Contador tests positive for Clenbuterol
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DaveyL wrote:dennisn wrote:Attica wrote:CyclingNews wrote:The 26-year-old has said he will fight he charges. “I'm going to do everything I can to prove I am innocent,” he said, and has already given a sample for a hair analysis test.
Has Contador provided a similar hair sample? Does that actually do any good?
I'd be rather glad if Contador could prove his innocence beyond any doubt, I somehow doubt he'd ever be able to if he were innocent.
I'm not sure if anyone should have to prove they are innocent of something. At least as far as the burden of proof always rests with the accuser.
Contador is already guilty - he has tested positive for a banned substance. He might get a reduced sentence if he can prove he is innocent of deliberately taking the substance.
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Haven't had time to read any of these yet:Le Parisien - Through his office window, Pat McQuaid shows the green foothills. “Normally all this is white in January...” In his large office, whose door is always open, the Irishman settles on a sofa, swallows his coffee and covers, in French, the day's burning questions. Forty minutes later, his only regret will be to have talked “too much about doping.”
When he announced his retirement last Tuesday, Floyd Landis also said that in his opinion “cycling will never be cured” of doping. What’s your reaction to those comments?
I don’t accept much of anything that he says. Landis has done a lot of harm to our sport. And he’s still doing so. I bid him farewell and a happy retirement. But I won’t let people like him say I’m corrupt. He has no proof. He has no credibility.
Did you see the investigative report on Lance Armstrong in Sports Illustrated?
Yes. But one never knows exactly what’s happening.
Do you want to know?
No, no, no. Because sport is bigger than Lance Armstrong. Bigger than Floyd Landis or Alberto Contador. I’m not saying that Armstrong is guilty, because one must wait for the outcome of the trial. But I’m sure that cycling is cleaner than it’s ever been. It’s the cleanest of sports.
But if it ends badly for the seven-time Tour de France winner, it will be another blow for cycling...
No, I don’t think so. Armstrong will ride two or three races this year but he’s already out of cycling. And if a case comes out in the US, cycling will be able to continue. The harm will be done to the past. I work with today’s cycling.
Is Contador an example of the efficiency of your system?
Absolutely. He was caught by the Cologne laboratory which is more efficient with Clenbuterol than others. Besides, I’ll ask the anti-doping department to select a number of samples for further testing that the Lausanne laboratory was not performing.
But the season is starting and one doesn’t know who won the 2010 Tour….
It’s a great pity. But that’s the system...
Why did you say that he might miss next Tour de France?
It’s being pragmatic. If he hasn’t received any answer before March, it will be a little late to prepare for the Tour de Fance. We are waiting. We would like it to happen as soon as possible.
Are you angry with him?
Yes. I don’t want to talk about the case before it’s completed. Of course, the fact that Clenbuterol was found puts a dark shadow on last year’s Tour de France. Guilty or not guilty, Contador did us a lot of harm.
Will the UCI remain firm on the “team radios” issue that some teams want to keep?
Yes. Who wants to keep them? Bruyneel, Riis. Because they are the ones who manage the most their riders. The UCI takes decisions for the future of cycling. With the “team radios” issue, it’s becoming annoying. If some teams are at fault, sanctions will be enforced.
With what in mind are you soon to meet Bruno Genevois, the new President of the French Anti-doping Agency?
I invited him. It was time to start again considering a way of working together. I hope he is a professional.
Wasn't that the case with his predecessor, Pierre Bordry?
No, it wasn't. He went too far with the media using the UCI to criticize cycling. I’m sure he was honest and was looking for a clean sport, but it was hard working with him.Reuters - Bjarne Riis, Saxo Bank’s manager, is anxiously awaiting a decision regarding his new leader, Alberto Contador, threatened with a two-year suspension following a positive test for Clenbuterol during the last Tour de France. The Spaniard may never wear the jersey of this team, whose sponsor committed for a year upon the Spanish rider’s signature.
Bjarne Riis, how are you coping with the expectation of a sanction against your new leader Alberto Contador?
We are concerned and we try to look after him the best we can. We have made every effort to ensure that the person I consider to be the best rider in the world join us, and it’s unthinkable that he cannot wear the Team Saxo Bank jersey.
Your sponsor, thrilled with Contador’s arrival, committed for one year after having announced his withdrawal planned for the end of 2010. What’s his attitude?
Like us, he is waiting and is not exerting any pressure. There is an ongoing case and we must respect it. Anyway, we won’t have any influence on the outcome.
And what is your feeling about Contador?
Disappointment made him say that he would end his career if he was punished. He is afraid, but still very motivated. During our pre-season training session, he was already ahead of all his teammates in the hills. I know his lawyers put together a very good defense case.
Pat McQuaid, President of the UCI, stated that Contador was unlikely to take part in the coming Tour de France ?
This is just speculation. This case is disturbing. Of course, Clenbuterol has been found in his urine but I recall that the dose was tiny. He did not win the Tour de France thanks to that, and it’s amazing that it was only visible for one day. For me, Contador is not guilty, but McQaid wants him to be suspended for a question of politics only.
If he is punished, all your plans will have to be revised?
I don’t want to think about it. For the moment we are working normally as if the season were soon to begin for him.
And if he pulls through, will you make him take part in the three 2011 Grand Tours ?
I would like to take this bet with him in 2011, but I don’t have the right team to support him. It will be for later.
This Contador affair occurs the year of the creation of Team Leopard around the Schleck brothers, Fabian Cancellara, your ex-associate Kim Andersen, and many other members of Saxo Bank team. How are you coping with this?
