).

bluechair84

The 1.6 TDCi Focus Estate is mine!! Now, any advice on how I can eek a bit more power from the meagre 90bhp engine? Gran Turismo made upgrading seem so simple... But I might spend a bit of money to eek out some torque and MPG from her if it's not to hard / expensive.

VWsurfbum

Renal is the only way, but it will make a massive difference

TheNorthernTrain

The release of the new golf cabriolet has made me realise just how much I want one of these



Though not it white, black or red perhaps, and modified slightly. Mmmmmmmmmmmm lovely...

Northwind

VWsurfbum wrote:

Renal is the only way, but it will make a massive difference

Car dialysis? :shock:

bluechair84 wrote:

The 1.6 TDCi Focus Estate is mine!! Now, any advice on how I can eek a bit more power from the meagre 90bhp engine? Gran Turismo made upgrading seem so simple... But I might spend a bit of money to eek out some torque and MPG from her if it's not to hard / expensive.

On the TDDI it's possible to simply turn up the fuel pump flow slightly, gives it a little more power right through the revs at a cost of a little fuel economy (and a bigger smokescreen). Not sure if that applies for the C though.

Mapping/chipping might do the business. Might also cause the clutch and DMF to explode faster How old's the car?

ryan_w-2

Hmmm, I think for me it'd have to be a Zonda F Roadster Final Edition, Koenigsegg CCXR or a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport...

In all honesty, I don't think I could physically spend that sort of money on a car, much better spent elsewhere (property etc)...

This was a nice motor, wouldn't say 'dream car', but still nice:



Can't beat the RR for a bit of luxury though. Will always keen one of these in the fleet:

VWsurfbum

Sorry its meant to say re map!

bluechair84

Ryan_W wrote:

Hmmm, I think for me it'd have to be a Zonda F Roadster Final Edition, Koenigsegg CCXR or a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport...

In all honesty, I don't think I could physically spend that sort of money on a car, much better spent elsewhere (property etc)...

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That's why this is the realistic dream car thread, i'm looking at a remapped focus for instance!
The focus is an 05 plate, can you get filters and exhausts that make an improvement?

ryan_w-2

The aforementioned cars are realistic is financial terms, but my father would KILL me, my Mrs would disown me and Green Peace would probably hunt me down!

I like the look of the new Lamborghini Aventador for summer, if I can get hold of one that is.

bluechair84

Ryan_W wrote:

The aforementioned cars are realistic is financial terms, but my father would KILL me, my Mrs would disown me and Green Peace would probably hunt me down!

I like the look of the new Lamborghini Aventador for summer, if I can get hold of one that is.

Whose financial terms? Not mine, and not the intention of this thread. Your defiling it's good intentions. (And for someone whose primary concern is what your father thinks about what you spend your money on, you're lucky to be married at all).

ryan_w-2

Don't get your knickers in a twist. Regardless of wealth, we all still have dream cars!

tom_howard

Ryan does have a point. Those cars may well be realistic for his (seemingly very large) means, plus he has given reasons why they are dreams, (finances not being one of them), seems fair enough to me. Just because they are out of reach for the vast majority doesnt mean they aren't valid.

is there a limit on budget? Maybe the title needs a change? After all, if its a dream car, does that not make it unrealistic as its a dream (whatever the reason), and vice versa?

Briggo

Ryan_W wrote:

Don't get your knickers in a twist. Regardless of wealth, we all still have dream cars!

The Lambo is a poor choice, where the fck would you put your bikes.

Clearly wealth doesn't buy noggins.

ryan_w-2

I've got a G55 and a Range for the bikes... Not that I'm smart enough to ride them.

lawman

sadly enough I saw, and instantly wanted, a... *takes deep breath and expects instant abuse* Hyundai Veloster the other day, looked amazing and looking at the performance figures, not too shabby either!!

The new focus ST is nice, but then the citreon DS4 racing looks even better! citreon are making some of the best looking cars out there atm!

VWsurfbum

lawman wrote:

citreon DS4 racing looks even better! citreon are making some of the worst looking cars out there atm!

ftfy and I agree!