Tour de France Stage 12 *spoiler*

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  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    Rafa Valls from Footon, one for the future!
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Bole nicks points from Hushovd, for Ale J.
    Gap now 2 minutes and climbing.
    I sense another Shack stage win coming up.
    Kloden the best climber in this bunch.
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    With Hjesdal and Vino I suspect some teams will try to limit their advantage.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    got to give thor his due... still think its a ask for him but what a battle he is putting up
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Kléber wrote:
    With Hjesdal and Vino I suspect some teams will try to limit their advantage.

    my thoughts too

    saxo euskatel and rabo to ride?
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    I count two Caisse to one Shack there
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Bole nicks points from Hushovd, for Ale J.
    Gap now 2 minutes and climbing.
    I sense another Shack stage win coming up.
    Kloden the best climber in this bunch.

    I dunno Ryder is no slouch these days and klodi hasn't impressed much

    could be right

    not convinced that they are going to stay away just yet
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    mididoctors wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    With Hjesdal and Vino I suspect some teams will try to limit their advantage.

    my thoughts too

    saxo euskatel and rabo to ride?

    That spells L'Aquila! :P
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  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    mididoctors wrote:
    thor in front group

    bole to try and mug him

    Oh I'm sure Bole killing himself on these early mountains will seem him well down by the end! Doing a good job for Petacchi there though.
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  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    IME, they are doing this so Saxo has to work chasing this at the peloton. But I am no expert so probably wrong :)
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    A tie on points for Hushovd and Petacchi now.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 2010
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    I count two Caisse to one Shack there

    ok punditeers


    how much time does caisee need going into the ITT to win the team Classement

    caisse have guiterrezzzzzzzz I guess who can cancel out one shack tester...

    the shack has levi klodi and Brakojwicifiscergiglglil (spelling these names!) and lance if he is going well (seems poor against the clock these days thou)
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    right off to watch the tv.......
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Does the team get to stand on the podium in Paris if they win the team classification?
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    DaveyL wrote:
    Does the team get to stand on the podium in Paris if they win the team classification?

    indeed it does

    because they were

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    awesome
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    mididoctors wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Bole nicks points from Hushovd, for Ale J.
    Gap now 2 minutes and climbing.
    I sense another Shack stage win coming up.
    Kloden the best climber in this bunch.

    I dunno Ryder is no slouch these days and klodi hasn't impressed much

    could be right

    not convinced that they are going to stay away just yet

    I agree, doubt they will stay away and would take Vino or more likely Ryder who is very good on the steep ones (5th in Eroica, 2nd in Amstel and 7th in Fleche, just this year).
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  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    iainf72 wrote:
    I find it quiet tragic the Shack are taking the team competition so seriously.

    I

    Is tragic really the right word to use here ?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    The gap is being held at 2'10". Must mean Saxo are getting that helping hand.
    The pace on the 2nd cat, unsurprisingly, has steadied.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Moray Gub wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    I find it quiet tragic the Shack are taking the team competition so seriously.

    I

    Is tragic really the right word to use here ?

    tragic is strong but thee is an air of desperate times desperate measures... because of all the back story

    but as for team gc...why not take it seriously for the start and make it your goal for paris...

    some french teams do...
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Lead seems limited at 2m30s.

    Something's up with Radioshack. To have one rider off the pace can happen but they are all miles of previous levels. Armstrong, Kloeden, Brajkovic, Leipheimer are having a tough time. Popovych too is a shadow of his former self. I wonder what's changed this year? :? :?:
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Kléber wrote:
    Lead seems limited at 2m30s.

    Something's up with Radioshack. To have one rider off the pace can happen but they are all miles of previous levels. Armstrong, Kloeden, Brajkovic, Leipheimer are having a tough time. Popovych too is a shadow of his former self. I wonder what's changed this year? :? :?:

    I dunno - I'd say Levi's position on GC at the moment is reasonable, but would agree with all the others.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Anyone else feel that Hushovd has made a conscious decision to perhaps tweak his training / reduce his weight and risk being up there in the bunch sprints in order to pick up the relatively straighforward intermediate points on a day like this? Not a criticism as I think it's a good tactic and would like to see the points jersey be determined more on an all round basis rather than it being just a sprinters competition.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    the shack drop in form? motivation

    what are they riding for?

    can you imagine what is going through the minds of some the shacks riders with all that is going on....

    I cant
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    charteau pips barredo
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Kléber wrote:
    Lead seems limited at 2m30s.

    Something's up with Radioshack. To have one rider off the pace can happen but they are all miles of previous levels. Armstrong, Kloeden, Brajkovic, Leipheimer are having a tough time. Popovych too is a shadow of his former self. I wonder what's changed this year? :? :?:

    Hmmmmmmmm. Not so easy is it now. Same goes for Dave Z, Hincapie and others. Hope the Feds fry them.

    I will say as much when I am in the Pyrenees next week.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    and perget
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    I find it hard to fathom why a team would spend so much effort on the team classification yet neglect the KoM jersey? One is significantly more valuable than the other in publicity yet very few teams ever seem to try for the latter.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    French tv reported on a "chute" for Bradders and Geraint. :?
    KS has definitely been on the deck.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I was thinking last night how a few extra stages like today with a chain of 2nd and 3rd cat climbs in areas such as the Massive Central, Vosges and Ardennes to replace a coupe of the flat stages could help liven up the race and put a few more riders into GC contention. To keep it all a bit more open I was thinking the race needs the TTT as this means that team selection is crucial and those who pick a lot of mountain domestiques can lose time, a pave section plus maybe 4 of these sorts of days and that this would mean that a rider who maybe doesn't get over the high mountains with the leaders could upset the apple cart a bit and force more agressive racing in the hills. Any thought?
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,632
    mididoctors wrote:
    how much time does caisee need going into the ITT to win the team Classement
    Caisse lost 28s to Shack in the 9k Prologue. So may lose 2-3mins in the 51k TT?
    Rich

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