Giro Stage 11 *spoiler*

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  • Team Banana Spokesman
    Team Banana Spokesman Posts: 538
    top 30 GC after st.11?

    can only find top 8......?
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Gazzetta has the standings

    http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Girodit ... shtml?t=11

    Last group today finished 46 minutes back...

    Good effort by Bakelandts - fell off but still finished only 7 seconds back.

    Bobridge is last again now overall - 2 hours 23 minutes back.
  • Team Banana Spokesman
    Team Banana Spokesman Posts: 538
    omg!

    Sastre and Wiggo are suddenly the favourites now! ?

    good giro this. have no idea what's coming next!
  • Neil McC
    Neil McC Posts: 625
    Cumulonimbus wrote:

    http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Girodit ... shtml?t=11

    Top 30 GC

    1 PORTE Richie AUS SAX 45:30:16 0:00
    2 ARROYO DURAN David ESP GCE 45:31:58 1:42
    3 KISERLOVSKI Robert CRO LIQ 45:32:12 1:56
    4 TONDO VOLPINI Xavier ESP CTT 45:34:10 3:54
    5 AGNOLI Valerio ITA LIQ 45:34:57 4:41
    6 EFIMKIN Alexander RUS ALM 45:35:32 5:16
    7 GERDEMANN Linus GER MRM 45:35:50 5:34
    8 SASTRE CANDIL Carlos ESP CTT 45:37:25 7:09
    9 DIDIER Laurent LUX SAX 45:37:40 7:24
    10 WIGGINS Bradley GBR SKY 45:38:30 8:14
    11 BAKELANDTS Jan BEL OLO 45:38:51 8:35
    12 VINOKOUROV Alexandre KAZ AST 45:40:14 9:58
    13 EVANS Cadel AUS BMC 45:41:26 11:10
    14 NIBALI Vincenzo ITA LIQ 45:41:44 11:28
    15 BASSO Ivan ITA LIQ 45:42:05 11:49
    16 PINOTTI Marco ITA THR 45:42:31 12:15
    17 DE GREEF Francis BEL OLO 45:42:37 12:21
    18 KARPETS Vladimir RUS KAT 45:42:48 12:32
    19 GARZELLI Stefano ITA ASA 45:42:58 12:42
    20 CUNEGO Damiano ITA LAM 45:43:19 13:03
    21 SCARPONI Michele ITA AND 45:43:20 13:04
    22 CATALDO Dario ITA QST 45:43:38 13:22
    23 PETROV Evgeni RUS KAT 45:45:50 15:34
    24 MOLLEMA Bauke NED RAB 45:46:19 16:03
    25 MAYOZ ECHEVERRIA Iban ESP FOT 45:46:30 16:14
    26 WEENING Pieter NED RAB 45:47:54 17:38
    27 ARDILA CANO Mauricio Alberto COL RAB 45:49:03 18:47
    28 MILLAR David GBR GRM 45:49:04 18:48
    29 SERPA PEREZ Jose Rodolfo COL AND 45:51:01 20:45
    30 CIONI Dario David ITA SKY 45:51:24 21:08
  • Richrd2205
    Richrd2205 Posts: 1,267
    What a day to return to work after 2 weeks off. Having had the misfortune to have sat through yesterday's stage, I then missed this one. & will miss the highlights too....
    What a race! I was quite disappointed after all the Dutch stages appeared to remove several GC contenders from the reckoning, but today's stage appears to have offset that a bit and things could go any number of ways. So different to (& so much better than) the TdF was last year & is likely to be again this year. I really like that the ToC has taken away lots of the big teams' big guns, it's making the race so much less predictable.
    Really looking forward to the mountains now!
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Richrd2205 wrote:
    What a day to return to work after 2 weeks off. Having had the misfortune to have sat through yesterday's stage, I then missed this one. & will miss the highlights too....
    What a race! I was quite disappointed after all the Dutch stages appeared to remove several GC contenders from the reckoning, but today's stage appears to have offset that a bit and things could go any number of ways. So different to (& so much better than) the TdF was last year & is likely to be again this year. I really like that the ToC has taken away lots of the big teams' big guns, it's making the race so much less predictable.
    Really looking forward to the mountains now!

    Ya dint miss much Rich to be honest is was boring as hell due to the weather. However, the shock of the break being let go did make it an incredible situation. I'm stunned :shock: at just how the favourites could let this happen. Crazy.

    Has 90% of the PTP faves just gone out the window?

    Will make for an exciting race mind you. Bring it on!!
  • thamacdaddy
    thamacdaddy Posts: 590
    FF time to hold you hands up on this one whenever sastre or more specifically Wiggins and sky have messed up a little in the past you jump on their backs calling them lightweights....gonna use the same tag on vino et al?

    Also you know everyone is criticizing BMC for being weak well from the tour of cali it's clear that's where they have their strongest guys. I expect Evans knows they will be with him for the tour but not sure he is focusing on it this year, be a toughie against the guys lining up for it.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Moomaloid wrote:
    Has 90% of the PTP faves just gone out the window?
    I'd expect Evans and Vino to climb back up the GC, some riders will find it hard to hold on and I suspect the third week will prove fatal for some.
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Not sure if its been mentioned earlier but there were three Astanas amongst the DNFers today. Think there was mention of some not finishing but three is pretty bad for Vino's hopes.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/93rd-g ... 11/results

    Two BMCers went too, the most notable being Santambroglio who was to be Cadel's main helper in the mountains.

    Briton Adam Blythe called it a day too. Being only 20 i suppose he was always likely to be pulled out around now. Hope that's the reason rather than injury/illness. He had a 5th place back on stage 3.

