Pro Tour Pundit 2010
Hello and welcome to Pro Tour Pundit 2010 - the 5th annual edition of everyone's favourite pro cycling prediction game.
How To Play
Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.
The rules of the game are simple too. A few days before each of the races listed below, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a start list of riders and some other info like the race map, relevant links, past winners and so on. Just consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.
As you play, your scores will be totted up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread. Take a look below for the scoring system.
2010 Calendar
As usual, there has been a bit of a rejig with the calendar this year. The Tour of California and the Critérium International have been dropped and we have added the E3 Prijs and Scheldeprijs to the Spring programme and the two Canadian one-dayers to the late season.
Points System
Same as last year.
Past Winners
Still no-one has managed to win the overall title more than once. Andyp almost managed it last year, but was just pipped by FJS in a thrilling finalé. Also, check out GroupOfOne's amazing consistency!
That's it. Have a good season everyone!
How To Play
Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.
The rules of the game are simple too. A few days before each of the races listed below, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a start list of riders and some other info like the race map, relevant links, past winners and so on. Just consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.
As you play, your scores will be totted up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread. Take a look below for the scoring system.
2010 Calendar
As usual, there has been a bit of a rejig with the calendar this year. The Tour of California and the Critérium International have been dropped and we have added the E3 Prijs and Scheldeprijs to the Spring programme and the two Canadian one-dayers to the late season.
Feb 27 - Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
Mar 6 - Monte Pasche Eroica
7-14 - Paris-Nice
10-16 - Tirreno-Adriatico
20 - Milan-San Remo
27 - E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
28 - Gent-Wevelgem
Apr 4 - Tour of Flanders
5-10 - Tour of the Basque Country
7 - Scheldeprijs
11 - Paris-Roubaix
18 - Amstel Gold Race
21 - La Fleche Wallone
25 - Liege-Bastogne-Liege
27-2 - Tour de Romandie
May 8-30 - Giro d'Italia
Jun 6-13 - Dauphiné Libéré
12-20 - Tour de Suisse
Jul 3-25 - Tour de France
31 - Clasica San Sebastian
Aug 1-7 - Tour of Poland
15 - Vattenfall Cyclassics
17-24 - Eneco Tour
28-19 - Vuelta a Espana
Sep 10 - GP de Québec
12 - GP de Montréal
29 - Worlds ITT (Women)
30 - Worlds ITT (Men)
Oct 2 - Worlds RR (Women)
3 - Worlds RR (Men)
10 - Paris-Tours
17 - Giro di Lombardia
Points System
Same as last year.
TdF = Tour de France / G/V = Giro/Vuelta / Reg = Regular season
GC and one-day winners:
TdF | G/V | Reg
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1 | 100 | 85 | 50 |
2 | 75 | 65 | 40 |
3 | 60 | 50 | 35 |
4 | 55 | 45 | 30 |
5 | 50 | 40 | 25 |
6 | 45 | 35 | 20 |
7 | 40 | 30 | 15 |
8 | 35 | 26 | 10 |
9 | 30 | 22 | 5 |
10 | 25 | 19 | 2 |
11 | 20 | 16 | |
12 | 15 | 13 | |
13 | 12 | 11 | |
14 | 10 | 9 | |
15 | 8 | 7 | |
16 | 6 | 5 | |
17 | 5 | 4 | |
18 | 4 | 3 | |
19 | 3 | 2 | |
20 | 2 | 1 | |
Stage winners:
TdF | G/V | Reg
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1 | 12 | 10 | 6 |
2 | 10 | 8 | 5 |
3 | 8 | 6 | 4 |
4 | 7 | 5 | 3 |
5 | 6 | 4 | 2 |
6 | 5 | 3 | 1 |
7 | 4 | 2 | |
8 | 3 | 1 | |
9 | 2 | | |
10 | 1 | | |
Past Winners
Still no-one has managed to win the overall title more than once. Andyp almost managed it last year, but was just pipped by FJS in a thrilling finalé. Also, check out GroupOfOne's amazing consistency!
