Stage 17 *spoiler*

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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Damn Andy getting shelved, i thought he was looking good
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I see Menchov's back.
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  • Bartoli
    Bartoli Posts: 51
    Kohl has been very quiet.Too late now?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Is Andy Schleck SMILING?!? The boy's a freak :D
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    After all that it has been rather a disappointing climb up the alpe
  • Eurostar
    Eurostar Posts: 1,806
    Carlos is going to get more than 2.30 on Evans
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  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    awesome ride!!!!
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

    Manchester Wheelers
  • Eurostar
    Eurostar Posts: 1,806
    I'm in awe of Riis - he must have been planning this from the start
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    There ya go Dave_1 - he's a doper at 39'45"
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  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    What was Sastre doing, doing up his jersey, free wheeling and celebrating?? It's about time isn't it?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    2'15" to Evans.
  • Bartoli
    Bartoli Posts: 51
    Fingers and toes crossed for Sastre in the TT
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:
    What was Sastre doing, doing up his jersey, free wheeling and celebrating?? It's about time isn't it?

    He has no previous of winning stages!
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Evans about 1.30 down on Sastre in yellow. It's going to go down to the wire...
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    So he's about 1:30 ahead of Evans on GC then?

    Evans beat Sastre by 2:30 in the final TT last year. It's gonna be close but I don't think it's enough.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    afx237vi wrote:
    2'15" to Evans.



    Still think CSC tactics were ridiculous ?


    cheers
    MG
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    calvjones wrote:
    skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:
    What was Sastre doing, doing up his jersey, free wheeling and celebrating?? It's about time isn't it?

    He has no previous of winning stages!

    Sastre won a stage in 2003 - remember the "dummy in the mouth" celebration?
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Moray Gub wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    2'15" to Evans.



    Still think CSC tactics were ridiculous ?

    Still think they should have attacked earlier. Don't think 1'30" is enough in a 50km TT.

    Evans was lucky he had CVV in the group.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    DaveyL wrote:
    calvjones wrote:
    skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:
    What was Sastre doing, doing up his jersey, free wheeling and celebrating?? It's about time isn't it?

    He has no previous of winning stages!

    Sastre won a stage in 2003 - remember the "dummy in the mouth" celebration?

    I'd forgotten that was him! Up there with Flecha's arrow that. I lik ehim now :D
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  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    There's no way 1:30 is enough. There's a small chance he could pull back 10-15 more seconds tomorrow but it's unlikely. Looks like Evans is gonna be in Yellow barring a miracle ride by Sastre.

    One thing I noticed: about 6-7 times on that mountain, Andy looked like he wanted to take off and was about to but looked back to his brother and each time saw he wasn't able to go. Andy, I think, could have taken the whole thing but he didn't want to risk dropping Frank or pulling up Evans.

    Also, BIG kudos to Frank. What a teammate! When he realized he'd run out of time/distance to take enough time from Evans, he stopped his attacks and just rode Evans' wheel to let Sastre have a go. Wow.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    What a ride. He attacked before the first hairpin and rode away from all the others. Class.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Really happy for Carlos, even though I have money on VDV to win!
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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    I was actually quite disappointed with that climb... anyone else? Shows how everyone is hurting i guess
  • bigdawg
    bigdawg Posts: 672
    personally think CSC have blown it...

    Theyve had 2 stages to mount a team attack against one guy and they left it till the last 1/2 hour... Unless Sastre becomes a TT god overnight it'll be close but I think evans will take it..
    dont knock on death\'s door.....

    Ring the bell and leg it...that really pi**es him off....
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Carlos will do the TT of his life with the yellow jersey on his back, but it may not be enough.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    How about sending Frank Schleck on the attack on that 2nd cat tomorrow? Frank's Tour is over... sacrifice him, just give Evans another hard day.
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    afx237vi wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    2'15" to Evans.



    Still think CSC tactics were ridiculous ?

    Still think they should have attacked earlier. Don't think 1'30" is enough in a 50km TT.

    Evans was lucky he had CVV in the group.

    So do you think their tactics were ridiculous or not then ?

    the reason i ask is that they have given themselves a decent shout at winning yellow in Paris through their ridiculous tactics.

    cheers
    MG
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    i think they have to. They can't rely on Sastre pulling it out in the TT
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    CSC have done all they could. It's a bike race and if chess-like tactics are important, the third dimension is the effort.

    They attacked at the only realistic point, at the foot of Alpe d'Huez. Their only mistake in the race was not feeding Andy Schleck on the descent of Hautacam where he bonked, he'd be in yellow by now with a significant lead.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Moray Gub wrote:

    So do you think their tactics were ridiculous or not then ?

    the reason i ask is that they have given themselves a decent shout at winning yellow in Paris through their ridiculous tactics.

    cheers
    MG

    Putting Cancellara to ride km after km on the Croix de Fer was ridiculous, yes. What purpose did it serve? It gave Evans a comfortable ride.

    From the foot of the Alpe, they played it well, but I still don't think it was enough. They have a chance yes... but a very slim one IMO. I'd love to be proved wrong.

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