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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,336
    I'd guess it's not having sat on a saddle for a while, combined with the lack of variation of riding position. I think the <ahem> leatheriness of one's undercarriage is one of the first things to go when you have a few days off - certainly is for me, along with (oddly) ability to grip the bars. An equivalent ride on the roads would be likely to have a lot more stopping and starting/getting out of the saddle on climbs and so on (unless you live in the fens.
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    cjcp wrote:
    Very unpleasant, Mr T.

    Saddle height and/or position? A change of saddle?

    Hmmmmmm

    I can do five hours comfortably on that saddle of a weekend, an hour on the turbo however has the giggle band playing up...

    Considering a carbon seat post.....
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Greg T wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    Very unpleasant, Mr T.

    Saddle height and/or position? A change of saddle?

    Hmmmmmm

    I can do five hours comfortably on that saddle of a weekend, an hour on the turbo however has the giggle band playing up...

    Considering a carbon seat post.....

    Do you wear different shorts to your five hour rides?

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    Also, you shouldn't get any road buzz on the turbo, so a new seat post won't necessarily help. (Fwiw, I have an alu Thomson Elite post; it's da bomb.)
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  • Gussio
    Gussio Posts: 2,452
    Greg T wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    Very unpleasant, Mr T.

    Saddle height and/or position? A change of saddle?

    Hmmmmmm

    I can do five hours comfortably on that saddle of a weekend, an hour on the turbo however has the giggle band playing up...

    Considering a carbon seat post.....

    You might be sweating more down *there* on the turbo?
  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    cjcp wrote:
    Do you wear different shorts to your five hour rides?

    Yep

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    Yep

    Also, you shouldn't get any road buzz on the turbo, so a new seat post won't necessarily help. (Fwiw, I have an alu Thomson Elite post; it's da bomb.)

    There is a fair amount of buzz coming through....

    I'm thinking the buzz is the problem and not my anal sweat "problem" - ahem

    So Rollers or seat post or both.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,336
    Greg T wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    Do you wear different shorts to your five hour rides?

    Yep

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    Yep

    Also, you shouldn't get any road buzz on the turbo, so a new seat post won't necessarily help. (Fwiw, I have an alu Thomson Elite post; it's da bomb.)

    There is a fair amount of buzz coming through....

    I'm thinking the buzz is the problem and not my anal sweat "problem" - ahem

    So Rollers or seat post or both.

    Is the wheel slightly out of true or not fitted into the turbo quite right. Like cjcp, I'd have thought that you would have minimal buzz, although I'm not speaking from experience.
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    rjsterry wrote:
    Is the wheel slightly out of true or not fitted into the turbo quite right. Like cjcp, I'd have thought that you would have minimal buzz, although I'm not speaking from experience.

    Hmmmm

    The wheel is true....

    I did notice that the tyre is well off centre on the resisting roller thing - if you stand behind the turbo looking forward it is off to the right hand side - the side that the adjuster clamps onto the skewer on the drive train side.

    Given that the other side doesna't adjust don't see what I can do about that.

    I'll have a fiddle tonight and see if it's not bedded in right. I did have a a concern about teh quick release side not seating correctly but it appears that it's designed to take it.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Yeah, there shouldn't be any buzz. I can understand if there's a numbness, and the problem Gussio mentioned, so perhaps look into a different saddle (e.g. a BG Alias) to use on the turbo (might be an idea to get another seatpost to avoid faffage with the saddle position).
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    The power of google also suggests sit it on carpet (the trainer not my "corridor of uncertainty") - right now it's on the concrete floor of my workshop/garage/dungeon.....
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Ah, that makes a bit more sense. I've got one of these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cycleops-training-mat/ but a foam camping mat would probably do as well

    Edit: a turbo tyre may help a bit too. They're said to not heat up so much so the traction twixt wheel and roller may be more consistent. They're, allegedly, quieter too
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  • cyclopsbiker
    cyclopsbiker Posts: 516
    cjcp wrote:

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    this may seem like a novice question but I'll ask anyway. I've got my road bike set up on the turbo and you've now got me wondering if it is level....what's the best way to check...? just looking at it with my eyes and I think it looks level.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    cyclopsbiker wrote:
    cjcp wrote:

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    this may seem like a novice question but I'll ask anyway. I've got my road bike set up on the turbo and you've now got me wondering if it is level....what's the best way to check...? just looking at it with my eyes and I think it looks level.
    Eyes should be good enough but got an iPhone or an Android phone? You can download spirit-level apps for those...
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  • cyclopsbiker
    cyclopsbiker Posts: 516
    JonGinge wrote:
    Eyes should be good enough but got an iPhone or an Android phone? You can download spirit-level apps for those...

    no such fandangled gadgets owned by me!! I guess I could measure the height of each wheel....off to find a tape measure.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,336
    JonGinge wrote:
    cyclopsbiker wrote:
    cjcp wrote:

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    this may seem like a novice question but I'll ask anyway. I've got my road bike set up on the turbo and you've now got me wondering if it is level....what's the best way to check...? just looking at it with my eyes and I think it looks level.
    Eyes should be good enough but got an iPhone or an Android phone? You can download spirit-level apps for those...

