Contador tests positive for Clenbuterol

RichN95.

ratsbeyfus wrote:

More experts don't buy Bertie's porkies:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/experts-poke-holes-in-contadors-contaminated-meat-defense

These experts are from all over the world. Maybe the decision will be decided like the Eurovision song contest

Expert from UK: No Points
Expert from Canada: No Points or Nul Points (we're not really sure)
Expert from Spain: Doce Puntos
Expert from Ireland: Seven points. Give our love to Paddy.
Expert from Sweden: Nollpunkter

etc, etc

DaveyL

Actually I believe the Eurovision panel refused to hear Bert's case, because his Sidi adverts are too camp even for them.

meggiedude

ratsbeyfus wrote:

More experts don't buy Bertie's porkies:

Sounds like a new brand of Bangers

"Bertie's Porkies - Guaranteed low fat!!"

MD

victorponf

A german tenis table player no fined after a clembuterol affair:

(sorry in spanish)

http://www.as.com/ciclismo/articulo/jug ... es?print=1

ratsbeyfus

and here in english... but there are important differences

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6025/Alberto-Contador-Case-Table-tennis-player-Ovtcharov-cleared-of-Clenbuterol-use.aspx

There aint any mountains in table tennis!

itisaboutthebike

There aint any mountains in table tennis!

There are if you play like I do..................I just wonder what kind of TT player I might have been if I'd been taking the right stuff when I started 35 years ago....................

ratsbeyfus

Frenchie...? Frenchie...? Where are you? You can come out now... your man is feeling ping-pong-tastic. And even some of the 'experts' are buying the mis-steak story:

Mike Morgan, a British lawyer who previously sat on the CAS panel, supports Contador's contaminated meat theory.

"It seems entirely unlikely that such a minimal presence of Clenbuterol, as the analysis of Contador test has shown, is the result of deliberate doping," said Morgan.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6044/Contador-is-optimistic-in-Clenbuterol-fight-says-new-boss-Riis.aspx#ixzz12e7eQCQ2

Just don't mention the plastic.

DaveyL

OK, Kleber, what's the bleedin' obvious thing then?

My guess is - he took some other "undetectable" PED which was contaminated with clenbuterol.

LangerDan

S'obvious - Bertie is a cyborg with a plastic endoskeleton and an external covering made of living bovine tissue. When he was tested, his composite willy contaminated the urine sample.

However, Bertie is hoping to be upgraded to a mimetic metal alloy which will allow him walk, unhindered, through any obstacles which may placed in his path - such as 2-year bans.

meggiedude

I always though it was Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick - Obvious

mikey_748

If you thought Bertie had problems.....

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-65365.html

U.S. Anti-Doping Agency suspends Olympic champion for using penis enlargement drugs

"To know that I've tested positive as a result of a product that I used for personal reasons is extremely difficult to wrap my hands around," he said earlier this year.

My god they must work well!

term1te

There was an article in my local free paper this morning about the dangers of plasticisers/phthalates in those foamy plastic shoes and sex toys. Another excuse in the waiting?

meggiedude

mikey_748 wrote:

If you thought Bertie had problems.....

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-65365.html

U.S. Anti-Doping Agency suspends Olympic champion for using penis enlargement drugs

"To know that I've tested positive as a result of a product that I used for personal reasons is extremely difficult to wrap my hands around," he said earlier this year.

My god they must work well!

Thanks for that - I've just spat my coffee over my notepad (and thats not a euphemism btw).

cajun_cyclist

mikey_748 wrote:

If you thought Bertie had problems.....

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-65365.html

U.S. Anti-Doping Agency suspends Olympic champion for using penis enlargement drugs

"To know that I've tested positive as a result of a product that I used for personal reasons is extremely difficult to wrap my hands around," he said earlier this year.

My god they must work well!

Is this that Michael Phelps guy?? Maybe this is why he was hitting the bong, some say it's an aphrodisiac.

ratsbeyfus

Contador case going to take a while:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-puts-the-brakes-on-an-early-conclusion-to-contador-case

Hmmmm... what's so difficult? He's been caught with a banned substance in him, so ban him for two years, unless Contador can provide evidence for there being mitigating circumstances. IMO Contador should be digging up the evidence, not the UCI.

meggiedude

“We don’t treat him differently than the others, but let’s be honest, the fact that it was Alberto Contador means that we have to be certain we take the right decision,” McQuaid said.