2006 2007
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1. mangaman 817 1. andyp 723
2. Dave_1 769 2. andrewgturnbull 687
3. yace 737 3. yace 679
4. iainf72 692 4. mangaman 631
5. Timoid 668 5. laurence 607
6. andrewgturnbull 665 6. afx237vi 599
7. MarkM 621 7. Noodley 592
8. RichN95 568 8. GroupOfOne 589
9. afx237vi 561 9. Stephen Sorba 580
10. GroupOfOne 549 10. Greggyr 573
2008 2009
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1. Richrd2205 977 1. FJS 1403
2. thomasmc 922 2. andyp 1401
3. paul27 884 3. Kléber 1388
4. redddragon 873 4. thomasmc 1364
5. Bronzie 848 5. Bronzie 1307
6. andyp 837 6. graham56 1305
7. Greggyr 823 7. mididoctors 1297
8. GroupOfOne 816 8. scwxx77 1287
9. scwxx77 814 9. alanmcn1 1195
10. LangerDan 800 10. GroupOfOne 1186
That's it. Have a good season everyone!
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Comments
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Woohoo!"A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
PTP Runner Up 20150 -
Can't wait for HN! Although I fear another season of disappointment...___________________
Strava is not Zen.0 -
Been hanging for this since it finished last year. Intresting that the ToC is out leaves may rather bare expect the Giro was there a reason i thought this year we might get a different winner which would have been good for PTPTake care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.0
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Oh no. More time spent scanning Cycling Quotient, checking weather forecasts and sifting results, not to mention the nerves during a race, a few times last year it didn't matter who won a race, it was where my PTP pick finished relative to the others that mattered!
I'm in 8)0 -
First Time Pundit!
Can't wait to get started
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Look on the bright side, you're guaranteed a place on a French team for the rest of your career.
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can I get on the podium... have I the emotional energy to invest in this event?
can be draining at times
guess so..."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
mididoctors wrote:can I get on the podium... have I the emotional energy to invest in this event?
can be draining at times
guess so...
There's nothing worse than the gut wrenching feeling I get as I zoom across France on a TGV the way to a conference.. and realise I've forgotten to post a stage pick.
Or God forbid, for GC :shock:___________________
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Bring it on. Hopefully i will remember to compete in every event this year
Thanks for doing this again afx.0 -
Past Winners
Still no-one has managed to win the overall title more than once. Andyp almost managed it last year, but was just pipped by FJS in a thrilling finalé. Also, check out GroupOfOne's amazing consistency!
In light of some of the opinons on here, perhaps we should be asking what he is on ? :?
Thanks for taking this on again AFX -king of the spreadsheets. i'm looking forward to my occasional inspirational picks!'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
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Ms Tree wrote:Also, check out GroupOfOne's amazing consistency!
In light of some of the opinons on here, perhaps we should be asking what he is on ? :?
Just think of me as Francisco Mancebo, floating around the top ten but not winning anything...oh wait, perhaps that wasn't the best example...0 -
Gonna have my first go! Obviously I have no chance against the experts (one in particular) 0
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Pross wrote:Gonna have my first go! Obviously I have no chance against the experts (one in particular)
Is that me? It's me isn't it? Flattery will get you nowhere, though. Cash, on the other hand...
First race is done with. Stefrees takes an early lead, being the only person to pick Flecha for Het Nieuwsblad. Here's the top 20.
Overall scores after Het NieuwsbladName Score --------------------------- 1 stefrees 50 2 Allez Mark 40 3 bring_back_jan 40 4 gattocattivo 40 5 jimmerslimmer 40 6 Moomaloid 40 7 Woosha 40 8 alanmcn1 20 9 Art Vandelay 20 10 BenBlyth 20 11 camerone 20 12 FransJacques 20 13 HenryS 20 14 incog24 20 15 ironman595 20 16 josame 20 17 jp1985 20 18 Kléber 20 19 Neil McC 20 20 oscarbudgie 20
Full listings: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... H9XP77AbaA
You only get in the PTP GC if you score some points, otherwise it would be huuuuuuge.
Next races: Eroica (March 6th) & Paris-Nice (Mar 7-14)0 -
can i retire?0
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stefrees wrote:can i retire?
My first ever PTP pick was Cancellara to win in Roubaix, which he duly did. It's been a horrible downhill slope since then. I should have quit there and then.
