240 miles in 9 hours.
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If you can do a 10 in under 20 mins, perhaps you could do 24 laps of the course, at 20 mins each
=> 8 hours
So, easy peasy !
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Clearly you are a good rider - but not world class ! Sounds like you can do the pace required - but for an hour. On a tt course. Not 9 hours - and going thru london is very far away from a tt course.
Its just not possible - try and alter the bet somehow to at least make it plausible ?0 -
Shavedlegs wrote:I've been Googling.
The road record for London to Bath and back is about 9 hours.
I'm trying to get the bet changed to that, as it close to my Dad's so in the heart of the original idea. Plus the distance is now 'only' 220 miles. Also I wouldn't mind having a record!
Still not possible. You would need to hold 25 MPH for the entire 9 hours. No stopping or even slowing down. Listen to what everyone is telling you. It can't be done. Anyone who gives you even a ray of hope hasn't done the math. 25 MPH FOR 9 HOURS. Of course if you have a full fairing, 100,000 dollar, 10 pound recumbent. But I'm assuming this is not the case and you will be on a standard TT bike. Although, lots of luck being on one of those for 9 hours. 0 -
12hr TT record is 300 miles ie 25mph,
Achieved by Glenn Longland and Andy Wilkinson on TT bikes on fast dragstrip courses with pro back up.
Mate- even if you are as good as you say you are, you are still nowhere near them and your route can't be nearly as flat as there TT course.
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Where is he?
He still hasn't come back to tell us where he did the sub 20! :shock:0 -
Go for it mate! I'm not sure that you'll do it - but don't listen to those people that are saying it's pointless, you'll have fun trying and will be a great achievement whatever time you do it in. :P'Pain is just weakness leaving your body'
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I think the general gist of the posts are that it's impossible for him to do it, not that its pointless0
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manofsteel wrote:Go for it mate! I'm not sure that you'll do it - but don't listen to those people that are saying it's pointless, you'll have fun trying and will be a great achievement whatever time you do it in. :P
It'd not be fun when he's at his limit and loosing power and then realising that he could be over 4 hours out or even worse not being able to complete it...0 -
Percy Vera wrote:I think the general gist of the posts are that it's impossible for him to do it, not that its pointless
It's probably as pointless, or not, as the guy who, years ago, rode a bike from San Francisco to LA with no saddle or seatpost. Go figure that one out. 0 -
You could always raise extra money by having a sweepstake on how much you'll fail by.
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Setting yourself up to fail so spectacularly is pretty pointless. That kind of effort can't be described as fun. Would anyone describe a sub hour "25" as fun ?0
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in 2006 i need a lifecycle , we crossed norway, sweden and finland in 10 days, my team had a very decent avg pace we took 10 hours to cross 220 km plus, keeping in mind some piss stops and eat( very imp). Total over 10 days 2200 km. Kit : Bianchi doss mtb with slick. It was fun and a mega charity ride.
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Probably better than seatpost but no saddle...dennisn wrote:...the guy who, years ago, rode a bike from San Francisco to LA with no saddle or seatpost. Go figure that one out.0 -
The posts here remind me of the arguement that led to the bet in the first place.
It is possible because someone set the record in 1981. Now I may not be able to break that record at the moment, but if I train for six months (or more) with this as my goal, why not?
People seem capable of breaking 4 hours in 100m TT's so I guess that is to be my intermediate goal. Shame there doesn't seem to a 100TT left to enter this year.
The first stage of my training will be riding in my aero position for 4 hours on Sunday morning. Every journey has a first step.
It can't be pointless because the charity gets its money one way or another.0 -
Personally it strikes me as one hell of a tough task but then I'm struggling with training for the Oxford to Cambridge If I can complete 90 miles in 6 hours I'll be chuffed so kinda puts your challenge into perspective :oops:
You're right though it's a win-win for the charity so go for it and best of luck!
For sure the endurance is not insurmountable but can imagine the speed will be tricky. I spoke to an ironman at my LBS and he averaged 23mph for the 112 mile section. At this rate you'd end up taking an additional 1 hour 26 minutes (not too shabby at all) but you may well be able to do better if your only focus is the bike.
Whether you manage it or not (and I would like to hear that you do) providing you focus on the training you will end up one hell of a cyclist so maybe it's win-win all round.0 -
If you have to negotiate London then even the pro-peloton could not do it with traffic lights & traffic!
My best time ever for a 10 mile commute (with 30+ sets of traffic lights) is 33 minutes. That was on dec 27th at 6am so quite possibly the quietest road conditions of the year.
That is an 18mph average, ok I am no record breaker, but getting another 10mph average on top of that is not going to be possible whilst......
a.) staying alive
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Shavedlegs wrote:The posts here remind me of the arguement that led to the bet in the first place.
It is possible because someone set the record in 1981. Now I may not be able to break that record at the moment, but if I train for six months (or more) with this as my goal, why not?
