Sometimes it's hard to be an ... Aussie

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  • Ok, he failed to get his double century by 11 runs, but that lad Cook looked truly superb tonight. He got a well-deserved standing ovation from the spectators. No applause from the Aussie players though - they were just relieved to see the back of him after 36 hours at the crease this series.

    Right, it's 467 for 6, a lead of 187 runs, Bell's got his first ton against Australia and it's after 6am. I better get some sleep.
  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    Am not celebrating yet, if there is one team that can turn a possible 3 1 win into a 2 2 draw in one session its us :evil:

    start celebrating :P
  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 22,152
    Am not celebrating yet, if there is one team that can turn a possible 3 1 win into a 2 2 draw in one session its us :evil:

    start celebrating :P

    8)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Didn't like the booing of Bell when he was out. He used the appeal system and rightly or wrongly the decision was overturned on the available evidence. Even if the decision was wrong it wasn't Bell's fault and the lack of hotspot would suggest that he could justifiably claim he didn't feel he nicked it. I really hope cricket supporters aren't going to go down that route, it is one of the last bastions of sporting behaviour among spectators with the amount of jeering of kickers going on in rugby union at the higher levels now.
  • I didnt like the cheating re "catching" Cook on 99. If anyone should be booed then its him. I blame his Father for not bringing him up properly, an absolute disgrace, he should be ashamed. There is NO WAY that you dont know whether or not you caught the ball or not.
  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    not clapping for fifties, centuries etc etc .... Aussies have been pretty poor this series for behaviour, but then they are just following the example of thier captain Ponting I suppose.

    its not cricket I tells ya !
  • I didnt like the cheating re "catching" Cook on 99. If anyone should be booed then its him. I blame his Father for not bringing him up properly, an absolute disgrace, he should be ashamed. There is NO WAY that you dont know whether or not you caught the ball or not.

    Completely disagree with you not knowing - I'd say this is the only time you DON'T know you've caught it; you can't see as you're not looking as it's just a reflex catch, and you take it fully in your hand like it's carried. I've had several catches over the years where you come forwards/dive and take the catch blind, and on lookers can see it didn't carry, but to you catching it it feels like a genuine take.

    However, I still think the attitude of some of the players this series stinks.
    Has the head wind picked up or the tail wind dropped off???
  • I didnt like the cheating re "catching" Cook on 99. If anyone should be booed then its him. I blame his Father for not bringing him up properly, an absolute disgrace, he should be ashamed. There is NO WAY that you dont know whether or not you caught the ball or not.

    Completely disagree with you not knowing - I'd say this is the only time you DON'T know you've caught it; you can't see as you're not looking as it's just a reflex catch, and you take it fully in your hand like it's carried. I've had several catches over the years where you come forwards/dive and take the catch blind, and on lookers can see it didn't carry, but to you catching it it feels like a genuine take.

    However, I still think the attitude of some of the players this series stinks.

    Have you seen it? The ball hits him on the up, watch his initial reaction. He knew he didn't get it. Then he throws the ball in the air in celebration. The fingers underneath ones are even easier (for you to know, not the Umpires). If your finger hurts because it was between ball and ground, you caught it, if it missed your fingers and hit the palm of your hand and sticks, it bounced. Never having fielded in that position but having fielded pretty much everywhere else, the only time you aren't looking at a cricket ball you are trying to catch is when you think you aren't going to make it & that it might bounce up into your face.
  • Yep - I saw it. IMHO all he'd feel is the ball going into the back of his hand. He's not watching it straight in - it's not got enough time for that to happen, so i'd say he can't tell. Take into account how quickly it all happens and I think it's a fair enough shout by the fielder - i've seen so far worse examples of non carrying catches! Whether the rest of his squad should have gone up is another matter.......
    Has the head wind picked up or the tail wind dropped off???
  • I didnt like the cheating re "catching" Cook on 99. If anyone should be booed then its him. I blame his Father for not bringing him up properly, an absolute disgrace, he should be ashamed. There is NO WAY that you dont know whether or not you caught the ball or not.

    Completely disagree with you not knowing - I'd say this is the only time you DON'T know you've caught it; you can't see as you're not looking as it's just a reflex catch, and you take it fully in your hand like it's carried. I've had several catches over the years where you come forwards/dive and take the catch blind, and on lookers can see it didn't carry, but to you catching it it feels like a genuine take.

    However, I still think the attitude of some of the players this series stinks.

