Speed over 30 miles?
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Pokerface wrote:I admit I'm not the fastest, but claims of over 20MPH for over 20 mile SOLO rides make me want to :roll:
If they can back it up, it shouldn't be a problem, though I know doing 30 miles at 20+ is quite a hard ride.
I did 2 tempo rides with a 20 mph average this week with knobbly CX tyres on, so it certainly is possible if you are pushing it. Just depends on how good the rider is I suppose.
I must admit if you can do a 30 miles ride at 23mph, then you should be way quicker than 24 mph on a 10m TT
Got to agree with jibberjim though, average speed doesn't mean a great deal, and you shouldn't really base a ride on average speed.0 -
SBezza wrote:Pokerface wrote:I admit I'm not the fastest, but claims of over 20MPH for over 20 mile SOLO rides make me want to :roll:
If they can back it up, it shouldn't be a problem, though I know doing 30 miles at 20+ is quite a hard ride.
I did 2 tempo rides with a 20 mph average this week with knobbly CX tyres on, so it certainly is possible if you are pushing it. Just depends on how good the rider is I suppose.
I must admit if you can do a 30 miles ride at 23mph, then you should be way quicker than 24 mph on a 10m TT
Got to agree with jibberjim though, average speed doesn't mean a great deal, and you shouldn't really base a ride on average speed.
Says the man who came 10th in the national 100... but for Joe average?0 -
I'm positive I can knock out a 30 mile ride at 20MPH+ - just have to pick the right course. I stop for lights and such - but the clock keeps ticking so the avg speed drops significantly.
And I'm not saying other's can't do it - but it IS a hard ride and you have to be quite focussed on the task at hand. But to say you're knocking out a 60 mile ride at 23MPH avg on your own is BS. Or post the files to prove it please.0 -
chrisw12 wrote:
Says the man who came 10th in the national 100... but for Joe average?
And how do we know the OP isn't of the same calibre. I was just saying it is quite possible, though it will be a tough ride.
Pokerface, I agree 60 miles at 23mph average is a bit hard to believe unless it is on a TT bike on a relatively flat course, and again a very tough ride.0 -
Sorry - that should be a 30 mile loop at 23MPH (solo on a road bike). Or even 50 miles at 21.4MPH.0
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Todays ride was a level 2 effort, Average heart rate was 142bpm. (clock stops when I do) My average speed for the 32 miles was exactly 16mph... so riding time was 2hrs 3 mins...give or take a few seconds
ohh Im male and 42 years old..
(max heart rate is 195)
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Who said they're knocking out 23mph for 60 miles?
This year my best rides have been, some of these rides depending on the conditions I could be doing 5mph less.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/44961405
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/8360405
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/9110344
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/35467916
Not 20, but I still rekon a respectable speed over the distance - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/45695586
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/39915689
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/43298647
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/13471164
Not that amazing but I think I'll be a couple mph faster next year judging by my recent form.
And yesterday, not even that hilly, well was in parts, only 17mph avg - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/557178680 -
I belong to a local triathlon club with some seriously top level athletes (not me!). The club organises training cycling runs throughout the year broken down into 4 categories as below.
A. Experienced/racing riders 18mph+ 55+miles
B. Regular riders 18mph+ 50+miles
C. Steady ride 15/16mph 40 to 50 miles
D. Intro Group New riders 12/13mph 35 to 45 miles
They do average these speeds:
Does this help?0 -
SBezza wrote:
And how do we know the OP isn't of the same calibre. I was just saying it is quite possible, though it will be a tough ride.
Come on SBezza..
the guy posts on a forum asking with a novice like query and then posts great stats. It can happen but in the main we know it's leaning towards the unlikely side.
I get that he used to race and comes from MTB but these kind of basic questions would be par for the course no?0 -
jibberjim wrote:if you want to see how you compare to others, do some time trials.
This.0 -
So freehub, thanks for posting ALL your Garmin logged rides. Funny you didn't link to your rides at 15mph that I saw there! Very selective that really does shout willy waving 0
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chrisw12 wrote:Why do people bs about their average speed in training but not back it up with a real average speed during races?
and this.0 -
inseine wrote:So freehub, thanks for posting ALL your Garmin logged rides. Funny you didn't link to your rides at 15mph that I saw there! Very selective that really does shout willy waving
Also fast rides are club runs (is this solo then?) or extremely flat rides.