People seem capable of breaking 4 hours in 100m TT's so I guess that is to be my intermediate goal. Shame there doesn't seem to a 100TT left to enter this year.
The first stage of my training will be riding in my aero position for 4 hours on Sunday morning. Every journey has a first step.
It can't be pointless because the charity gets its money one way or another.
O.K. here's how you do it.
Find someone who will support you(monetarily) and quit your job. You won't have time for it.
Hire the very best coach you can find.
Sleep at least 10 hours a day.
Find a doctor that will put you on a drug program that works for you.
Get your divorce out of the way as soon as possible. You don't need any distractions.
And she will divorce you, mainly because you will have no job, do drugs, and are neglecting your family.
Get wind tunnel testing, and lots of it.
Spend at least 40,000 dollars on a bike.
As you are going to be doing this on the ROADS you will need police help with rolling roadblocks.
Have at least two following cars with trained mechanics, a chef, a friend who is willing,
and able, to smear your *ss with butt balm WHILE you ride, spare wheels, and a spare
40,000 dollar bike.
That should get you started. I still don't think, even with all that, that you could do it, but like I said, that will get you started.
Anyone else with more good tips?0 -
Since there aren't any 100 mile TTs then why not try to do London - Bath in 4 and 1/2 hours? Once you've done that then come back to this thread and people might start believing you have a hope of doing it both ways in 9 hours.More problems but still living....0
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Don't be such a drama queen Dennis
The records held by Andy Wilkinson were done on rather modest machinery, he doesn't do drugs and he didn't have rolling road blocks, or for that matter someone lubing his arse as he rode
I still don't think anyone can complete the originally proposed challenge as put forward by the OP though.0 -
Here's another record that may help put this into proper perspective.
Dan McGeHee did 100 ROAD miles in 3 hours and 56 minutes in 2007. So it looks like all you really have to do is what Dan did, except that you have to do it twice. So no problem, right? This then leaves you with a bit over an hour to COAST IN that last 20 miles. Sorry if I'm getting very sarcastic, but I can't help it. 0 -
dodgy wrote:Don't be such a drama queen Dennis
The records held by Andy Wilkinson were done on rather modest machinery, he doesn't do drugs and he didn't have rolling road blocks, or for that matter someone lubing his ars* as he rode
I still don't think anyone can complete the originally proposed challenge as put forward by the OP though.
I didn't start this "drama". I'm just having fun with it. 0 -
Just tell me where you did the sub 20 and I will be happy?? 0
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Percy Vera wrote:Just tell me where you did the sub 20 and I will be happy??
I doubt you will get an answer on that one. IF he did a sub 20 minute, 10 miler he would
have to have been on a pace to break the current hour record. 30 MPH +. And that was set on at a velodrome.0 -
:shock: Are you saying he might be telling porkies!!!! :shock:
What gave it away was the way he said, 'I do 10mile TT's in under 20mins and 25m TT's in under an hour at the moment'. Now if he can do a sub 20, then he should be able to do very low 50's for 25 - at least. If you can do low 50's for 25 you don't say I can do 25 in under an hour!
Maybe I'm wrong - if he comes back and proves he's done a sub 20 for 10 I will apologise.0 -
Percy Vera wrote::shock: Are you saying he might be telling porkies!!!! :shock:
Never heard it called that before(U.S. you know), but could be. I'm as shocked as you are. We've been duped. :shock: :shock:0 -
I think anyone that is regularly doing sub 20 minute 10s will have an implicit appreciation of what it takes to ride 240miles inside 9 hours, too. I'm surprised someone of that standard would bother asking in a public forum, would be better off approaching their team coach/management.0
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The record for a 12 hour TRACK TT is 286 miles by Marko Baloh - 20080
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mrushton wrote:That's a 400km audax distance, so ask the various audaxers what their times are for 400km. You could try a couple of 200km and a 300km audax to see how you get on.
A good time for a 300K Audax is 12 hours possibly 11.5 and I think a 400K Audax would come in at 16 hours. Alfreton CTC do a 300K and a 400K ride each year and they put in a time range on both rides at 12 - 25K per hour0 -
dodgy wrote:I think anyone that is regularly doing sub 20 minute 10s will have an implicit appreciation of what it takes to ride 240miles inside 9 hours, too. I'm surprised someone of that standard would bother asking in a public forum, would be better off approaching their team coach/management.
True but that's kind of like a 100m sprinter asking someone how feasible it would be to run a marathon in 2 hours 30 ?0 -
Escargot wrote:dodgy wrote:I think anyone that is regularly doing sub 20 minute 10s will have an implicit appreciation of what it takes to ride 240miles inside 9 hours, too. I'm surprised someone of that standard would bother asking in a public forum, would be better off approaching their team coach/management.
True but that's kind of like a 100m sprinter asking someone how feasible it would be to run a marathon in 2 hours 30 ?
No, that's not what I mean at all. I mean someone that is at the top of their game (and anyone that does sub 20 minute 10s is at the top of their game) should already know that what they've got themselves into is not possible.0