    I've not done a lot of close fielding but I can believe it with that kind of reflex catch, though the desire to prevent a century will certainly affect the fielders' judgement.

    The did-Bell-hit-it-or-not episode was odd. Bell wasn't to know that the visual information was going to back him up for asking for the review. The auditory information (mikes and snickometer) told a different story. So I end up feeling that I heard him out but didn't see him out.

    And I have to go for the ''benefit of the doubt'' law - Cook definitely wasn't caught out, and Bell should almost definitely have been given out but, as the criterion for establishing doubt is visual only, he got the benefit of the doubt because hotspot wasn't spotting. My feeling though is that Aleem Dar's first reaction shows him to be a truly first-rate umpire and actually more accurate than current technology. They should invent a Darometer and that would sort the disputes out.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Agree that Aleem Dar is a great umpire, miles ahead of the others. Hopefully the rain will stay away in that soaking wet lousy island :lol: and we will be able to celebrate an innings defeat. Shame about the blip in the 3rd test but overall a dominant series for England after the first two innings of the first test.
  • Pross wrote:
    Agree that Aleem Dar is a great umpire, miles ahead of the others. Hopefully the rain will stay away in that soaking wet lousy island :lol: and we will be able to celebrate an innings defeat. Shame about the blip in the 3rd test but overall a dominant series for England after the first two innings of the first test.

    Win by an innings? Eh, didnt you hear Clarke say that they were going to put 180 runs on us then bowl us out?
  • Airwave
    Airwave Posts: 483
    That's my bet won with an Aussie cycling buddie.It was for series win not just retaining the Ashes.I shall be gleefully taking her mony off her when i see her next.She went home over xmas so she got to taste the full humiliation on Boxing day.
    Back in November she was oh so confident laughing&joking how we would get our pommie backsides well&truly spanked :lol:
  • Airwave wrote:
    That's my bet won with an Aussie cycling buddie.It was for series win not just retaining the Ashes.I shall be gleefully taking her mony off her when i see her next.She went home over xmas so she got to taste the full humiliation on Boxing day.
    Back in November she was oh so confident laughing&joking how we would get our pommie backsides well&truly spanked :lol:

    I hope this means you now get to spank her backside (photographic evidence of this would be welcomed...) :wink:
  • It can Pee down here for the next week here if it stops in Ausbo & we take the last 3 wickets. :P
  • It can Pee down here for the next week here if it stops in Ausbo & we take the last 3 wickets. :P

    Bloody frustrating, isn't it? The offie's finished but the game isn't.
  • It can Pee down here for the next week here if it stops in Ausbo & we take the last 3 wickets. :P

    Bloody frustrating, isn't it? The offie's finished but the game isn't.

    A bit closer. I still have some new years vodka left. 8)
  • It can Pee down here for the next week here if it stops in Ausbo & we take the last 3 wickets. :P

    Bloody frustrating, isn't it? The offie's finished but the game isn't.

    A bit closer. I still have some new years vodka left. 8)

    Tempting, very tempting, all I need is a sober bike. And where can you find one of those at this time of night?
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    :D:D:D
  • They were never going to last long enough for you to make it over :lol:

    Well done the lads. Proper pasting. Was it 3 innings wins? Cook and Anderson were magic but everyone chipped in. Didn't carry anyone, Collys catches get him off, especially as he has retired.
  • I was completely incapable of riding anyway, I don't think I'd have got much further than the first gutter.

    What an excellent performance all round. I started out before the series thinking that England were clearly a better team in English conditions but that it would be very close in Australia - 2-1 was about the best I dared hope for. In the end, England played far better than that. So I got the prediction and the way they would play completely wrong. Where I was right was in believing that this team was the most resilient I'd ever seen come out of England - that bit proved to be true. When England had to bounce back, they did so with great composure, skill and determination. Hard to believe.
  • I was completely incapable of riding anyway, I don't think I'd have got much further than the first gutter.

    What an excellent performance all round. I started out before the series thinking that England were clearly a better team in English conditions but that it would be very close in Australia - 2-1 was about the best I dared hope for. In the end, England played far better than that. So I got the prediction and the way they would play completely wrong. Where I was right was in believing that this team was the most resilient I'd ever seen come out of England - that bit proved to be true. When England had to bounce back, they did so with great composure, skill and determination. Hard to believe.

