Speed over 30 miles?

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  • Gav888
    Gav888 Posts: 946
    Well ive just read through the last 6 pages and I dont mind admiting im a pussy, slow as sh*t, I can only average 15mph over 30 miles :shock:

    Mind you, you only get out what you put in, and my 'in' has been cr*p the last couple of years with random works, missed workouts, time off, lazy, alot of illness and minimal training hours per week....

    So 15mph is actually really good considering :D
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  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    Bit late to the party on this but hey ho. Most of my solo rides tend to be fairly hilly, i.e. on my usual 50 mile route there are 4 shortish climbs of 10-14%, and if I'm pushing it with a headwind and I'm also lucky with traffic lights I can average about 19 or so.

    Can pretty much get golds in all my 100+ sportives and not bad at climbing too.

    Quite pleased with this recent ride up Alp Duez against the clock, especially as we'd done a fair amount of bigger climbs in the days leading up to it.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/38455537
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,464
    Been looking back at my solo rides logged since June, all measured door to door and they are nearly all between 14 and 15mph. Distances vary from 30 to 60 miles and generally quite hilly (3,000 to 4,500 feet of climbing). I feel really slow when I ride on my own and have struggled to hang on in the club runs I've done, usually getting dropped on the hills and going my own pace from around 30 to 40 miles. My commutes are much better but are about as flat as you can get (480 feet in 18.4 miles) average tends to be 16 - 17mph with no adjustment for stops which probably add about 10 minutes to my trip so moving average would be more like 18 - 19mph. I'm in a similar position to the OP as I am returning to road cycling after a long break having previously raced. My TT times since I started riding again have been in the 27 minute range on a reasonably flat dual carriageway course on a standard bike. I used to be able to average around the 20mph mark on a flat 25 mile circuit so have a long way to go!! Can't imagine ever averaging much higher than that over 30 to 40 miles though.
  • Richa1181
    Richa1181 Posts: 177
    My best solo ride over 30miles this year was 19.8mph. Suprisingly it was done after a 12hr night shift, must have been in a big hurry to get to bed! I just wish I could do it after a full nights sleep and a big breakfast!

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/44569739

    Would be good to get more people with Garmin data on here, much better to be able to look at something factual rather than people who think they get everywhere at 25mph! But maybe that's me being a numbers geek
  • jonmack
    jonmack Posts: 522
    Mine's about 30k, there or thereabouts.

    Richa1181, there's a link to my Garmin Connect in my sig.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Blimey Jonmack I had a look at your garmin data, that Downward spiral looks hard! You seen to do nothing but sufferfests, which is impressive. My HR for Angles is much flatter than yours but i do feel like it gets harder to change my pace these days (old age).
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367
  • Gav888
    Gav888 Posts: 946
    Is that all lol I would love that average!

    How many training hours per week is required to ave 20mph over 30miles?
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Nice one freehub.
    Just a couple a couple of points, the OP asked what was a reasonable average for a nearly 40 yo male and I'm pretty sure that's not you, also you pick out your fastest rides and clearly do no warm up or cool down which always knocks a chunk of my average and isn't really a good policy to advocate to other, probably less experienced, riders. You appear to arrive at your front door at 40kph lol. Hope your brakes are good!
    For all that you're clearly going quite well so I wish you a good 2011 (but calm down :wink: )
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  • Gav888
    Gav888 Posts: 946
    inseine wrote:
    Nice one freehub.
    Just a couple a couple of points, the OP asked what was a reasonable average for a nearly 40 yo male and I'm pretty sure that's not you, also you pick out your fastest rides and clearly do no warm up or cool down which always knocks a chunk of my average and isn't really a good policy to advocate to other, probably less experienced, riders. You appear to arrive at your front door at 40kph lol. Hope your brakes are good!
    For all that you're clearly going quite well so I wish you a good 2011 (but calm down :wink: )

    Perhaps he is starting his Garmin after he has done a warmup and stopping it when he cools down to exclude the warm up / cool down times?
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Yeah that's fine. Worth a mention though, if we,re comparing like with like .
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    inseine wrote:
    Nice one freehub.
    Just a couple a couple of points, the OP asked what was a reasonable average for a nearly 40 yo male and I'm pretty sure that's not you, also you pick out your fastest rides and clearly do no warm up or cool down which always knocks a chunk of my average and isn't really a good policy to advocate to other, probably less experienced, riders. You appear to arrive at your front door at 40kph lol. Hope your brakes are good!
    For all that you're clearly going quite well so I wish you a good 2011 (but calm down :wink: )

    No that last lap is just an error, when I pressed the lap (I'm trigger happy on that button). I never do warm up cause I have never felt it does anything for me, and warm down, well the same, I usually arrive at my front door quite quick and get in have some food and that does me right.

    You can't say what's the right average for a 40yo male tho, and correct, I'm 21 :p, some 40yr olds are really quick, some slow I've had my arse kicked by older people many times.