(Still a better av. speed than my solo efforts :oops: )0 -
Just for the record I live in Hampshire where there is not a hill in sight
All the runs round here are completely and utterly flat and many can be undertaken without seeing a trafgic light (New Forest)...... I was only after a rough gauge - will I ever race, no as I ride for the sheer enjoyment of it.
You never (or very rarely) ride an MTB with a speed sensor on it, it would just get trashed so I have no idea what sorts of speeds we do offroad. People are starting to use Garmins and the such but they are expensive and more likely to get trashed offroad than on.....0 -
OK - props to WIll for doing a 180 mile ride at 19mph avg. I couldn't do a 180 miles without putting a bullet in my brain from the boredom, let alone at 19mph - and a big climb in there too.0
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freehub wrote:stagger wrote:freehub wrote:stagger wrote:mrwibble wrote:I'm 42 and recently did 30 miles at 20 mph average on my onw. I was broken after though...
is it a fast bike, the onw?
jeez, round the peak district this time of year 14-15mph is hard enough , all you boys doing 20mph obviously live somewhere not too hilly...!
Where do you live? Round the Manchester area and round Macclesfield is pretty bumpy, I can average 19-20mph on a 45 miles ride with around 2500ft of ascent.
well done. hilly -ish, rather than really hilly?
or willy-ish?
tbh the OP's post should just really have been answered as 'average speeds are a very poor comparator, there's just too many variables'
Hilly and mixed.chrisw12 wrote:Funny how the people who race to a decent standard on this forum realise that a 20mph+ ave is pretty unbelievable.
Why do people bs about their average speed in training but not back it up with a real average speed during races?
Not aimed at anyone in particular but how often do we see a new rider come on here and give a wildly inflated av speed figure. There was one thread in particular where one guy said he was doing 20's on a slicked up mtb then another one where a guy claimed 20's on his hour commute in hilly Scotland, it just aint happening.
Some people can back stuff up with Garmin logs, I'd say the average racer in Cat 3/4 must be able to keep up 20mph average, I can average 20 on loads of rides yet I'm a pos when it comes to racing and my best 10 mile TT is a pretty lame 25:15.
Maybe you should focus more on your rides.
I have read many times how many very long rides you do and how fast they are. The trouble is your work looks to be one pace.
Most guys who race and do TT do recovery rides, short fast work, steady rides etc and tailor their training towards racing.
I have couple of good triathlete mates and they are the same. WE go on long winter rides and they trash round 19mph when we prefer about 17mph steady, then when hammer goes down for few miles they get dropped !!
In reply to the op, av speed can be anything from 10mph to 40mph !! It obviously depened on many parameters so theres no typical answer.
For racing my averages for year were between 23mph and 27mph road, on track for bunch racing all 30mph+.
For my solo rides, they vary from 15mph av to 19mph and some times when doing hard training may go above but tend to do intervals within a ride followed by recovery so the average speed is meaningless.0 -
A tip to the OP (and this works well if you have a good computer or Garmin) is to time a 'lap' after your warm up and stop it for your cool down. Straight away you'll gain an mph or two and you wont to tempted to cut short your warm up just up your average. Plus many people ride out tio quieter roads so you wont be charging through traffic for the same reasons.
Create a few circuits and try to beat your time each time.
This is just fun and not structured training I know!0 -
inseine wrote:So freehub, thanks for posting ALL your Garmin logged rides. Funny you didn't link to your rides at 15mph that I saw there! Very selective that really does shout willy waving
Not selective at all, just shows I can read English.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/43734808
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/18883135
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/26359556
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/2462861Garz wrote:inseine wrote:So freehub, thanks for posting ALL your Garmin logged rides. Funny you didn't link to your rides at 15mph that I saw there! Very selective that really does shout willy waving
Also fast rides are club runs (is this solo then?) or extremely flat rides.
(Still a better av. speed than my solo efforts :oops: )
There was 2 club runs in that, but it's not weather it's a club run that counts, it's the effort, and when I'm sat on the front most of the time or off the front, then I hardly think I'm using other peoples effort.0 -
I'm sat on the front most of the time or off the front
Bet you're popular0 -
Viewed the first two Garmin links before my computer went wild and they were are a much more resonable pace of 15 and 16mph, though a bit at odds with your earlier claims.
