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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
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    The rest, especially Flecha, are just making up the numbers and can be replaced easily enough ... Pretending they have a classics campaign is a complete joke ...

    Their cobbles team is clearly one of the strongest in the peloton, plus they got 3rd at Amstel and 5th at LBL this year.
  • SLX01
    SLX01 Posts: 338
    Turfle wrote:
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    The rest, especially Flecha, are just making up the numbers and can be replaced easily enough ... Pretending they have a classics campaign is a complete joke ...

    Their cobbles team is clearly one of the strongest in the peloton, plus they got 3rd at Amstel and 5th at LBL this year.

    Don't you mean their team is clearly cobblers :lol:
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    The rest, especially Flecha, are just making up the numbers and can be replaced easily enough ... Pretending they have a classics campaign is a complete joke ...

    Oh really?

    Het Nieuwsblad - 2nd (Flecha), 3rd (Hayman)
    K-B-K: 1st (Sutton)
    Dwars DV: 2nd (Thomas)
    Gent-Wevelgem: (Stannard not far from winning it)
    RVV: 10th (Thomas)
    Roubaix: 9th (Flecha), 10th (Hayman)
    Amstel: 3rd (Gerrans)
    LBL: 5th (Uran)

    That's one win, five podiums, 9 top tens. That's pretty decent.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • (rumour of the day) Richie Porte to Sky? Yes, according to a few French sites.
  • So the Sky 11...
    Arvesan retiring confirmed
    Henderson - Greenedge?
    Pauwels - BMC
    Downing
    Hunt
    Knees
    There's a few other Aussies - Sutton, Gerrans, Hayman, Rogers - must be very tempting for them to be Greenedge bound

    Of the others my guesses....

    Augustyn
    Froome
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    So the Sky 11...
    Arvesan retiring confirmed
    Henderson - Greenedge?
    Pauwels - BMC
    Downing
    Hunt
    Knees
    There's a few other Aussies - Sutton, Gerrans, Hayman, Rogers - must be very tempting for them to be Greenedge bound

    Of the others my guesses....

    Augustyn
    Froome

    There's a few oldies still there like Carlstrom, Cioni and Barry who may be seen as surplus to requirements. Henderson's going to Lotto, apparently.

    I'm sure they'll keep Knees, unless he has had a better offer.

    My best guess would be: Arvesen, Henderson, Pauwels, Carlstrom, Barry, Downing, Hunt, Gerrans*, Hayman*, Augustyn, Cioni.

    *They'd prefer to keep these two.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    Nordhaug was due to go I thought? Cant see why they would renew his contract.
    Hunt, Barry, Henderson, Pauwels, Arvesan are all likely to go.

    Hayman, Sutton Gerrans they would like to keep but it does seem possible both could go to Greenedge which would be a shame i think. All 3 I thought were quite happy at Sky.

    Rogers I cant see going as his contract has at least another year. Would be supraised to see him leave as I'm sure he would feel he owns at least 1 performance in a sky jersey!

    Downing leaving would be a massive shame. He hasn't picked up as many wins this year but it does look like the Giro really put him through the ringer. Thought he would be deff worth keeping even to be nothing but a workhorse.

    Froome and Augustyn have both been a little underwhelming. Froome had his massive chance to really shine in California and that would be a likely reason why he would not be getting a new contract. Augustyn has just been hamped with some unlucky crashes and injuries which have hamped him for 2 years. Think his time maybe up also.

    So it it really is 11 that are going I'd say it would be:
    Froome
    Augustyn
    Hunt
    Barry
    Henderson
    Pauwels
    Arvesan
    Gerrans
    Sutton
    Nordhaug
    11th being Downing but resigned due to public peer pressure! (Well II'm hopeful over this :P)
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Any chance Downing would get an offer from another Pro Tour Team?
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Nordhaug isn't going anywhere.

