Stage 17 *spoiler*

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  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    afx237vi wrote:
    This is getting ridiculous now. Surely the CSC directeurs realise this is playing right into Cadel Evans' hands? This is helping neither Schleck or Sastre.

    The final climb will be the judge of that i suppose.

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  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    edited July 2008
    Why doesn't F Schleck attack and then have his teammates get in Evans's way as he tries to follow? Or is that not the done thing??

    Sorry, but I'm really struggling to understand what CSC are thinking. Afterall, didn't they try this yesterday as well and it made no difference to GC.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    afx237vi wrote:

    If he gets to the bottom of Alpe d'Huez alongside Kohl and Schleck, the race is over.

    I don't know - The bottom of Alpe d'Huez is the steep part when they could shake him.

    I'd prefer if they went before then but waiting til the last mountain worked for Armstrong.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • josd
    josd Posts: 107
    yup there goes cunego
    why did i choose him for protour pundit?
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    yup sastre only needs 50 second to get the jersey so would need to do a bit of a ricco :)

    I personally think that none of them have the legs to break
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Sastre doesn't look like he can attack at the moment. Well to me anyway.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Eurostar
    Eurostar Posts: 1,806
    Don't understand Schumacher's tactics today. Did he honestly think he could go on an all day break over three mountains and win the stage? Wouldn't it have been better to help Kohl?
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    iainf72 wrote:
    Coriander wrote:
    Why are CSC just plugging along like that? Everybody knows that Evans has an extraordinary ability to sit on wheels and will probably stick with them, so what are they trying to do? And aren't they rapidly running out of time?

    Thanks.

    Getting rid of people to try and get a small group. And they're wearing everyone down and hoping Frank will be less worn down than the rest.

    Jens should pop onto the front soon and do even more damage.

    Well, you're half right...
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  • josd
    josd Posts: 107
    yah didnt jens just get dropped?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Here we go. Maybe. Cancellara, Voigt and Gustov all shelled out. Very small peloton with 5km to go.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Hopefully once Arvesen goes Andy will really push on
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    What are Kohl's TT abilities - is he a serious contender for overall winner?
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Evans further back in the group than we've ever seen him. Usually he's stuck to Frank's wheel
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Coriander wrote:
    What are Kohl's TT abilities - is he a serious contender for overall winner?

    Nope, but would hope to defend against Schleck at least
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Eurostar wrote:
    Don't understand Schumacher's tactics today. Did he honestly think he could go on an all day break over three mountains and win the stage? Wouldn't it have been better to help Kohl?

    Training for the Olympics I reckon
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    Coriander wrote:
    What are Kohl's TT abilities - is he a serious contender for overall winner?

    Beter than Schleck. In the first TT he lost about 1.45 to Evans, Schleck lost 2.00.
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    Whatever your views on Evans (and I'm not a big fan, though I was moved by how much it obviously meant to him when he first got into the yellow jersey), you have to give him some credit - he's basically done the whole Tour on his own. Unlike Schleck.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    edited July 2008
    Coriander wrote:
    What are Kohl's TT abilities - is he a serious contender for overall winner?

    31st in the first TT, 1:47 behind Schumi, 1:20 behind Evans. So not that bad really.

    Edit: What Piranha said. I was looking at his palmares... nothing even remotely impressive when it comes to TTs.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Although Evans will undoubtedly make up time in the time trial, they will all have had 17 stages in their legs between the two time trials.
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    My boredom threshold has been reached. Do I

    a: Do some work?
    b: Go for a sit down in the loo with a copy of the Sun?
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Sastre looks bad, hanging at the back of the group.

    Congratulations to Cadel, looks like you've won the Tour, cobber! Unless he blows up massively on the Alpe, he can't lose much time and should be fine for the TT, where on paper he'll smash even Menchov.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Who said a clean(ish) tour would still be exciting?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    Does this mean the time bonuses should be resurrected?

    I kinda like the fact that your race time is the time you've spent on the road. But maybe it would have made things a bit more exciting. Though that does seem counter-intuitive.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    edited July 2008
    well - the Yellow Jersey’s Peloton is rather large now so alot of riders in contention wich could spark some breakaways
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    FFS - Froome went over in 7'th place!
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Anyone listening to the BBC enhanced online coverage? It sounds like their commentator has gone insane at the moment. He's interviewing Geraint Thomas, but we can't hear Geraint. So we're getting one end of the conversation interspersed with really long silences :lol:
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Vogondy is still in there which must mean Jens is there, he's got to absolutely kill himself in the valley to do anything at all. Then they've got to put a big effort at the bottom of the Alpe, rest and then go again from about 5 ks out.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Cancellara as well. They obviously slowed down at the top of the CdF.
  • sbatty3313
    sbatty3313 Posts: 3
    If he doesn't lose significant time to menchov and evans reckon he could be a good outside bet, 300-1 as well for overall winner.

    Don't understand CSC tactics, they need to attack evans. Cancellera is still in top group ffs.

    Very pleased ITV 4 are showing it all live.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Fk me Fab is back. I'm going mad :shock:
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