    Down from 198 to 171 in the first half of the race.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Kléber wrote:
    Moomaloid wrote:
    Has 90% of the PTP faves just gone out the window?
    I'd expect Evans and Vino to climb back up the GC, some riders will find it hard to hold on and I suspect the third week will prove fatal for some.

    I suspect the guys who held the top 4 this morning will climb well up again. We've had 1 mountain top finish and that wasn't even that tough. Most of the damage in this race has been done by wind, crashes and misfortune.

    Evans et al can take 5 minutes out of a lot of the people ahead of them in one stage. And when you look at it, Sastre only has 3 minutes on them

    But it's up to Vino and Evans to attack. There are so many savagely hard days there will be a lot of change.

    I won't even be surprised to see someone throw it down tomorrow.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I wonder who Cadel blames

    http://twitter.com/CadelOfficial/status/14305362525

    :wink:
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    so who is saying what about what happened?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    thamacdaddy wrote:

    Also you know everyone is criticizing BMC for being weak well from the tour of cali it's clear that's where they have their strongest guys.

    Yeah, Big George and his gang are really tearing up the field. :roll:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    thamacdaddy wrote:

    Also you know everyone is criticizing BMC for being weak well from the tour of cali it's clear that's where they have their strongest guys.

    Yeah, Big George and his gang are really tearing up the field. :roll:


    which really reinforces the issue


    its not like being 1:34 down on GC is any use publicity wise stateside
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    iainf72 wrote:
    I wonder who Cadel blames

    http://twitter.com/CadelOfficial/status/14305362525

    :wink:
    That didn't take long, I was wondering how he'd react this evening. Clearly he could have chased and the same goes for other teams. I watched the TV coverage and as the Gazzetta feed came on, they showed early footage from the race. Vino was right at the back of the race, peeling off some layers of clothing when things went ballistic. A mistake perhaps but that explains why Astana went back to haul him back to the bunch - at one time the race was fractured into many groups - and did not chase.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    I've just carried out a thought experiment: to put Wiggo in pink at the start of the day. Now, what would be the reaction here to today's events I wonder...
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Lack of patron is telling. They really needed someone early today to say "tranquilo, tranquilo".
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    DaveyL wrote:
    I've just carried out a thought experiment: to put Wiggo in pink at the start of the day. Now, what would be the reaction here to today's events I wonder...

    Can I go?

    "Oh FFS, useless bunch of twits don't know anything about cycling. I'm surprised they haven't started falling off yet"

    The first part was my reaction to Ass-tanner too.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • stagehopper
    stagehopper Posts: 1,593
    Pinotti's reaction:

    http://twitter.com/marcopinotti/status/14306111175

    "Revolution at the Giro. Too bad I was only a spectator. Everyones was watching one each other and in 10 kms race was already over..."
    @stagehopper
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Here's the time loses of the guys in the top 10 in the Terminillo stage. I've excluded Sastre as we know he can climb with the very best

    Porte 28s
    Arroyo 54s
    Kiserlovski 20s
    Agnoli 1:04
    Efimkim 1:04
    Gerdemann :6+ mins

    And I don't think the faves were going all out. So there will be some significant damage this weekend I expect.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andylav
    andylav Posts: 308
    edited May 2010
    Some reports from Italy suggesting that Evans was sick during the night.

    Vino as well according to RAI at some point.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Both of them will definitely be sick tonight!
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    On the one hand these riders sat up, knowing there wasn't a jersey to win or lose. But at the same time the likes of Vino, Evans, Basso, Cungego etc didn't push the pace too much. Nibali and Scarponi tried a move each but not convincingly. Only Tondo rode away.

    One way or another we'll find about about Porte soon.
  • thamacdaddy
    thamacdaddy Posts: 590
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    thamacdaddy wrote:

    Also you know everyone is criticizing BMC for being weak well from the tour of cali it's clear that's where they have their strongest guys.

    Yeah, Big George and his gang are really tearing up the field. :roll:

    That's not the point in terms of GC, but if you watch the coverage and not just look at results, then there are always BMC in the climbs etc. With those guys in the Giro then probably Cadel would have some actual support and these kinds of breaks probably wouldn't happen the same.

    I am not saying they are strong by any means but they are not all out worst of the lot, and could do a half decent job with the right GC guy, but it's all theory I guess until it gets tested.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    dunno howto do the whole twitter link thing
    so two quotes from some chicks twitter

    http://twitter.com/ChiaraPasserini


    "Vino with teeth-chattering (correct?) - RAI said they think he's sick"

    "Interview with Vino,he could barely talk,poor him. "The Giro is still long, 10 more days of racing" that's what he said"

    E2a: This is Evans's squeeze isn't it?
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Wife, yes
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Not one to post pictures usually but

    giro_2010_st_11_EVANS_FINISH.jpg
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Sastre:
    http://www.carlossastre.com/sastre_en/i ... &Itemid=55

    Nothing revealing.

    Cadel should have info on his site:
    http://www.cadelevans.com.au/cadelsdiary.aspx
    Contador is the Greatest
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    And the Giro hasn't properly started yet...... I really wonder how many will be at the finish...
    All the talk is about the Zoncolan and PLan Corones, but the real time differences witll be in made on the Mortirolo and Gavia stages..
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    FJS wrote:
    And the Giro hasn't properly started yet...... I really wonder how many will be at the finish...
    All the talk is about the Zoncolan and PLan Corones, but the real time differences witll be in made on the Mortirolo and Gavia stages..

    Indeed. In fact what should have been the key stage so far has been one of the duller ones.


    On a completely different note, I see on the Sky Sports News ticker, it's Russia's Evgeni Petrov, Australia's Richie Porte, but Team Sky's Bradley Wiggins.
    Twitter: @RichN95

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