    Likely leavers.
    The unwanted: Augustyn, Carlstrom, Cioni, Downing, Hunt, Pauwels,
    The want to leavers: Henderson
    The retired: Arvesen
    The Green Edgers they'd like to keep: Hayman, Gerrans, Sutton

    Guesswork.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    I have a hunch that they will keep Sutton and turn him into the new Renshaw.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • As well as the who is out, there is also the question of whose names will be added to the Sky bus...

    Henao [confirmed]
    rumours... Cav, Eisel, Porte, Rowe

    space for a few more methinks. Any other rumours I've missed out?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    As well as the who is out, there is also the question of whose names will be added to the Sky bus...

    Henao [confirmed]
    rumours... Cav, Eisel, Porte, Rowe

    space for a few more methinks. Any other rumours I've missed out?

    Sivitsov, Fenn, Puccio, Rasch
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Brian Holm has joined Quick Step as a DS.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Sebastian Langeveld to Greenedge, second Dutch bloke signed. Seem to have kept to there target of focusing on the Classic's.
    Take care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Rabo's turning into a sh!t show.
  • hommelbier
    hommelbier Posts: 1,555
    John Degenkolb joining fellow German sprinter Marcel Kittel at Skil-Shimano. Who gets to lead who out or will they take it in turns?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    hommelbier wrote:
    John Degenkolb joining fellow German sprinter Marcel Kittel at Skil-Shimano. Who gets to lead who out or will they take it in turns?

    They were on the same junior team and Degenkolb was the no.1. But that was in the juniors...
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    The first of the "Sky 11" confirmed:

    Simon Gerrans

    http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/greenedge-gerrans
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    RichN95 wrote:
    The first of the "Sky 11" confirmed:

    Simon Gerrans

    http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/greenedge-gerrans

    That explains why Gerrans finally pulled his finger out and got a result, must have been negotiating his money at the time!
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,460
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Will the curse of Leferve strike again, or does the fact that Martin has no pedigree as a GT rider mean he escapes?
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    andyp wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Will the curse of Leferve strike again, or does the fact that Martin has no pedigree as a GT rider mean he escapes?

    Looking at the season they've had this year I think QS will take anybody who is going to get them some wins. It does seem an odd choice for him though, would have expected him to go to Radioshack, Astana or any other team with a penchant for stage races though.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Anyone else think this is strange?

    Surely he won't be roped into classics racing?

    If not, QS get another guy who will finish top 20 like de Weert.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Pinotti to BMC
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Anyone else think this is strange?

    Surely he won't be roped into classics racing?

    If not, QS get another guy who will finish top 20 like de Weert.

    Money Money Money!
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Anyone else think this is strange?

    Surely he won't be roped into classics racing?

    If not, QS get another guy who will finish top 20 like de Weert.

    Not at all. Both Lefevre's and BCC's (OmegaP) Pro Tour contracts end this year, and QS is pretty much at the bottom of the World Tour ranking. The only other teams with expiring contracts are Garmin and Saxo - no points problems there.

    Of the new recruits Peter Velits has plety of promise, but not too many points this year. Boonen gets lots of publicity, but not much results. Martin has loads of points.

    Must also mean Lefevre doesn't count on getting Gilbert anymore...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    FJS wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tony Martin to Quick.Step

    Anyone else think this is strange?

    Surely he won't be roped into classics racing?

    If not, QS get another guy who will finish top 20 like de Weert.

    Not at all. Both Lefevre's and BCC's (OmegaP) Pro Tour contracts end this year, and QS is pretty much at the bottom of the World Tour ranking. The only other teams with expiring contracts are Garmin and Saxo - no points problems there.

    Of the new recruits Peter Velits has plety of promise, but not too many points this year. Boonen gets lots of publicity, but not much results. Martin has loads of points.

    Must also mean Lefevre doesn't count on getting Gilbert anymore...

    Ah that's a shame.

    I'd love to see Phil in the same team as Tom.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The EBH to Saxo thing has popped up again today.

    He and his agent have denied it so it must be true.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Hopefully Sky are doing everything they can to keep him though.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    The EBH to Saxo thing has popped up again today.

    He and his agent have denied it so it must be true.

    After the season he has had with Sky surely he should think again?