Giro Stage 11 *spoiler*

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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    from cycling news. If the stage stopped right now, here is the new GC:

    1 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 00:00:00
    2 David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 00:01:56
    3 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Liquigas-Doimo 00:01:59
    4 Valerio Agnoli (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 00:02:52
    5 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:04:08
    6 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 00:05:30
    7 Laurent Didier (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 00:05:35
    8 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 5:48
    9 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:07:33
    10 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 00:08:28

    From those ten there's only Wiggins, Sastre and Arroyo proven over three weeks, so I'd say they're the main long term threats

    And Arroyo would have a good fair chunk of time over the other 2
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    looks like the gap is down to 12mins now..
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  • thomasmc
    thomasmc Posts: 814
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    So one sloppy day of racing really could mess up the whole Giro and give us a very unexpected winner. I'm off to make a bet..... 8)

    Haha, good point - there could be some cheap punts out there if the bookies are not clued up on what is happening at the moment in the stage.

    Arroyo currently available at 20/1. Good each way bet!
  • intothe12
    intothe12 Posts: 190
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    from cycling news. If the stage stopped right now, here is the new GC:

    1 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 00:00:00
    2 David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 00:01:56
    3 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Liquigas-Doimo 00:01:59
    4 Valerio Agnoli (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 00:02:52
    5 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:04:08
    6 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 00:05:30
    7 Laurent Didier (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 00:05:35
    8 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 5:48
    9 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:07:33
    10 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 00:08:28

    From those ten there's only Wiggins, Sastre and Arroyo proven over three weeks, so I'd say they're the main long term threats

    Wiggans proven? give me a break.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    The maglia rosa group is absolutely tiny.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    The gap is only coming down because the lead group are climbing at the moment.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Can't see Tondo losing 10 minutes in the mountains so I'd say he would be the biggest threat - could potentially open up more time in the hills!
  • csp
    csp Posts: 777
    Maglia rosa group at 12:50
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    afx237vi wrote:
    The maglia rosa group is absolutely tiny.

    You can see where the big tanks are. When the real GC guys get down to it, they can take a lot of time out of people.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    BTW - from Shane Stoke's twitter:

    "Apparently, the race jury didn't communicate the break's advantage until it was already 8 minutes at the #Giro"


    Noe if they can only explain the other 9 minutes??
  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    The gap is only coming down because the lead group are climbing at the moment.
    No, that makes no difference at all.
    The gap is how long since the lead group were in the place where the chasing group is now.
    What the lead group are actually doing is neither here nor there.
    Even if the lead group stop the gap stays the same until the chase group catch up - as happens, for example, at the end of the stage.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    iainf72 wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    The maglia rosa group is absolutely tiny.

    You can see where the big tanks are. When the real GC guys get down to it, they can take a lot of time out of people.

    For 50 odd km?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    intothe12 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    from cycling news. If the stage stopped right now, here is the new GC:

    1 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 00:00:00
    2 David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 00:01:56
    3 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Liquigas-Doimo 00:01:59
    4 Valerio Agnoli (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 00:02:52
    5 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:04:08
    6 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 00:05:30
    7 Laurent Didier (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 00:05:35
    8 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 5:48
    9 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:07:33
    10 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 00:08:28

    From those ten there's only Wiggins, Sastre and Arroyo proven over three weeks, so I'd say they're the main long term threats

    Wiggans proven? give me a break.

    It says proven over 3 weeks, surely he has proven his ability to last 3 weeks and finsih quite high on GC? :?
  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    thomasmc wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    So one sloppy day of racing really could mess up the whole Giro and give us a very unexpected winner. I'm off to make a bet..... 8)

    Haha, good point - there could be some cheap punts out there if the bookies are not clued up on what is happening at the moment in the stage.

    Arroyo currently available at 20/1. Good each way bet!

    Where?
    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • intothe12
    intothe12 Posts: 190
    Pross wrote:
    intothe12 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    from cycling news. If the stage stopped right now, here is the new GC:

    1 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 00:00:00
    2 David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 00:01:56
    3 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Liquigas-Doimo 00:01:59
    4 Valerio Agnoli (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 00:02:52
    5 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:04:08
    6 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 00:05:30
    7 Laurent Didier (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 00:05:35
    8 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 5:48
    9 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:07:33
    10 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 00:08:28

    From those ten there's only Wiggins, Sastre and Arroyo proven over three weeks, so I'd say they're the main long term threats

    Wiggans proven? give me a break.