I've also thought of an idea for PTP. Unique picks should score double points. It encourages maverick choices and not the usual Boonen/Cav/Contador safe picks. What Frenchfighter would call panche and style.
Bit late for this year, but I won't remember this tomorrow, let alone in December, so I'm putting it down here as a permenant record for future consideration.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Stefrees' reign at the top was rather short lived
Another n00b takes his place this week, with bring_back_jan holding a 10 pt lead.
Overall scores after Eroica:Name Score ----------------------------- 1 bring_back_jan 70 2 ironman595 60 3 Neil McC 60 4 Richrd2205 60 5 Kléber 50 6 oscarbudgie 50 7 Pross 50 8 SecretSquirrel 50 9 stanislav 50 10 stefrees 50 11 Allez Mark 40 12 Cheshire_Cat 40 13 Cumulonimbus 40 14 FJS 40 15 gattocattivo 40 16 graham56 40 17 guinea 40 18 jimmerslimmer 40 19 millar time 40 20 Moomaloid 40
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short lived from me too after a shocking P-N prologue pick!!!Music and Bikes and Alligators
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Wow, I'm going OK - I'm ahead of French Fighter, I must really know my stuff 0
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bring_back_jan wrote:short lived from me too after a shocking P-N prologue pick!!!
Nope, you're still in the lead, although going by the provisional Tirreno scores, only for a couple more days.
Overall scores after Paris-NiceName Score --------------------------- 1 bring_back_jan 129 2 Neil McC 120 3 Kléber 118 4 Richrd2205 116 5 ironman595 114 6 FJS 113 7 stefrees 111 8 oscarbudgie 108 9 Cumulonimbus 105 10 SecretSquirrel 105 11 NicFrance 104 12 slapshot 104 13 gattocattivo 103 14 thomasmc 103 15 stagehopper 101 16 graham56 100 17 Allez Mark 99 18 Cheshire_Cat 96 19 guinea 96 20 millar time 96
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Four races in and the top of the GC is starting to look rather familiar...
Overall scores after Tirreno-AdriaticoName Score --------------------------- 1 FJS 166 2 stagehopper 154 3 ironman595 153 4 Kléber 148 5 thomasmc 145 6 Allez Mark 143 7 bring_back_jan 138 8 guinea 135 9 Woosha 134 10 Neil McC 132 11 millar time 131 12 NicFrance 125 13 stanislav 123 14 Richrd2205 123 15 Moomaloid 121 16 stefrees 121 17 Rhods 119 18 Cumulonimbus 119 19 gattocattivo 116 20 iainf72 113
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Not even top-20. I'm still cursing that Nuyens puncture in HN :roll:___________________
Strava is not Zen.0 -
FJS is fair steaming ahead. He'll be a tough man to catch.0
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Iain, well done, you're ahead of Percival now!Le Blaireau (1)0
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"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Oh my god!!!!!!!!! I've started like Cav. A repeat of my top 10 is already looking bleak...........Robert Millar for knighthood0
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As a PTP rookie I was chuffed beyond belief at my top twenty placing
I think I should now let my heart rule my head. If I had chosen me new fave (Big MIglinsky delivered the goods at Eroica ) for every stage of T-A and the GC, I would have scored far more points than I did (1 miserable point :evil: ) with my, ever so, carefully considered picks. :?
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See?
If I had followed my own advise I could have had another 10 points for MSR :roll:
Chose the wrong Astana boy (Gasparotto) didn't I.........................doh!0 -
Hi there
Cheers for taking the time to do all of this afx, bearing that in mind i feel a bit cheeky for asking but i was just wondering why the Volta a Catalunya isnt included as it is a ProTour event?0 -
Cumulonimbus wrote:Hi there
Cheers for taking the time to do all of this afx, bearing that in mind i feel a bit cheeky for asking but i was just wondering why the Volta a Catalunya isnt included as it is a ProTour event?
I think it was in the first one or two PTPs, but it was up against the Giro, and there was no TV coverage, so got fewer people playing. After a couple of years the "Pro Tour" part of "Pro Tour Pundit" kinda went by the wayside.0
