Contador tests positive for Clenbuterol

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  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    iainf72 wrote:
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6106/Arrests-made-in-Spanish-Clenbuterol-investigation-in-Gran-Canaria-and-Tenerife.aspx

    Hmmmm. Thickens the blood

    Fixed that for you... Oh hang on, wrong PED
    "Impressive break"

    "Thanks...

    ...I can taste blood"
  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    trailstar wrote:
    he is riding it.. rather than racing it i believe.

    The organisers have invited him to ride the crit to keep the crowds coming for his name

    So how can the organisers justify that?
    "Come see our race - oh and a suspected cheat who won't be placed"
    The whole of this ruddy sport that I love needs to give itself a good long look in the mirror
    "Impressive break"

    "Thanks...

    ...I can taste blood"
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Attica wrote:
    W T F ?

    What part of suspension am I not understanding?

    If it is a non UCI event he can still ride it. As it is the goodbye to Checu I don't have a problem with him turning up. Mosqueira is there too
  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    I disagree, if he does get banned and labelled a cheat, the sport should exclude him for the duration of his ban/suspension, not use his name to draw crowds.
    "Impressive break"

    "Thanks...

    ...I can taste blood"
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Attica wrote:
    I disagree, if he does get banned and labelled a cheat, the sport should exclude him for the duration of his ban/suspension, not use his name to draw crowds.

    Not looked up the details but if this is affectively just a club run to say goodbye to Checu then it isn't sanctioned by the UCI so they can't stop him riding on the streets.

    Can't find any details of the crit at moment but if it's nothing more than just a show for a 16 year career with no money there then I don't have a problem.

    Contador and Checu could be friends and until this has happened we don't know how much riding Contador will actually do
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    Mooro wrote:
    doenst this jump in performance assume he was giving 100% at the time of the dauphine?

    Yes, but as we all know Contador doesn’t enter races just for training and always tries to win. He didn’t win therefore we can assume he was giving 100% effort and it wasn’t good enough.
    Mañana
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    pb21 wrote:
    Mooro wrote:
    doenst this jump in performance assume he was giving 100% at the time of the dauphine?

    Yes, but as we all know Contador doesn’t enter races just for training and always tries to win. He didn’t win therefore we can assume he was giving 100% effort and it wasn’t good enough.

    Having watched the Dauphine he was well below the level he usually is at, just like he was in the tour too.

    The attacks he usually does just weren't present and even the Alp DiHuez stage that he really wanted to, and did win, he still wasn't head and shoulders above the rest as I would have expected him to be
  • cajun_cyclist
    cajun_cyclist Posts: 493
    .................but some (Spanish) are more equal than others.


    They didn't pussy foot around Floyd like this, did they?

    I think the difference with Contador is he is a Multi-Tour winner so treated a bit more delicately.
  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    sherer wrote:
    they can't stop him riding on the streets.

    True but perhaps they should shy away from statements like
    Javier Pascual Rodríguez wrote:
    This way, we can show him our total support.
    "Impressive break"

    "Thanks...

    ...I can taste blood"
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Attica wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6106/Arrests-made-in-Spanish-Clenbuterol-investigation-in-Gran-Canaria-and-Tenerife.aspx

    Hmmmm. Thickens the blood

    Fixed that for you... Oh hang on, wrong PED

    I'm reading other reports that they were doping horses and cattle.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    iainf72 wrote:
    Attica wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6106/Arrests-made-in-Spanish-Clenbuterol-investigation-in-Gran-Canaria-and-Tenerife.aspx

    Hmmmm. Thickens the blood

    Fixed that for you... Oh hang on, wrong PED

    I'm reading other reports that they were doping horses and cattle.
    So this story both gives weight to Bertie's claims and raises more suspicion about them at the same time.