I would have preferred a different situation but that's cycling. From 17 to 20 people, I don’t know exactly, left Saxo Bank and that forced me to question ourselves. I probably have a less-strong team in most areas but it’s still a good team.
Nick Nuyens will be a very good leader for the classics, Richie Porte is exceptionally talented, his margin for progress is huge, and in a year or two he will become a Tour de France protagonist.
Bradley McGee is the world’s best directeur sportif, and his new associate, Frenchman Philippe Mauduit (coming from Cervelo), is top quality.
I’ll tell you a secret: I feel more relaxed than last year. 2010 was very complicated.
In the last Tour of Spain, you excluded Andy Schleck because he went out for a drink in a bar one evening. Would you have done it if he had stayed in your team?
Yes! There are rules that should not be disobeyed. On the other hand, as I paid him until the end of the year, he could ride until then. As could others who I knew would also leave.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Did I read somewhere that the decision was this week?
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Interesting piece here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_ ... ol_dilemma0
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micron wrote:Interesting piece here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_ ... ol_dilemma
I'd say a very biased account, there.
It's just as possible that the the Clen' traces came from a transfusion.
And what of the plasticisers?0 -
But actually, what this article reveals we knew quite soon after the test results of Contador were made public because the KEY here is that these Chinese absorbed Clen through PORK and not beef."We discovered that if the pork meat or liver is heavily contaminated, then you can test positive from eating it, but not every time," Zhao said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's possible. That's fact, scientifically proven. You can test positive from contaminated meat."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_ ... ol_dilemma
Eating Pork or Pork liver may see you absorb the Clen into your system but not beef if I'm not missing something. There is little plausible to show the same applies to beef.0 -
cajun_cyclist wrote:But actually, what this article reveals we knew quite soon after the test results of Contador were made public because the KEY here is that these Chinese absorbed Clen through PORK and not beef."We discovered that if the pork meat or liver is heavily contaminated, then you can test positive from eating it, but not every time," Zhao said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's possible. That's fact, scientifically proven. You can test positive from contaminated meat."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_ ... ol_dilemma
Eating Pork or Pork liver may see you absorb the Clen into your system but not beef if I'm not missing something. There is little plausible to show the same applies to beef.
As someone pointed out on another thread, an anagram of Leopard-Trek is 'Altered Pork', revealing who the real culprit is.Twitter: @RichN950 -
FF - do you keep a lock of Contodour's hair under your pillow? If so, hand it over as it could clear your man of deliberate doping
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hair-tests-could-prove-deliberate-clenbuterol-abuse
... course, it could also show he's a clem addict.0 -
and where did I read that clen sticks longer to darker hair?
An unfair advantage to the ginger, blonde and grey haired I would say.0 -
Tusher wrote:and where did I read that clen sticks longer to darker hair?
An unfair advantage to the ginger, blonde and grey haired I would say.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hair-te ... erol-abuse0 -
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'No later than February 15' is what I read.
Yeah but what ruddy year ?
Whole thing is pathetic.
Useless UCI.............................headed by Pat Mctwat..................0 -
itisaboutthebike wrote:Yeah but what ruddy year ?
Whole thing is pathetic.
Useless UCI.............................headed by Pat Mctwat..................
What's the UCI got to do with it?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:What's the UCI got to do with it?
Come on Iain. Surely Pat and his cronies are guilty of something.0 -
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Beaten by DoobzFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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freaky!!0
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Nailed on for the Vuelta this year then.___________________
Strava is not Zen.0 -
Massive fail.Marca said the fact that "no one has been able to show how the substance entered" his body, together with the minute quantity of clenbuterol detected means that the RFEC will propose a sanction of one year rather than two.
Surely the proof is on him to prove how it got into his body, rather than the other way around?0 -
The UCI and WADA will appeal that to CAS, if it's true.
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If only those pesky journalists not got involved this would all be out of the way and we'd be looking forward to Bert climbing with a VAM of 2200 this summer.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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Newspapers say anything. Either way, if true it will keep many people happy while still allowing him to come back and clean up at the Vuelta this year - will be the better than the Tour, especially if Anton, Sastre, Menchov, Sanchez, Nibali, Rodriguez and others are riding this climbers GT.Contador is the Greatest0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Massive fail.Marca said the fact that "no one has been able to show how the substance entered" his body, together with the minute quantity of clenbuterol detected means that the RFEC will propose a sanction of one year rather than two.
Surely the proof is on him to prove how it got into his body, rather than the other way around?
They should stick to fawning over their posterboy (no, FF, I mean Marca) "CR7".Le Blaireau (1)0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Newspapers say anything. Either way, if true it will keep many people happy while still allowing him to come back and clean up at the Vuelta this year - will be the better than the Tour, especially if Anton, Sastre, Menchov, Sanchez, Nibali, Rodriguez and others are riding this climbers GT.
Afraid that Vuelta whatever the course will be poor mans cousin to the TDF.
I don't think UCI or WADA will be happy with a years ban at all. Nor will most cycling fans who wish to see their sport ran 'clean'.0 -
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Gazzaputt wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Newspapers say anything. Either way, if true it will keep many people happy while still allowing him to come back and clean up at the Vuelta this year - will be the better than the Tour, especially if Anton, Sastre, Menchov, Sanchez, Nibali, Rodriguez and others are riding this climbers GT.
Afraid that Vuelta whatever the course will be poor mans cousin to the TDF.
I don't think UCI or WADA will be happy with a years ban at all. Nor will most cycling fans who wish to see their sport ran 'clean'.
Have you ever watched a Vuelta. Thought not. Light 'em up racing on the mountains.Contador is the Greatest0
