Motorised cycle discussion!

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  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Fabian2 wrote:
    generally i get overtaken by cyclists, and on hills when using motorised assist, a cyclist is still faster.
    It's not about the speed. It's about getting there - not stressed, not sore and uncomfortable not overly exhausted and most important of all, getting there with a smile on my face when other cyclists are sitting down; sweat dripping and looking moments away from medical assistance.
    My rides are more scenic as i'm not concentrating about the physical struggle when getting to a location

    That explains why your other half prefers a vibrator to you. She doesn't need to get stressed, sore and uncomfortable and also doesn't have a sweaty, dripping unfit individual panting like an Asthmatic on top of her, moments away from medical assistance.
    She just prefers the simplicity of the electric powered penîs....
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    The new legislation proposed (but not yet enacted) by one Australian state requires the pedals to be turning when motorised assist power is applied to the drivetrain.

    My bicycle complies with the current law and the new proposed legislation changes
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    Fabian2 wrote:
    The new legislation proposed (but not yet enacted) by one Australian state requires the pedals to be turning when motorised assist power is applied to the drivetrain.

    My bicycle complies with the current law and the new proposed legislation changes

    so why are you being so cagey about the fact that the cranks will be spinning when the bike is being propelled? it sounds perfectly safe to me! :roll:
  • Kaise
    Kaise Posts: 2,498
    are you for f'ing real!?

    even if it complies with a law of a sh!te country that doesn't know its beer from kangaroo p!ss it isn't a good idea!

    Please fark off
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    Re: Kaiser

    I respect everyone on this forum, even those who can be a little overly emotional bordering on caustic at times, particularly when displaying xenophobia towards others with a system or method of going about something that's outside the views of a focused collective.

    That's ok,

    I am not only happy, but interested in all points of view, particularly when someone comes with a unique or novel concept.

    At the end of the day, if taking a caustic approach, one must be careful because eventually acid will eat away an improper container: this can be true of the human condition.

    No ill feeling on my end towards anybody. Everyone has their views and ideally the best outcome is a constructive one.
  • Ryan Jones
    Ryan Jones Posts: 775
    Fabian2 wrote:
    The situation you have described would not be considered by a manufacturer wishing to design and sell motorised assist bicycles ;-)

    Neither would a 44 foot vehicle 'designed' for use primarily in urban environments ! Get a Piaggio Ape, they rock
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    A manufacturer with views to "liability" wouldn't design a motorised assist bicycle kit that allows the cranks to be actively powered ;-)

    My bicycle complies with current and proposed laws regarding motorised assist bicycles
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    Re sheepsteeth

    This puts it best.

    I am sure that there are a lot of Formula 1 fans on here.
    Cast your mind back to the Red Bull controversy of bendable front wings and all the who-haa over alleged cheating and unfair advantage, most notably led by Ferrari in background machinations.

    Adrian Newy was asked if Red Bull was cheating and building an illegal car that defied the FIA testing procedure.

    His response: We don't make an illegal car; we make a car that is "not illegal" ;-)
    He never said anything about making a "legal" car

    That is a very powerful point, regarding your question.
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    so.

    a simple yes or no:

    do the cranks spin, without human input, when the engine is running fast enough to propel the bike forwards?
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    After all, there may be NSW legislators watching this forum
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    Would your description be a safe method of operation?
    I certainly regard safety as a high priority.

    and
    with views to current and proposed laws regarding motorised assist bicycles in Australia and with regards to legality:

    my motorised assist bicycle complies with all laws and has been designed to be "not illegal"
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    you're an idiot.
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    one must be so careful with NSW legislators potentially overlooking this forum
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    we can all have our own opinions
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    Fabian2 wrote:
    one must be so careful with NSW legislators potentially overlooking this forum

    they will only notice that you're an idiot and this will distract them from your 2mph death machine.
  • Ryan Jones
    Ryan Jones Posts: 775
    In this country you can marry your cousin as it's not illegal, does that make it a good idea ?
  • Muttly1981
    Muttly1981 Posts: 815
    Has Fabian2 ever owned a Carrera Fury and struggled to pedal into a headwind?
    What if your dreams and fears existed in the same place? What if to get to heaven, you had to brave hell? What if everything you've ever wanted cost you everything you've ever achieved? Would you still go there?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    so.

    a simple yes or no:

    do the cranks spin, without human input, when the engine is running fast enough to propel the bike forwards?

    no they do not they dont move at all. see his other videos on You tube.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    that was easy enough.
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    but it does appear that the bike is not an assisted bike so much as a motorized bike o fsome sort
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    nicklouse wrote:
    so.

    a simple yes or no:

    do the cranks spin, without human input, when the engine is running fast enough to propel the bike forwards?

    no they do not they dont move at all. see his other videos on You tube.
    Then why is he so cagey about it?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    nicklouse wrote:
    so.

    a simple yes or no:

    do the cranks spin, without human input, when the engine is running fast enough to propel the bike forwards?

    no they do not they dont move at all. see his other videos on You tube.
    Then why is he so cagey about it?

    as it is not an assist.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    it looks like the blue ring you can see around the RH crank interface is a seal for a friction clutch.

    i would imagine the cageyness is relating to the fact that you dont need to pedal it to produce forward motion nd it is therefore not an assisted bike.
  • Kaise
    Kaise Posts: 2,498
    because he is a dickhead!!
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    That was the prototype version, not used on my current bicycle.

    My current version of mechanical operation (though looking similar) uses a system that is "not illegal" and complies with all relevant laws regarding motorised assist bicycles.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    You do realise that "not illegal" IS in fact, the same as "legal", right?
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    so, where are the pictures of your current version?
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    ;-) ;-) ;-)
  • Fabian2
    Fabian2 Posts: 113
    I have no photos of the current version, even though it does look strikingly similar
  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    Fabian2 wrote:
    ;-) ;-) ;-)

    ohhhhh, i get it, you are a liar.

    gotcha.

    im off to bed, i will resume this fascinating investigation tomorrow.