    Overall, as you were.
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  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    In Spain still happens:

    http://www.abc.es/agencias/noticia.asp?noticia=561027
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    Grappes comments are pretty interesting

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6101/ ... rance.aspx

    That's a huge jump in performance

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12712276
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Contador NOT going to ride that crit after all (or any other events) until his case is settled:

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/ ... 47285?news
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    BREAKING NEWS: Team Astana have found some defence witnesses:



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  • gethmetal
    gethmetal Posts: 208
    ^ :lol:
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    RichN95 wrote:
    BREAKING NEWS: Team Astana have found some defence witnesses:



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    And a safe alternative to beef :lol:


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  • stjohnswell
    stjohnswell Posts: 482
    Awwww. Rasmussen and Vino. A lovely couple.
    SecretSqirrel wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    BREAKING NEWS: Team Astana have found some defence witnesses:



    10.jpg

    And a safe alternative to beef :lol:


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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Any idea when a decision is going to be made on whether Bertie is to be banned?
  • stevie_90210
    stevie_90210 Posts: 94
    Pross wrote:
    Any idea when a decision is going to be made on whether Bertie is to be banned?

    I was just thinking this myself.
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  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    BikingBernie wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    Can scandal/

    BB has been quiet for a while! What happened? :o
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,654
    A month since the news broke, news which had been sat on for a while previously, and we're still none the wiser as to what will happen.

    Would be nice if the UCI gave us some sort of timescale of when they expect to have something concrete to say, and what they're actually doing in the meantime....
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  • stevie_90210
    stevie_90210 Posts: 94
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    A month since the news broke, news which had been sat on for a while previously, and we're still none the wiser as to what will happen.

    Would be nice if the UCI gave us some sort of timescale of when they expect to have something concrete to say, and what they're actually doing in the meantime....

    Definitely, that would be nice if they could keep the fans and supporters of the sport reasonably informed.
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  • dougzz
    dougzz Posts: 1,833
    No tA Doctor wrote:

    Would be nice if the UCI gave us some sort of timescale of when they expect to have something concrete to say, and what they're actually doing in the meantime....

    They're praying for a big news story to cover everything else up so they can quietly slip in a 3 month ban for Bertie to be served in January to March 2030, and hope it all just slips away into a bad memory.

    Because surely this is really really simple. Rider tests positive for a quantity of a non naturally occurring banned substance, therefore +ive. Banned for 2 years. Rider can then appeal and try to get ban reduced/over turned based on circumstances. But that's for the rider to do not the UCI. This stinks because already they've behaved differently because the rider was the top GC man around, and possibly the biggest name in the sport. They've compromised themselves as an organisation, and it's clear that they should not be responsible for the drug testing and subsequent action that needs to be taken. They should run the sport, promote it, and leave the PED control side of things entirely to another body.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    I'm guessing a backdated 3 month ban and fine will be announced on Christmas morning.

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    dougzz wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:

    Would be nice if the UCI gave us some sort of timescale of when they expect to have something concrete to say, and what they're actually doing in the meantime....

    They're praying for a big news story to cover everything else up so they can quietly slip in a 3 month ban for Bertie to be served in January to March 2030, and hope it all just slips away into a bad memory.

    Because surely this is really really simple. Rider tests positive for a quantity of a non naturally occurring banned substance, therefore +ive. Banned for 2 years. Rider can then appeal and try to get ban reduced/over turned based on circumstances. But that's for the rider to do not the UCI. This stinks because already they've behaved differently because the rider was the top GC man around, and possibly the biggest name in the sport. They've compromised themselves as an organisation, and it's clear that they should not be responsible for the drug testing and subsequent action that needs to be taken. They should run the sport, promote it, and leave the PED control side of things entirely to another body.

    typical comment from a guy who wasn't any good
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    @dave_1: :roll:

    @dougzz: very well put.
  • dulldave
    dulldave Posts: 949
    andyp wrote:
    @dave_1: :roll:

    @dougzz: very well put.

    +1
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  • stevie_90210
    stevie_90210 Posts: 94
    andyp wrote:
    @dave_1: :roll:

    +3
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  • edhornby
    edhornby Posts: 1,780
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    I'm guessing a backdated 3 month ban and fine will be announced on Christmas morning.

    I don't want it to be, but I think this may be the outcome...

    other option is that dodgy Pat prevaricates until the start of the next season and then says 'well if we can't be certain then we can't stop him racing otherwise it will go to court for restraint of trade on Bertie's behalf..' or some such other b()llc0ks
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