Stage 17 *spoiler*

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  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    Yawn. How (un)exciting. If I were Eurosport I would seriously consider the need to show full coverage of mountain stages. How much ever actually happens before the final climb now? OK, there was the stage earlier in the race where they dropped Valverde and built a gap in the valley, but 9 times out of 10 the tactics seem to be to wait, then gain 20 seconds on the climb. This has been an exceptionally dull Tour. Right now I really don't care who wins and will be glad when the race finishes as I can concentrate on something more interesting. One thing I will say is that I will be watching the 20s cricket at the weekend rather than watching the TT boys in action.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Dull as ditch water.
    Sean Kelly called Cancellara's riding "unbelievable", which is his code word for expect a visit to the dopage, tonight.

    Since LA, teams see this as the only way to win.
    Oh and "Rocket Ricco" crashing in flames, didn't help. :oops:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • It'll probably go mad on the Alpe, although they way they are riding at the moment I should think Evans and Menchov are having a wry internal smile. CSG are nutty riding tempo for Evans and Menchov al day. Mad. They are going to have to launch one of Sastre or Frank from the very bottom of the Alpe otherwise it's been a waste of time for CSC today. And whoever it is that goes has got to really go for it not just see if a reaction comes.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Since LA, teams see this as the only way to win.

    At least with Lance you could be sure he'd finish the job. I'm not so sure with these chaps.

    I hope the Schlecks do something. They must. Or even Kohl.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Dull as ditch water.

    Since LA, teams see this as the only way to win.

    Yeah, the problem is, this only works if LA is behind the last domestique to peel off.
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  • Well according to Sherwen he's not seen anything like the power of CSC not even Disco or Postal...............give me strength. Mind you he hasn't actuall said "heads of state" yet. He managed a quick "heads" but thankfully that's it so far.
  • A lake!
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Has Cooonego ever won a TdF stage?
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  • Nope, and he's not likely to given he has a bad patch half way up every hard climb.
  • oily sailor
    oily sailor Posts: 235
    Well according to Sherwen he's not seen anything like the power of CSC not even Disco or Postal...............give me strength. Mind you he hasn't actuall said "heads of state" yet. He managed a quick "heads" but thankfully that's it so far.

    I don't buy that. No way the likes of Pineau, Froome and Casar would have kept up with the US Postal train.
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    there you go, all of the great heads of state are still in there...... back to eurosport.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Anyone think Vande Velde has a chance to gain any time on anyone ahead of him? I think the best he can do is wheel follow. This is gonna be brutal after the previous two HC climbs and it's very, very unlikely he'd be able to take time on the Schlecks or Sastre. However, I could see him gaining time on Evans/Menchov if those guys are a bit off today.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Perhaps this is all Riis' master tactics. Everyone knows they have to attack so they assume it'll be on the Croix de Fer. They are all nervous and use up energy waiting for it and get mentally tired.

    Then boom, hit em at the bottom of ADH.

    Either that or it's just really dull.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Ha! Sherwen is talking cack again. CSC are cock*ng it up currently.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    No, in the last 5-7 years, there's been almost zero attacks by the top GC guys on climbs where there's a good amount of descent and/or flat after the mountain. The only recent time I can recall is Floyd and that was because he was 8 minutes off GC (so again, not a top GC guy).

    It just doesn't happen anymore. I don't know if it's the use of radio that does it or the fact that everyone assumes they'll be able to pull back time easily on the descent but mountain attacks rarely happen now if there's a good amount after the ascent.
  • Allemont! I stopped for a poo there during the Marmotte. Got dropped by 2,000 riders at that point. Too much information? I'm bored.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    edited July 2008
    Calm down. All mountain stages are like this, too many of you are used to watching edited highlights in a 20 minute package. A six or seven hour stage only has a few key moments. Alpe d'Huez will be exciting!

    This is the Alps, you often have huge gaps between each pass. In the Pyrenees it's much more up, down, up rather than long valley sections which make solo or small breaks so difficult.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    how is the toilet paper in Allemont skavanagh? Nice and fluffy or hard and scratchy?
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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    I leave work in 8 mins.. gutted will miss the finish :(
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  • There wasn't any. It was a long day in many senses.
  • Kleber is right. It'll go mental on the Alpe.
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Not long now! This is gonna kick off!
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Kléber wrote:
    Calm down. All mountain stages are like this, too many of you are used to watching edited highlights in a 20 minute package. A six or seven hour stage only has a few key moments. Alpe d'Huez will be exciting!

    This is the Alps, you often have huge gaps between each pass. In the Pyrenees it's much more up, down, up rather than long valley sections which make solo or small breaks so difficult.

    +1

    Seems like some folk on here have never watched a whole stage before.
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  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    Doobz wrote:
    I leave work in 8 mins.. gutted will miss the finish :(

    Can't you volunteer to do unpaid overtime?
  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    Too late.... :D
  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    Kleber is right. It'll go mental on the Alpe.

    By that you mean it'll go Cadel on the Alpe.
  • I've watched a few over the years, including some flat ones which is a real endurance test (well several hours not a whole stage). I just thought we might have got a bit more action. Still there will be quite enough in a few minutes.
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    DaveyL wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    Seems like some folk on here have never watched a whole stage before.

    I've watched plenty over the years, but not being an Evans supporter I was hoping for some action a bit earlier on. Of course nothing might happen on the Alpe either.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    I don't know why folks are surprised. It was always going to come down to the Alpe.
    Never is pretty, watching endless tempo, but it's done for effect.

    There is no one going to an LA, finish what the teams started, I'm afraid.
    So, who will take the bull by the horns, first?
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Carlos will go first from CSC. Maybe.
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