    Or possibly a REAL spirit level <mutter, mutter>.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2011
    HeeHeeHee

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  • cyclopsbiker
    cyclopsbiker Posts: 516
    rjsterry wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    cyclopsbiker wrote:
    cjcp wrote:

    Have you raised the front wheel so the bike is level?

    this may seem like a novice question but I'll ask anyway. I've got my road bike set up on the turbo and you've now got me wondering if it is level....what's the best way to check...? just looking at it with my eyes and I think it looks level.
    Eyes should be good enough but got an iPhone or an Android phone? You can download spirit-level apps for those...

    Or possibly a REAL spirit level <mutter, mutter>.

    I may be a girl but I do own one of those...but it's not long enough and I'm not sure which part of the bike to put it on....serious responses only!!
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Top-tube. The phone app response was a bit tongue in cheek but they do give a digital readout of the angle as well as a pwitty picture of a bubble.

    The tape measurement of height of axles would work perfectly
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    JonGinge wrote:
    Top-tube.


    The tape measurement of height of axles would work perfectly

    If your top tube is parallel to the ground / straight - ahem

    The height of the bottom of the wheel off the ground is easiest
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,336
    JonGinge wrote:
    Top-tube. The phone app response was a bit tongue in cheek but they do give a digital readout of the angle as well as a pwitty picture of a bubble.

    The tape measurement of height of axles would work perfectly
    This assumes your floor is level, although unless you live in a wonky old Victorian house with subsidence issues, it probably will be level enough. The spirit level (real or iPhone) will confirm this, then just check that the height from the floor to the axle is the same front and rear.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Greg T wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    Top-tube.


    The tape measurement of height of axles would work perfectly

    If your top tube is parallel to the ground / straight - ahem

    The height of the bottom of the wheel off the ground is easiest
    That's why I wrote the sentence you didn't quote ;) Easy to compare the digital readings even with compact geometries

    TBH I got a front-wheel riser with the TT so i've not bothered with the above rigmarole
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    JonGinge wrote:
    TBH I got a front-wheel riser with the TT so i've not bothered with the above rigmarole

    I've got a brick.

    BRICK
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    Greg T wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    Top-tube.


    The tape measurement of height of axles would work perfectly

    If your top tube is parallel to the ground / straight - ahem

    The height of the bottom of the wheel off the ground is easiest
    That's why I wrote the sentence you didn't quote ;) Easy to compare the digital readings even with compact geometries

    TBH I got a front-wheel riser with the TT so i've not bothered with the above rigmarole

    Me, too. :wink: S'good, innit?

    No fan, though. Need a fan.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Greg T wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    TBH I got a front-wheel riser with the TT so i've not bothered with the above rigmarole

    I've got a brick.

    BRICK
    masonry nails :D
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    cjcp wrote:
    No fan, though. Need a fan.

    Someone to shout your name and wear replica kit?

    Mrs T will sometimes ask me if I've had a nice ride but is staunchly refusing to camp out at the top of box hill to bang cow bells and write my name on the road.

    My efforts in the replica kit department started off with some promise but since getting married I find "dressing up" mostly involves pajamas, book and frown.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    As I sit here on the train having just finished my first day back in the office since the 16th dec. I'm not sure what's worse the hunger from my usual Jan detox diet or the thought that I have a 60 min turbo session waiting for me at the other end ;-(

    Still at least my total commute today will be 15 miles, bliss!!!

    @GT I knew you like it rough but seriously at your age youve got to take it easy on the old fella.

    PS. +1 on the undocumented (see pre wedding release notes) nighttime attire, are you at the bed socks and snoring stage yet!? (See extensive post wedding bug list).
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  • mkirby
    mkirby Posts: 365
    took bike and turbo over to mates house and did the sufferfest angels work out. Seems like this is going to become a regular thing.

    Team turboing its the future.
  • Zachariah
    Zachariah Posts: 782
    Did a sprint interval session to test the waters before starting the Time-Crunched Cyclist program on Friday. Went pretty well, I did the first interval at an, ahem, optimistic gear but soon found a good balance of 53x17 at about 130-140rpm (I know for many of you that hardly qualifies as a sprint, but hey) which I could keep up for a minute.

    For the stat-obsessed, this was on an Elite Crono Mag Elastogel, resistance level 3, 700x23 Conti Sport tyres.

    Finding it hard to get the setup level (left-to-right), it seems to want to fall to the left when the power is on no matter how much I prop up that side. The rear wheel naturally sits on the right-hand side of the roller even though the ubit is screwed in as far over to the right as the holes allow.
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    My first ever turbo session today :D

    Just getting back on the bike after 8 weeks off due to weather and illness, so just a steady 30 mins in zone 2(ish)

    Tried some one leg pedaling drills in the middle, turns out my technique needs erm, refining? I was bouncing around like a spin drier on MDMA, fun!
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  • mkirby
    mkirby Posts: 365
    did the downward spiral, off to puke now. :oops:
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    I have to confess i've done nowt all week, I just don't feel like it.
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