Huh??? Well isn't that an example of special treatment.

PBo

ratsbeyfus wrote:

Contador case going to take a while:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-puts-the-brakes-on-an-early-conclusion-to-contador-case

Hmmmm... what's so difficult? He's been caught with a banned substance in him, so ban him for two years, unless Contador can provide evidence for there being mitigating circumstances. IMO Contador should be digging up the evidence, not the UCI.

interesting point. in a normal court of law, he would only need to provide reasonable doubt. here, it looks like he has to get irrefutable evidence.

disgruntledgoat

meggiedude wrote:

“We don’t treat him differently than the others, but let’s be honest, the fact that it was Alberto Contador means that we have to be certain we take the right decision,” McQuaid said.

Huh??? Well isn't that an example of special treatment.

And the award for fastest self-contradiction goes to....

Must be why Mosquera's B sample is taking so long.

Pross

PBo wrote:

ratsbeyfus wrote:

Contador case going to take a while:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-puts-the-brakes-on-an-early-conclusion-to-contador-case

Hmmmm... what's so difficult? He's been caught with a banned substance in him, so ban him for two years, unless Contador can provide evidence for there being mitigating circumstances. IMO Contador should be digging up the evidence, not the UCI.

interesting point. in a normal court of law, he would only need to provide reasonable doubt. here, it looks like he has to get irrefutable evidence.

Not in a civil court he wouldn't - it would be based on the balance of probability. From what I've read the balance of probability to me suggests he was doping. Besides, it isn't a court case, it's more a disciplinary hearing.

Bernardus

meggiedude wrote:

“We don’t treat him differently than the others, but let’s be honest, the fact that it was Alberto Contador means that we have to be certain we take the right decision,” McQuaid said.

Huh??? Well isn't that an example of special treatment.

All animals are equal...

Monty Zoncolan

More a poor choice of words I think than a demonstration of inconsistency. The outcome will be consistent, the wider consequences won't be.

meggiedude

Monty Zoncolan wrote:

More a poor choice of words I think than a demonstration of inconsistency. The outcome will be consistent, the wider consequences won't be.

More a poor choice of UCI President???

Lets hope there is a consistant outcome. All this fannying about is a bit tiresome. You can be sure if it was any other rider he'd serving his ban by now.
So I think the latter part of the el Presidente's mutterings are nearer the truth than the former.

iainf72

Grappes comments are pretty interesting

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6101/ ... rance.aspx

That's a huge jump in performance

LangerDan

So let me get this clear

Bertie doesn't release data about his physiological parameters = Bad

Grappe won't explain where he gets his 10% figure from = Good (acceptable, anyway)

I like the way Grappe has rolled out these analyses in the past but all they are are estimates. Its not like he has some secret device that can accurately measure VO2max from five hundred metres. Why the secrecy?

His comment about how Pip Gilbert "developed a maximum tolerance of lactic quality " sounds uncannily like Coyles rationale for Armstongs performance.

iainf72

He is french and therefore beyond reproach.

Don't you know the rules?

mooro

doenst this jump in performance assume he was giving 100% at the time of the dauphine? How does this compare to hi exertions at the dauhpine last year or to A Schlecks warm up races?

I must confess that i am a bit of a contador fan but do reckon he has been caught out with this test.

Tusher

Bernardus wrote:

meggiedude wrote:

“We don’t treat him differently than the others, but let’s be honest, the fact that it was Alberto Contador means that we have to be certain we take the right decision,” McQuaid said.

Huh??? Well isn't that an example of special treatment.

All animals are equal...

.................but some (Spanish) are more equal than others.


They didn't pussy foot around Floyd like this, did they?

attica

W T F ?

What part of suspension am I not understanding?

iainf72

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6106/ ... erife.aspx

Hmmmm. Thickens the plot

trailstar

he is riding it.. rather than racing it i believe.

The organisers have invited him to ride the crit to keep the crowds coming for his name