Carbon Bars

hopper1

Just received the email below, etc....

From: PriceShaggers <priceshaggers@googlemail.com>
To: paul lewis
Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 11:47:13
Subject: Re: Zipp SL145 Stem 120mm 26.0 clamp

Hi Paul,


I understand your frustration and I apologise. We have recently introduced a new system to manage eBay and you receive an email automatically once payment has cleared. In theory, in line with our same day dispatch standard, there should be no discrepancies.


In light of the damaged stock being identified, items weren't dispatched despite you receiving an automated email to the contrary. Unfortunately due to last week's warehouse move, a backlog of orders meant that this wasn't flagged until after the weekend.


It really isn't a case of like it or lump it, we strive to provide you the best possible prices on quality bike kit and back it up with good customer service.


I hope this explains the situation a bit more clearly.


Best Regards,


Matt

Here is my response to the poor excuse of automated emails...

Really Matt....

Had it been a case of being an 'automated' email response, I could have understood it a little better, but I can't see how it was...
I quote from your initial mail:

Hi Paul,
Very sorry, just picking this up now. You're item has already been shipped.
Can you give me a message to pass on to the couriers such as 'leave with a neighbour'.
Worst case, it will be returned to us and dispatched again at a later date.
Thanks,
Matt


This was received after I had emailed you asking to delay the despatch of my stem, and unless your 'automated' service can read & comprehend emails, then come up with a fitting reply, I very much doubt it was 'automated'!

I look forward to your response.


Kind regards,



Paul

Not too impressed, thus far... :roll:

appletrees

Same issue too with my stem from Planet X - seems like a monumental cock up to me, and it's the third time in a row I've had probs with them.

If you need a 26.0 stem, Wiggle are doing 2007 Ritchey WCS 120mms for £35ish, which is what I've gone for instead. 110grams apparently. They had over 10 left last night, and they seem to be able to manage stock control accurately.

Anonymous

Got my tape, tyres and chain from ribble yesterday so I will sort out my ride and post pics...

hopper1

Nice one, appletrees... I just ordered the Ritchey stem!

appletrees

No worries, as it was indeed your goodself who alerted me to the bars...

hopper1

Ah... yes...
Got an email to say despatched.... Should I wait for one to tell me that I've been refunded, as it was damaged...

galatzo

Got my bars yesterday and managed to fit them before the wife got home.
Unfortunately the only stem I had in a 26.0 was 6cm and looks quite stupid (I normally use a 10 or 11) not to mention the drops sweep back half way down the tube.
Have a 3TTT Forgie on it's way from Ebay as we type.
I manged to re-use my existing Specialized tape and it is a bit thick, particularly on the bend just before the ergo's.
Down to the LBS tonight to see what they have instead.
First impressions are good especially the 3 finger bit.
Fingers crossed for the weekend weather.

redddraggon

I might sell my 110mm Zipp Stem+Bars, Spanielsson will get first refusal.

Anonymous

Now taped in silver Fizik Microtex.

Goes well with the new saddle.

Also fitted the brand new 320TPI Open Paves and a KMC Ti N chain. Looks Da Bom. Proper pics tomorrow.

hopper1

:roll: Still not sure about the ends of the bar shape.
Looks like they were designed to stop shopping bags from falling off!
I'll have to wait until I get home...

Leesykoi

NapoleonD wrote:

Now taped in silver Fizik Microtex.

Goes well with the new saddle.

Also fitted the brand new 320TPI Open Paves and a KMC Ti N chain. Looks Da Bom. Proper pics tomorrow.

Have not fitted mine yet (waiting for new stem), can't wait for the NapD pics....

Anonymous

Went out for a 5 hr ride today on the new set up.

The bars are fantastic, so bloody comfy. Those funny bits on the end are actually a really comfy extra place to hold! However, I have smll hands and anyone with big hands won't get on with the drops at all IMO.

KMC chain is :shock: Sooooo much better than the Shimano ones.

One surprise was the saddle. Never tried an Arione before. Perhaps going out for 5 hours on a saddle I've never tried before is not a particularly good idea. I'm normally an Aliante man. However, I'm a convert. Really comfy.

Tyres were fab, really confidence inspiring in the wet. I was a big fan of the last iteration of the Vittoria Open Paves so I'm well chuffed!

I now have a fast but very very comfortable winter/training bike!







Need to sort my garage door out but can't be bothered to paint it as we're hopefully getting a new one!!

rake

just interestsed in how the kmc is much better.

Anonymous

rake wrote:

just interestsed in how the kmc is much better.

Are you really? Genuinely? Or is it just one of your usual posts whereby you question people's buying decisions with a sarcastic comment?

Samson1

I'm genuinely interested to know..

Anonymous

Samson1 wrote:

I'm genuinely interested to know..

1 - Fitting/removal is by a very good link system rather than having to remove and replace a pin, it's a doddle! SRAM adopted the 'missing link' system too.

2 - Shifting is, IMO, better than with a shimano chain and miles better than SRAM.

cyclingpunk

Hmmm... do not tempt me! I was looking at chaning my Sram 1070 as I find it a little clunky.. wonder if this would sort it out :?