    At the moment I'm not doing much cycle and eating christmas junk still, well and good dinners, I'm only doing 3 rides a week, usually 30, 50, 60, I did a 105 mile ride when I took it steady and decided I could ride none stop till my light ran out.
  • Gav888
    Gav888 Posts: 946
    inseine wrote:
    Yeah that's fine. Worth a mention though, if we,re comparing like with like .

    I take it back then :D
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    freehub wrote:
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367

    Do you think this helps the OP or do you just want people to see how fast you can ride on a completely flat route and have your ego massaged?
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  • fastercyclist
    fastercyclist Posts: 396
    For what it's worth OP today I did 37 miles (60km) at 15mph. This is coming back from ~6 months without any real cycling (first week back on the bike actually). Before that I was doing 60 miles at 20mph in Devon for a fast ride / 18mph for a slower one. I had a lot of time to train then however. But you can see how much slower I'm riding atm. So if you find yourself going slow don't be disheartened, there is a whole world of possibilities before you with the correct training. :)

    p.s. If you care a lot about average speeds, improving climbing can improve your average speed a lot more then going faster on the flats. As others have also said, getting the drops make a difference. Don't see why anyone would bother doing that in training, most people don't even do that in a race! :lol: I'm 22 but I've met faster cyclists who are in your age group ~40.
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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    amaferanga wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367

    Do you think this helps the OP or do you just want people to see how fast you can ride on a completely flat route and have your ego massaged?

    So you're only allowed to post if you're sh!t?

    This could be the BikeRadar slogan. Yes, I'm aware that it includes me.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    P_Tucker wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367

    Do you think this helps the OP or do you just want people to see how fast you can ride on a completely flat route and have your ego massaged?

    So you're only allowed to post if you're sh!t?

    This could be the BikeRadar slogan. Yes, I'm aware that it includes me.

    No, but frehub only ever posts his quickest rides. Its almost as if he constantly needs to be told he's a decent cyclist....
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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    amaferanga wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367

    Do you think this helps the OP or do you just want people to see how fast you can ride on a completely flat route and have your ego massaged?

    So you're only allowed to post if you're sh!t?

    This could be the BikeRadar slogan. Yes, I'm aware that it includes me.

    No, but frehub only ever posts his quickest rides. Its almost as if he constantly needs to be told he's a decent cyclist....

    Try not to let it get to you. If it helps, I did 21mph for 70 miles today.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    amaferanga wrote:
    P_Tucker wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    At the moment my 30 mile distance is only around 20-21mph, must be the winter, well I damn well hope it is.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61028367

    Do you think this helps the OP or do you just want people to see how fast you can ride on a completely flat route and have your ego massaged?

    So you're only allowed to post if you're sh!t?

    This could be the BikeRadar slogan. Yes, I'm aware that it includes me.

    No, but frehub only ever posts his quickest rides. Its almost as if he constantly needs to be told he's a decent cyclist....

    Oh go fuck off.

    As irrelivant as it is to the op, I must counter your argument by saying you're wrong I don't just provide the fastest rides.


    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/36709378 14.4
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/6259155 14.8

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/26359556 15.4, must have been too slow for you that, bet you got home and did another 50.


    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/19633583 15.8
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/45695586 19.2
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/44961405 21.4
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/13140580 19.1
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/61434270 18.8
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/1238734 18.6
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/2462836 18.0
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/29183807 17.3
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/62092820 19.3

    If they're still too fast for you then search yourself I don't have time to trawl through 40 pages of Garmin Connect, I sorted by distance and avg speed and found the ones in the first 10 or 20 pages.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,440
    We got onto the willy-waving accusation by page 2 of this thread. It does seem that if anyone posts good/reasonable averages that either the poster's honesty is questioned, and/or they are told they are willy waving.

    So, risking both - recent rides have averaged 19mph on average Devon routes (down about 1mph on my late summer speeds) of 30-40miles. I'm 46. No Garmin logs, but speeds are door-to-door using properly callibrated Cateye computer (checked against clock and detailed mapping software for distances.)

    The thing is, if the OP wants to know what a 'reasonable' average speed is for a 40 y.o. male, it's helpful to have a range of responses in order to work out what's a 'reasonable average'. I know that there have been several comments about average speeds being irrelevant, as you're not comparing like with like, but I can't see how quoting average speeds is any different from quoting times for 10- or 25-mile road TTs - it's measuring the same thing, but just quoting the time rather than the speed, isn't it?
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  • Airwave
    Airwave Posts: 483
    I think it would be a good point for the OP if you relate your ave speed to the amount of training you were doing at the time.Personally i did over 13k miles last year,so i was at a good level all summer.Which ment although not all that fast at TTs i could hold a good% of my TT pace for several hours before getting tired.
    This time of year i'm just happy to hold 20mph for an hour or so.Some long hilly rides have been down to 15mph&that feeling of riding through treacle.
    Just started training around my regular 19mile loop this week& where as in the summer 50-51mins is a decent time this week it's been 55-58mins.But at least the only way is up now.
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  • darren H
    darren H Posts: 122
    Just shows we are all different.
    My last 60 mile ride averaged just under 20 mph but I train in the peak district, lots of climbs but you can soon make am mile o two up on the descents.

