Giro Stage 11 *spoiler*
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To be fair to Oscar he did an impeccable job defending from the moment he got the jersey, he had to climb over the Alps, and defend attacks from Kloden, Sastre and others0
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Pokerface wrote:You have to wonder if this is going to turn out to be a Óscar Pereiro moment - the day the peloton let someone get too far up the road - only to have them end up winning the whole thing.
Hopefully without 12 months legal wrangling this time!
Seriously, I can't understand why anybody thinks results like that are any less worthy than winning in convenstional fashion! I love these rides! remember that break in the 2000 (?) tour?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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The real beauty of this race? No Radio Shack like team to quash any such daring tactics."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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[/quote]disgruntledgoat wrote:frenchfighter wrote:I hope the advantage is SIGNIFICNTLY reduced. I don't see that as an admirable way to get a great placing - more like a gift as the effort involved with 56 riders pulling is much smaller.
Smaller than what? The effort being put in by the near 150 riders chasing?
FF, you've posted some interesting comments in the past, but this one takes the cake!0 -
RichN95 wrote:
i think i saw his helemt at the back gillet on"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Eurosport continue to show, tennis, tennis and.....er......more tennis. WTF?
Are all tennis fans 4 eyed?
Even RAI are talking, not showing.........."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
It took Greg Le Mond many, many stages to claw back Claudio Chiappucci lead that he got in a breakaway, yet that was no where near as big a group.
Porte seems to be the most dangerous being a decent climber and a great TT'er. Not sure how he will perform over three intense weeks.Contador is the Greatest0 -
SpaceJunk wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:frenchfighter wrote:I hope the advantage is SIGNIFICNTLY reduced. I don't see that as an admirable way to get a great placing - more like a gift as the effort involved with 56 riders pulling is much smaller.
Smaller than what? The effort being put in by the near 150 riders chasing?
FF, you've posted some interesting comments in the past, but this one takes the cake![/quote]
A gift?? If it's a gift, you need someone presenting it,,,, no???0 -
Standings before the stage of the guys in the breakDo you have any Therapeutic Use Exemptions?
No. Never have.
Never? What about the cortisone?
Well, obviously there was the cortisone0 -
15mins with 70km to go!!! They normally estimate a 1min/10km but that is a peloton with sprinter's teams working to catch a small breakaway...Contador is the Greatest0
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unusual to see a SKY rider falling of their bike on a straight bit of road..0
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Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Sheptastic wrote:unusual to see a SKY rider falling of their bike on a straight bit of road..
Impressive collection of musettes on the ground after he hit his guy though.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
today, they will ride their bicycles to the finish line faster than everyone in the 2nd group.frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
simples.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
But it's their teams that have been doing most of the riding on the front.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
Ummm FF, cycling is a TEAM sport. They were smart enough to get riders in the break - SKY got 4.
So when AC sits on his team mates til the final climb, keeping himself fresh, is that good management or is AC being gifted?
Vino, Evans and so were stupid enough to allow the gap to blow out.0 -
RichN95 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
But it's their teams that have been doing most of the riding on the front.
It seems incredible that the team leaders in teh front group dont all go hell for leather. the GC is more important than the stage...if they started working, you could get that lead up to 20 mins0 -
How many people does it take to tell someone they're wrong before they concede that they are wrong?
Anyway, there be bikes on that there telly on th'Internet. Eurosport Player's non commentary version is on, tennis should be done in 10 mins or so0 -
They've pulled back 24 seconds in 9 kms whilst the front group have gone through a feed zone.
They are stuffed!0 -
frenchfighter wrote:It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
no it isn't.. its infiltrating a break on mass with your team mates and then riding
you know... something different from the usual W/KG feast"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Good to see the weather is better here in blighty then out there for once.
Are there 5 Sky riders in the break?0 -
intothe12 wrote:RichN95 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
But it's their teams that have been doing most of the riding on the front.
It seems incredible that the team leaders in teh front group dont all go hell for leather. the GC is more important than the stage...if they started working, you could get that lead up to 20 mins
yeah they need to watch each other in the break race with in a race... towards the end they should start firing"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
BTW - how many cycling sites will be tactless enough to tie in the natural disaster that hit this region in April 2009 to the 'earthquake' that was stage 11?0
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frenchfighter wrote:Here we go:
The guys who stand the most to gain don't even have to work for their lead over the other GC riders. Hence why I consider them gifted so to speak.There's collaboration between Caisse, Cervelo, Sky and Saxo Bank in the lead group. Arroyo, Sastre and Tondo, Wiggins, and Porte are all sitting back in the group saving their biscuits for later in the stage.
It's not like they put their nose in the wind with 5 other guys and carved out a lead or attacked at the base of a climb and got 3 mins.
But as another poster said, someone had to do the gifting. The teams of the current GC leaders let that group get nearly 18 minutes, knowing full well who was in it and what it meant. Seems a bit harsh to criticise them for taking advantage of another team's tactical mistake."We're not holding up traffic. We are traffic."0
