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rick_chasey

bails87 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

bails87 wrote:

King Jeffers wrote:

Just watched bails87 road rage incident :-( Totally shocked. Hope the guy gets charged, no excuse for that behavior.

Can't remember if I said here or somewhere else, but he wrote a letter saying he "regrets that we bumped into each other". And that's the end of it. Crime and "punishment" in unelected Shameron's broken Britain :roll:

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Seriously, is that all that's going to happen?

Yep.

When it was heavily suggested by the PC that this was the way the case should proceed I went to the station to see the 'apology' and was going to ask what she'd want done if one of her colleagues was subjected to a similar attack, but walked in and was told "Here's your letter. Now sign this form. Bye".

Christ.

At least with my incident the police took him in for questioning, which hopefully scared the sh!t out of him.

(He got off - denied it all, no witnesses came forward).

That's outrageous.

I know you're pretty calm & have perspective when it comes to these things, but christ, how p!ssed off were you when they did that?

rjsterry

bails87 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

bails87 wrote:

King Jeffers wrote:

Just watched bails87 road rage incident :-( Totally shocked. Hope the guy gets charged, no excuse for that behavior.

Can't remember if I said here or somewhere else, but he wrote a letter saying he "regrets that we bumped into each other". And that's the end of it. Crime and "punishment" in unelected Shameron's broken Britain :roll:

[/DailyMailCommenter]

Seriously, is that all that's going to happen?

Yep.

When it was heavily suggested by the PC that this was the way the case should proceed I went to the station to see the 'apology' and was going to ask what she'd want done if one of her colleagues was subjected to a similar attack, but walked in and was told "Here's your letter. Now sign this form. Bye".

That's so rubbish as to be beyond parody. School children have had worse for not wearing their school tie properly.

bails87

I'd calmed down since the initial incident, so I was half in the frame of mind of "I don't want a family going hungry and being kicked out of their house because their d**khead of a dad lost his temper then got sacked due to a conviction, so maybe this will make sure he won't do it again, without hurting anyone who wasn't to blame". But the more I read the letter, the more I realised it wasn't an apology at all. He regrets us 'bumping into each other'. Well so do I, but that doesn't mean I've got anything to apologise for!

I was also told by the police "I've looked at the video again, and there wasn't really anything wrong with the driving". Which makes me think that if I really pressed them then he'd get done for assault and not the driving, so he'd think that his driving had been proven to be top notch. (Like someone involved in an incident with Martin Porter/Cycling Silk who said that because he was found guilty he was proven innocent. Thick people don't understand the difference, and this guy is thick!).

If his driving had been ok, me and his car wouldn't have, to use his words, bumped into each other, and he wouldn't have stopped and punched me. Next time he might drive like that past someone who won't put their hand out to protect themselves and they might come off the bike/go under the wheels of the car. As much as I wanted him 'done' for the assault, I wanted his driving to improve, because that's the thing that's going to kill/injure someone else in the future, and it's also the thing that he thought was okay. He might drive past me a hundred times, he's not going to get out and punch me again, but if he's that close every time then eventually he's going to hit me.

His apology didn't mention the driving. That won't change. He'll just know to hit the cyclist with his car rather than his fists in future.

I want to support the police, I really do (in fact I had a chat with a policeman in a car at the lights the other day) but when I've actually needed them to do something I've always been faced with complete and utter apathy, on three occasions now, and I'm fed up with it. Smashing off wing mirrors is the only way to get a driver to pay for their mistakes, it would seem.

Ben6899

Or you could have feckin decked him. Credit to you for not power-slamming the little fucker onto his car bonnet.

bails87

Ben6899 wrote:

Or you could have feckin decked him. Credit to you for not power-slamming the little ****** onto his car bonnet.

Errr, I've never thrown a punch in my life, and I was on the floor being punched in the head before I knew what was going on.

I thought he was going to walk up to me and tell me not to touch his car, or ask what my problem was. I didn't expect that reaction at all. If I'd known it was coming I would have happily defended myself by burying a chainring in his shin.

You're also assuming that he wasn't 'powerslammed' because I wouldn't rather than because I couldn't. I need to learn some crouching tiger s**t!

DrLex

So much for the "first one who gets physical, loses" policeman's comment that I recall being repeated here recently.
I'd be tempted to take it further, like Mr Porter Q.C.

rick_chasey

bails87 wrote:

Ben6899 wrote:

Or you could have feckin decked him. Credit to you for not power-slamming the little ****** onto his car bonnet.

Errr, I've never thrown a punch in my life, and I was on the floor being punched in the head before I knew what was going on.

I thought he was going to walk up to me and tell me not to touch his car, or ask what my problem was. I didn't expect that reaction at all. If I'd known it was coming I would have happily defended myself by burying a chainring in his shin.

You're also assuming that he wasn't 'powerslammed' because I wouldn't rather than because I couldn't. I need to learn some crouching tiger s**t!

From experience, unless you've done a lot of marshal art stuff, fights are always undignified and never turn out like you imagine.

It's just a blur of various limbs, and it's rare anyone particularly comes out on top. People in films always stand much further apart than what actually happens in real life.

Even Haye and Choriso who are professional fighters looked ridiculous.

bails87

Rick Chasey wrote:

From experience, unless you've done a lot of marshal art stuff, fights are always undignified and never turn out like you imagine.

