Giro Stage 11 *spoiler*

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  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    Pross wrote:
    Hats off to the domestiques. This stage is theirs. No other sport rivals this one.
    Like pretty much any other stage then really :roll:
    I'm as quick as the rest of us to jump at FF BUT maybe he didn't mean they are going to win the stage, but rather that they have bossed the stage. That is unusual in a way that winning wouldn't be.

    No, I'd say domestiques bossing the stage happens pretty often. You don't often see a GC, KoM or sprint contender at the front of the peleton/lead group unless it's at the sharp end of the stage.
    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    The implications for one, unspecified stage, further up the road, is now immense.
    Vino won't take this lying down. Garzelli and Scarponi both have the attacking instinct
    Liquioutagas are going to have to plot something. Even Lampre.

    This Giro could eventually surpass all the recent greats.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    I mean that the glory is theirs. The time is so large because of them not because the GC guys have made an effort worthy of earning a great position. No accolades from me to GC runners gaining ridiculous time here. They have the time and that's done - hopefully they will go for broke in the stages that matter to come and conserve or increase their lead.

    So back in 2007 when your mate Vino was pedalling around with someone else's blood pumping through his veins, what did you think of him then?

    He had lost time, and then when about getting into a break to get some time back.

    Sure, he attacked in the final kms and won the stage, (and maybe one of the big name riders in the front group will do likewise).

    But is there any difference between what is happening today in the Giro, to that stage back in the 07 tdf?
  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    Finally an English feed...

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    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Yes, the likes of Evans will be forced to attack if they want to make up time.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    12'55". Still going out, and Vino is getting desperate enough to start pulling at the front.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    I reckon this gap could well blow out to 14 minutes again by the end of the stage.

    They are 10 kms down on the road, and the 'GC' group look stuffed!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Ah! The big boys final wake up..........
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    I reckon this gap could well blow out to 14 minutes again by the end of the stage.

    They are 10 kms down on the road, and the 'GC' group look stuffed
    !

    I know it's hard to judge, but the GC chasers look far more ragged than the front group.
  • fastercyclist
    fastercyclist Posts: 396
    I mean that the glory is theirs. The time is so large because of them not because the GC guys have made an effort worthy of earning a great position. No accolades from me to GC runners gaining ridiculous time here. They have the time and that's done - hopefully they will go for broke in the stages that matter to come and conserve or increase their lead.

    By the same coin, neither have the GC contenders in the group behind. Can't have it both ways FF.
    The British Empire never died, it just moved to the Velodrome
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    afx237vi wrote:
    I know it's hard to judge, but the GC chasers look far more ragged than the front group.
    They can chase but know they are on a hiding to nothing, they have to ride their socks off just to limit the damage.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    What it does mean is the fellows are going to have to attack earlier in the mountains to get rid of some of these pests.

    Porte to do a little Schleck I expect.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    afx237vi wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    I reckon this gap could well blow out to 14 minutes again by the end of the stage.

    They are 10 kms down on the road, and the 'GC' group look stuffed
    !

    I know it's hard to judge, but the GC chasers look far more ragged than the front group.

    Sorry, that's who I meant. You know the supposed 'GC' riders.

    I know they are pulling turns now, but gee they look rooted.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    12.56 at the 30km mark
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    How many riders will be outside the time limit today?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    I reckon this gap could well blow out to 14 minutes again by the end of the stage.

    They are 10 kms down on the road, and the 'GC' group look stuffed
    !

    I know it's hard to judge, but the GC chasers look far more ragged than the front group.

    Sorry, that's who I meant. You know the supposed 'GC' riders.

    I know they are pulling turns now, but gee they look rooted.

    I know, I was agreeing :wink:

    A rare occurrence on this forum, maybe that's why you missed it.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Cracking looking stage so far. It'll be interesting to see if any of the bigger names in the lead group burst out towards the end to try and grab a bit more time over the GC group.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    phreak wrote:
    Cracking looking stage so far. It'll be interesting to see if any of the bigger names in the lead group burst out towards the end to try and grab a bit more time over the GC group.

    They probably will. Looking for the stage win if nothing else.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    afx237vi wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    I reckon this gap could well blow out to 14 minutes again by the end of the stage.

    They are 10 kms down on the road, and the 'GC' group look stuffed
    !

    I know it's hard to judge, but the GC chasers look far more ragged than the front group.

    Sorry, that's who I meant. You know the supposed 'GC' riders.

    I know they are pulling turns now, but gee they look rooted.

    I know, I was agreeing :wink:

    A rare occurrence on this forum, maybe that's why you missed it.

    Sorry, living in Australia I am in dire need of sleep. Need a rest day soon!

    Too tired to notice you agreed. Off to get some PEDs.
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    How many riders will be outside the time limit today?

    I was wondering the same thing. I saw a while ago on the cyclingnews feed that some riders were dropped from the GC group a while ago. Its a long stage and it may count as a hilly stage which could extend the time limit, but there must be the danger of quite a few stragglers being eliminated today?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    AidanR wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    Hats off to the domestiques. This stage is theirs. No other sport rivals this one.
    Like pretty much any other stage then really :roll:
    I'm as quick as the rest of us to jump at FF BUT maybe he didn't mean they are going to win the stage, but rather that they have bossed the stage. That is unusual in a way that winning wouldn't be.

    No, I'd say domestiques bossing the stage happens pretty often. You don't often see a GC, KoM or sprint contender at the front of the peloton/lead group unless it's at the sharp end of the stage.

    Yep, that's pretty much the point I was trying to make but not so well.


    But is there any difference between what is happening today in the Giro, to that stage back in the 07 tdf?

    Only that Vino is on the "signature list" and therefore different rules apply :lol:
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    So, orginal gap formed when the race split a bit on the first climb, then it started to rain on the descent. Lots of people went to get capes etc and by the time they realised 50 people were 10 minutes up the road.

    FAIL.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    iainf72 wrote:
    So, orginal gap formed when the race split a bit on the first climb, then it started to rain on the descent. Lots of people went to get capes etc and by the time they realised 50 people were 10 minutes up the road.

    FAIL.

    teach them to MTFU and put up with getting wet like I had to this morning! :D
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    It's wet. The RCS should neutralise the last 240kms of this stage. :P
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    12.23 at 20km
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ketsbaia
    ketsbaia Posts: 1,718
    Down to 12.23 now

    Jinx!
  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    Is there something in the rules to prevent teams tracking their riders with GPS chips? It seems that it is dangerous to rely on race control to keep tabs on time gaps.
    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Will be about 10 minutes in the end. Cracking stuff.

    Tondo for me is the big GC danger. Will he have to work for Sastre though?
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    I don't see that gap being reduced to 10 minutes.