    It says proven over 3 weeks, surely he has proven his ability to last 3 weeks and finsih quite high on GC? :?

    Once, this is his chance to actually prove it.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    BTW - from Shane Stoke's twitter:

    "Apparently, the race jury didn't communicate the break's advantage until it was already 8 minutes at the #Giro"


    Noe if they can only explain the other 9 minutes??

    Surely the teams support staff would have noticed a gap of that size? Especially those teams that had a rider in both the break and the main group?

    I was all keen to put in a concerted effort in work today - that's now gone out of the window!!!
  • thomasmc
    thomasmc Posts: 814
    AidanR wrote:
    thomasmc wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    So one sloppy day of racing really could mess up the whole Giro and give us a very unexpected winner. I'm off to make a bet..... 8)

    Haha, good point - there could be some cheap punts out there if the bookies are not clued up on what is happening at the moment in the stage.

    Arroyo currently available at 20/1. Good each way bet!

    Where?

    Ha ha, changed in last few minutes. Porte odds shortened as well

    http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports ... win-market
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    Apparently it's snowing at the finish??
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Hats off to the domestiques. This stage is theirs. No other sport rivals this one.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    intothe12 wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    intothe12 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    SpaceJunk wrote:
    from cycling news. If the stage stopped right now, here is the new GC:

    1 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 00:00:00
    2 David Arroyo Duran (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 00:01:56
    3 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Liquigas-Doimo 00:01:59
    4 Valerio Agnoli (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 00:02:52
    5 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:04:08
    6 Alexander Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 00:05:30
    7 Laurent Didier (Lux) Team Saxo Bank 00:05:35
    8 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) Team Milram 5:48
    9 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 00:07:33
    10 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Professional Cycling Team 00:08:28

    From those ten there's only Wiggins, Sastre and Arroyo proven over three weeks, so I'd say they're the main long term threats

    Wiggans proven? give me a break.

    It says proven over 3 weeks, surely he has proven his ability to last 3 weeks and finsih quite high on GC? :?

    Once, this is his chance to actually prove it.

    Ah right, once is a fluke?

    I ran a half marathon to prove I could do it. Luckily I've done a second since so it is now proven beyond reasonable doubt. :wink:

    I'm not saying he's likely to be in with a chance but I think he's proven to be capable of finishing a 3 week race.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Hats off to the domestiques. This stage is theirs. No other sport rivals this one.

    Like pretty much any other stage then really :roll:
  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    Pross wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Hats off to the domestiques. This stage is theirs. No other sport rivals this one.
    Like pretty much any other stage then really :roll:
    I'm as quick as the rest of us to jump at FF BUT maybe he didn't mean they are going to win the stage, but rather that they have bossed the stage. That is unusual in a way that winning wouldn't be.
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    wtf is wrong with Europe's weather at the moment ? It's been cold and rainy for days and I am off shortly......

    Wonder if it's falling as snow in the Dolomites....
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    12'54". Gone out by 4 seconds.
  • ketsbaia
    ketsbaia Posts: 1,718
    That gap ain't coming down in a hurry, is it?
    One more gear

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    le patron wrote:
    wtf is wrong with Europe's weather at the moment ? It's been cold and rainy for days and I am off shortly......

    Wonder if it's falling as snow in the Dolomites....

    Apparently not

    http://www.dolomitesworld.com/meteo/weather_south_tyrol.asp
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    le patron wrote:
    wtf is wrong with Europe's weather at the moment ? It's been cold and rainy for days and I am off shortly......

    Wonder if it's falling as snow in the Dolomites....

    Something to do with the gulf stream i believe.. 8)
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    ketsbaia wrote:
    That gap ain't coming down in a hurry, is it?

    For the past 10 km it's been Caisse d'Epargne and Sky vs Rubens Bertogliati.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I mean that the glory is theirs. The time is so large because of them not because the GC guys have made an effort worthy of earning a great position. No accolades from me to GC runners gaining ridiculous time here. They have the time and that's done - hopefully they will go for broke in the stages that matter to come and conserve or increase their lead.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Those GC contenders need to start riding because B'tog vs Caisse and Sky wont work
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm

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