Anonymous

cyclingpunk wrote:

Hmmm... do not tempt me! I was looking at chaning my Sram 1070 as I find it a little clunky.. wonder if this would sort it out :?

It was 25 quid from Ribble

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... 0000000000

I bought a X10SL TiN to go on the best bike...

Slow Downcp

Had convinced myself that the silver/red Arione wouldn't match my Enigma, so resisted buying - not so sure now.

relanium

NapD all you need is one of these to go with your Bling Chain
http://clee-cycles.co.uk/cc/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24_74/products_id/143?osCsid=75908025600a6a376ee0c5bf3401328a

cyclingpunk

Ordered a X10SL TiN. Got a tenner off as ordered some look pedals for the new build. :roll:

redddraggon

NapoleonD wrote:

Went out for a 5 hr ride today on the new set up.

The bars are fantastic, so bloody comfy. Those funny bits on the end are actually a really comfy extra place to hold! However, I have smll hands and anyone with big hands won't get on with the drops at all IMO.

KMC chain is :shock: Sooooo much better than the Shimano ones.

One surprise was the saddle. Never tried an Arione before. Perhaps going out for 5 hours on a saddle I've never tried before is not a particularly good idea. I'm normally an Aliante man. However, I'm a convert. Really comfy.

Tyres were fab, really confidence inspiring in the wet. I was a big fan of the last iteration of the Vittoria Open Paves so I'm well chuffed!

I now have a fast but very very comfortable winter/training bike!







Need to sort my garage door out but can't be bothered to paint it as we're hopefully getting a new one!!

Zipp bars look better IMO

rake

NapoleonD wrote:

rake wrote:

just interestsed in how the kmc is much better.

Are you really? Genuinely? Or is it just one of your usual posts whereby you question people's buying decisions with a sarcastic comment?

nope. i want to know if its worth spending extra money when my 105 chain is finished. they are reasonably priced. i was looking at x10.93 or x10l

Anonymous

redddraggon wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

Went out for a 5 hr ride today on the new set up.

The bars are fantastic, so bloody comfy. Those funny bits on the end are actually a really comfy extra place to hold! However, I have smll hands and anyone with big hands won't get on with the drops at all IMO.

KMC chain is :shock: Sooooo much better than the Shimano ones.

One surprise was the saddle. Never tried an Arione before. Perhaps going out for 5 hours on a saddle I've never tried before is not a particularly good idea. I'm normally an Aliante man. However, I'm a convert. Really comfy.

Tyres were fab, really confidence inspiring in the wet. I was a big fan of the last iteration of the Vittoria Open Paves so I'm well chuffed!

I now have a fast but very very comfortable winter/training bike!







Need to sort my garage door out but can't be bothered to paint it as we're hopefully getting a new one!!

Zipp bars look better IMO

And in my opinion too. But the 3Ts are miles more comfortable...

Anonymous

rake wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

rake wrote:

just interestsed in how the kmc is much better.

Are you really? Genuinely? Or is it just one of your usual posts whereby you question people's buying decisions with a sarcastic comment?

nope. i want to know if its worth spending extra money when my 105 chain is finished. they are reasonably priced. i was looking at x10.93 or x10l

I highly recommend them.

redddraggon

NapoleonD wrote:

rake wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

rake wrote:

just interestsed in how the kmc is much better.

Are you really? Genuinely? Or is it just one of your usual posts whereby you question people's buying decisions with a sarcastic comment?

nope. i want to know if its worth spending extra money when my 105 chain is finished. they are reasonably priced. i was looking at x10.93 or x10l

I highly recommend them.

There's very little between Shimano and KMC chains TBH, Weirdly though KMC chains (except the SL) come up cheaper than Shimano chains and include the quick link.

galatzo

Anyone not like their 44cm and want to sell them ?
My mate went a shade of green when I told him how much they were !
He want's a pair now.

Just about to re-tape mine with some Bike Ribbon Eleganza, the used S-Works stuf is just a bit to phat.

Cheers

redddraggon

Definitely not bars for sprinting, everything was fine, except when out of the saddle in the drops, my wrists were getting bruised banging on the tops/hoods sort of area.

Anonymous

redddraggon wrote:

Definitely not bars for sprinting, everything was fine, except when out of the saddle in the drops, my wrists were getting bruised banging on the tops/hoods sort of area.

Fine for me (I had a go!) Only thing I was mindful of was the length of the drops and my knees but this wasn't a problem.

I think I suit compact bars very well!

galatzo

These are awful things to tape but the comfort makes up for it.
Took me best part of 2 hours trying to get the seams lined up with the Bike Ribbon Eleganza I used and then once past the hoods I realised it just isn't possible to keep it lined up all the way to the end. (re-using some Spesh tape wasn't too bad odly enough)
The Eleganza is really tacky and not sure yet I like it but there's no way I'm re-taping these again for a few months.
Arms do catch the tops a bit when using the drops but nothing to bad and the fact they make me use the drops more often outways this.
I agree with whoever wrote that they're not the prettiest but they are comfy and I'll be sticking with them for at least a month or two.
Oh yeah lacquer came away on the clamp area pretty easily on mine when setting up.
Forgie stem should arrive tomorrow to complete 3TTT set up.