I don't see any internet bragging rights with average speeds so I'm not knocking your latest posting, just lets not put newer riders off by pretending we all blast round at 20+ all the time.
Whats the reference to reading English? Missed that one.0 -
inseine wrote:Viewed the first two Garmin links before my computer went wild and they were are a much more resonable pace of 15 and 16mph, though a bit at odds with your earlier claims.
I don't see any internet bragging rights with average speeds so I'm not knocking your latest posting, just lets not put newer riders off by pretending we all blast round at 20+ all the time.
Whats the reference to reading English? Missed that one.
Looks to me like his hilly rides are 15-16 mph average, while the 20 mph+ rides are flat (though I think Will claims these as rolling or something to make them seem more impressive....)More problems but still living....0 -
I'm not going to cherry pick rides or even talk about my average speeds, but anyone interested in what a regular 4th Cat racer (and occasional sportive rider) can do over hilly rides in the Peaks might want to look at the Garmin Connect link in my signature. I haven't ridden a lot since September, but if you look back to July/August you'll see a decent selection of rides and road races mostly less than a couple of hours in duration. It should be obvious that there's a big difference between what I regularly do in training and what I can do in races and sportives.
My max HR is 184 which should give an idea of how hard I'm pushing and all the rides are door-door, usually with 2 crossings of Sheffield.
NB: most rides include power data, but my stupid Garmin always excludes zeros from the displayed average so the power figures displayed on Connect are usually inflated by ~30-50 Watts.More problems but still living....0 -
Can I join in the internet E-penis / willy waving?.
A little (non-cat) crit race I did on a short carpark track, over 20mph avg 8), not particularly impressive, but its the only ride I have uploaded to GC!!!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/457008910 -
freehub wrote:There was 2 club runs in that, but it's not weather it's a club run that counts, it's the effort, and when I'm sat on the front most of the time or off the front, then I hardly think I'm using other peoples effort.
They were great efforts will just the OP was implying his solo speeds and I struggle to get much more over 19mph personally and consider myself healthy (maybe not 'fit'). If you claim this speed is your average then you should be entering some races and like another poster has said can be off putting for someone getting into road cycling (which is why others refer to it as e-peen).
Grades of rider on here I suppose differ greatly. 8)0 -
I'm going to think twice before racing again cause I don't want to write another bike off.0
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freehub wrote:I'm going to think twice before racing again cause I don't want to write another bike off.
Perhaps concentrate on doing TT's then. With the sort of speeds you ride at, you could be quite a decent long distance TTer.
TT's are more than just speed though, they are a mental challenge as well.0 -
SBezza wrote:freehub wrote:I'm going to think twice before racing again cause I don't want to write another bike off.
Perhaps concentrate on doing TT's then. With the sort of speeds you ride at, you could be quite a decent long distance TTer.
TT's are more than just speed though, they are a mental challenge as well.
Yeah, it must be mental, cause the speeds I can do on a longish ride makes it seem odd how I struggle to get under 25mins on a 10 mile.0 -
SBezza wrote:freehub wrote:I'm going to think twice before racing again cause I don't want to write another bike off.
Perhaps concentrate on doing TT's then. With the sort of speeds you ride at, you could be quite a decent long distance TTer.
TT's are more than just speed though, they are a mental challenge as well.
+1
I think Will would do well.As far as i know his best TT of 25:15 was just on his road bike,his times would come down a fair bit with full aero kit&good postion.Or full kit on his long rides would give some good times too.Obviously this boy is not shy of putting in the effort.TT photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/steverob/0 -
stagger wrote:mrwibble wrote:I'm 42 and recently did 30 miles at 20 mph average on my onw. I was broken after though...
is it a fast bike, the onw?
jeez, round the peak district this time of year 14-15mph is hard enough , all you boys doing 20mph obviously live somewhere not too hilly...!
most of it was flat, I live in the Vale of York... I was still buggered tho0 -
Maybe you should try insurance !freehub wrote:I'm going to think twice before racing again cause I don't want to write another bike off.0