    That's my winter steel Mercian mind. My speed goes up a tad on my lighter summer bike .

    Anyone that posts an average of over 22 mph for an undulating route is a bloody very good rider.

    One of the main things is enjoy it. Killing yourself is okay once in a while but t,here's more to riding than worrying about your average speed
  • dulldave
    dulldave Posts: 949
    sampras38 wrote:
    Bit late to the party on this but hey ho. Most of my solo rides tend to be fairly hilly, i.e. on my usual 50 mile route there are 4 shortish climbs of 10-14%, and if I'm pushing it with a headwind and I'm also lucky with traffic lights I can average about 19 or so.

    Can pretty much get golds in all my 100+ sportives and not bad at climbing too.

    Quite pleased with this recent ride up Alp Duez against the clock, especially as we'd done a fair amount of bigger climbs in the days leading up to it.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/38455537

    That's quite an impressive time given it's part of a longer ride. It's 1km short of the total climb as far as I understand it. I'm also not sure how this helps the OP other than to clarify that the post has descended into full-on willy waving. :D

    Personally I reckon the OP is showing that he/she could get something out of time trialling, racing or sportive riding. It's the curiosity of wanting to measure our ability that often drives us toward some form of competition. Even if we're just competing with ourselves.

    I would also suggest that if you're honest with yourself and you posted up on here because you were quite proud of the average speeds you've been doing and wanted others to see it then get yourself into a TT if you haven't already.

    I know a lot of cyclists who say "I'm just not that competitive" and I laugh because I know they are really competitive. What they often mean is "I don't think I'm good enough to win and I don't like taking part in competitions I'm not going to win" which for a time trial is pretty irrelevant. I said the same thing myself when someone suggested I should train to compete.
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  • chalford
    chalford Posts: 47
    some of the av speeds people do in training on this thread,and there tt times .DO not make sense., am afaid a pinch of salt is needed with this thread
  • sturmey
    sturmey Posts: 964
    some of the av speeds people do in training on this thread,and there tt times .DO not make sense., am afaid a pinch of salt is needed with this thread

    Hey, how do you know these people don't go balls out when training, then take it easier when racing?
    Now, that would explain things,wouldn't it?. :lol:
  • chalford
    chalford Posts: 47
    the time for racing is when your no is pinned on
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    chalford wrote:
    the time for racing is when your no is pinned on

    So you think only push hard when racing? That's not how I ride, I'd fine that boring as hell to be fair, I like to push hard, I like to kill myself sometimes, the reason my TT times are crap is because I've not specifically trained for TT's, I'm hoping mine will improve as when I'm in Manchester I'm doing more TT focused training now.

    My best 10 mile tt ride is around 25:15, yet on one ride I went out with another guy, we was supposed to be taking it turns, but he felt best to stay behind me, anyway, we ended up doing I think a 35 miles route at 22.5mph me on the front the whole way, a 10 mile section of that loop I did quicker than my official 10 mile PB. If I'm honest, I've never got to a TT feeling strong, dunno why.

    People train in different ways, and if I was to train like some people I'd end up giving cycling up. At least with what I do I can back it up as yer can't tamper with garmin logs as far as I know, well maybe if you're proper clued up on the code maybe.
    darren H wrote:
    Just shows we are all different.
    My last 60 mile ride averaged just under 20 mph but I train in the peak district, lots of climbs but you can soon make am mile o two up on the descents.

    That's my winter steel Mercian mind. My speed goes up a tad on my lighter summer bike .

    Anyone that posts an average of over 22 mph for an undulating route is a bloody very good rider.

    One of the main things is enjoy it. Killing yourself is okay once in a while but t,here's more to riding than worrying about your average speed

    That's impressive that, my best peak district ride was 19.1mph avg with 2500ft of ascent or around that, went into the brickworks dunno if you're from this side of the peaks like, if I do a 70ish mile ride into the peaks with between 3,000 and 5,000ft ascent my average is around 17.

    At the moment on rides I might push, but I'm out to enjoy them more, I just set off and ride, and usually clock up around 60-100 miles and enjoy them, I might push abit but not at the moment, and I get to hills and get up them but don't push as hard, might be a good sign like as I'm not pushing as hard, pacing my self different too and I'm getting up em no slower.
  • chalford
    chalford Posts: 47
    read the post didnt say push hard, said the time to race is when your no is pinned on !.if your av those speeds in training and your pb is a 25,your doing something wrong
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    chalford wrote:
    read the post didnt say push hard, said the time to race is when your no is pinned on !.if your av those speeds in training and your pb is a 25,your doing something wrong

    I avg whatever my garmin logs show.
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    freehub wrote:
    chalford wrote:
    read the post didnt say push hard, said the time to race is when your no is pinned on !.if your av those speeds in training and your pb is a 25,your doing something wrong

    I avg whatever my garmin logs show.

    I don't think he's disputing that.

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