    You think you got it wrong? I said that Cook wasnt good enough for an Ashes tour as his technique is not up to scratch and that it wouldnt survive a proper examination. :oops:

    Sir Ian said it would be 3/1 to us and I suggested that he might want to stop being so silly.
  • I was completely incapable of riding anyway, I don't think I'd have got much further than the first gutter.

    What an excellent performance all round. I started out before the series thinking that England were clearly a better team in English conditions but that it would be very close in Australia - 2-1 was about the best I dared hope for. In the end, England played far better than that. So I got the prediction and the way they would play completely wrong. Where I was right was in believing that this team was the most resilient I'd ever seen come out of England - that bit proved to be true. When England had to bounce back, they did so with great composure, skill and determination. Hard to believe.

    You think you got it wrong? I said that Cook wasnt good enough for an Ashes tour as his technique is not up to scratch and that it wouldnt survive a proper examination. :oops:

    Sir Ian said it would be 3/1 to us and I suggested that he might want to stop being so silly.

    Still, humble pie has never ever tasted so good before, has it? :lol:
  • I was completely incapable of riding anyway, I don't think I'd have got much further than the first gutter.

    What an excellent performance all round. I started out before the series thinking that England were clearly a better team in English conditions but that it would be very close in Australia - 2-1 was about the best I dared hope for. In the end, England played far better than that. So I got the prediction and the way they would play completely wrong. Where I was right was in believing that this team was the most resilient I'd ever seen come out of England - that bit proved to be true. When England had to bounce back, they did so with great composure, skill and determination. Hard to believe.

    You think you got it wrong? I said that Cook wasnt good enough for an Ashes tour as his technique is not up to scratch and that it wouldnt survive a proper examination. :oops:

    Sir Ian said it would be 3/1 to us and I suggested that he might want to stop being so silly.

    Still, humble pie has never ever tasted so good before, has it? :lol:

    I will happily have seconds 8)
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    edited January 2011
    Keep on bashing the Aussies here if you haven't had enough :wink:
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  • Q. What do you call an Aussie with a bottle of champagne?
    A. A waiter

    Q. What do you call an Aussie who can hold a catch?
    A. A fisherman

    Q. Why can no one drink wine in Australia at the moment?
    A. They don't have any openers

    Q. What's the difference between Cinderella and the Aussies?
    A. Cinderella knew when to leave the ball

    Q. What do you call a world class Australian cricketer?
    A. Retired

    Ring Ring......
    “Hello - Australian team dressing room”
    “Hello mate...Can I speak to Ricky Ponting please?”
    “Sorry mate - he's just gone out to bat...”
    “It's OK - I'll hold....”

    Q. What is the height of optimism?
    A. An Australian batsman putting on sunscreen.

    Q. What would Jimmy Anderson be if he was Australian?
    A. An all rounder.

    Q. What is the main function of the Australian coach?
    A. To transport the team from the hotel to the ground.

    Q. Why don't Australian fielders need pre tour travel injections?
    A. Because they never catch anything.

    Q. What's the Australian version of LBW?
    A. Lost, Beaten and Walloped.

    Q. What do you call an Australian with 100 runs against his name?
    A. A bowler..

    Q. What's the most proficient form of footwork displayed by Ponting?
    A. The walk back to the pavilion.

    Q. Who has the easiest job in the Australian squad?
    A. The guy who removes the red ball marks from the bats.

    Q. What do Australian batsmen and drug addicts have in common?
    A. Both spend most of their time wondering where their next score will come
    from.

    Q. Why are Australian cricketers cleverer than Houdini?
    A. Because they can get out without even trying.

    Q. What does Steve Smith put in his hands to make sure the next ball almost
    always takes a wicket?
    A. A bat

    A bloke walks into a brothel and says: "I'm a bit kinky, how much for total humiliation?"

    The madam replies $60.

    "Wow, what do I get for that?" he says.

    She says: "A baggy green cap and an Australia cricket shirt”.
  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    Yoink - I'll take some of those for work...

    Particularly "...It's ok, I'll hold."
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  • Ha ha ha.

    I was there, and I will tell you how Aussies coped.

    1. Switch off telly
    2. Hats off to England
    3. Go to beach.
    4. remember that the Barmy Army no longer chants
    "three dollars to the pound" as its now 1.53 dollars to the pound.

    That said, very well done to England. The Aussies know they were
    well beaten by a better team. They want heads to roll within the
    cricketing hierarchy. It will take 5 years, but they will be back.
    Look at how well Pakistan has done of late, despite all their problems.