It's just a blur of various limbs, and it's rare anyone particularly comes out on top. People in films always stand much further apart than what actually happens in real life.

Even Haye and Choriso who are professional fighters looked ridiculous.

I just want quick enough reactions to wallop him in the plums. No dignity there!

Edit: By 'him' I mean a hypothetical aggressor, I'm not talking about going back to 'get' this guy. If I'm being physically attacked by a woman then I might punch her in the boob instead.

rick_chasey

In all seriousness, you might get some press traction with that story, if you wouldn't mind the hassle/attention.

Ben6899

bails87 wrote:

Ben6899 wrote:

Or you could have feckin decked him. Credit to you for not power-slamming the little ****** onto his car bonnet.

Errr, I've never thrown a punch in my life, and I was on the floor being punched in the head before I knew what was going on.

I thought he was going to walk up to me and tell me not to touch his car, or ask what my problem was. I didn't expect that reaction at all. If I'd known it was coming I would have happily defended myself by burying a chainring in his shin.

You're also assuming that he wasn't 'powerslammed' because I wouldn't rather than because I couldn't. I need to learn some crouching tiger s**t!

Oh I totally appreciate how he used the element of surprise. But in the aftermath when he was being a lippy little shite and repeating "Did you hit my car?", I would have been hard pushed not to lose my temper. After all, he probably couldn't hold his own if someone had a proper go at him.

Like I said, it's credit to you for keeping your head.

And it's a fucking disgrace how the police treated everything.

bails87

Rick Chasey wrote:

In all seriousness, you might get some press traction with that story, if you wouldn't mind the hassle/attention.

The thing is, the police aren't going to reopen the case (are they?). It's just going to show the pondlife around the country what you can do to a cyclist without any comeback.

clarkey cat

In such an event you should just cover your head and ribs (like a boxer) and get yourself into a small a ball as possible. An every day thug will just swing their moronic arms around ineffectively slapping your arms and back.

Then, when they are tired, stand up and at your leisure beat the fook out of the coont.

rick_chasey

bails87 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

In all seriousness, you might get some press traction with that story, if you wouldn't mind the hassle/attention.

The thing is, the police aren't going to reopen the case (are they?). It's just going to show the pondlife around the country what you can do to a cyclist without any comeback.

I was thinking more of the way the police treat incidents like this.

They're serious, and victims don't always take them as well as you do, and from anecdotal experiences on here, it doesn't seem particularly unusual behaviour from the police (though this is quite extreme) .

bails87

clarkey cat wrote:

In such an event you should just cover your head and ribs (like a boxer) and get yourself into a small a ball as possible. An every day thug will just swing their moronic arms around ineffectively slapping your arms and back.

Exactly what I did! It works too.

I've never been one to fight. I remember a kid at school tried to 'make me' have a fight with him. I just kept tripping him (on grass) and holding him in an armlock. I've got no desire to do anything else. If anything it's probably more humiliating for a wannabe thug and bully to be held face down at the side of the road after a failed attack while the police turn up than to get a slap back and slink away.

Ben6899

bails87 wrote:

clarkey cat wrote:

In such an event you should just cover your head and ribs (like a boxer) and get yourself into a small a ball as possible. An every day thug will just swing their moronic arms around ineffectively slapping your arms and back.

Exactly what I did! It works too.

I've never been one to fight. I remember a kid at school tried to 'make me' have a fight with him. I just kept tripping him (on grass) and holding him in an armlock. I've got no desire to do anything else. If anything it's probably more humiliating for a wannabe thug and bully to be held face down at the side of the road after a failed attack while the police turn up than to get a slap back and slink away.

Or chin him and then hold him for the police.

"What happened to his face?"

"Oh he slipped, officer." *nudge-wink*

clarkey cat

it's probably more humiliating for a wannabe thug and bully to be held face down at the side of the road after a failed attack

I think its definitely more humiliating to have your nose smashed open!!!

clarkey cat

the police wouldn't be your pal in that instance.

they'd think hmmm, who is easier to arrest - the livewire thug - or the pacifict cyclist who can defend himself.

Right then, Lance - you're nicked.

Chin him. Leg it.

bails87

Well, I'm off home now, if any little old ladies get chinned for looking at me the wrong way then you lot are to blame!

Wheelspinner

davis wrote:

What did you do, if you don't mind my asking?

Cracked C7 vertebra resulting from a crash, caused when another rider was not watching where he was going and ran over a dead animal at 50kmh, taking me with him headfirst into the gutter...

davis

Wheelspinner wrote:

davis wrote:

What did you do, if you don't mind my asking?

Cracked C7 vertebra resulting from a crash, caused when another rider was not watching where he was going and ran over a dead animal at 50kmh, taking me with him headfirst into the gutter...

Oof. I did a faceplant and took T6 out [edit] after hitting a pothole. Not fun, is it? Still, bloody amazing what the body can cope with.

Wheelspinner

davis wrote:

Wheelspinner wrote:

davis wrote:

What did you do, if you don't mind my asking?

Cracked C7 vertebra resulting from a crash, caused when another rider was not watching where he was going and ran over a dead animal at 50kmh, taking me with him headfirst into the gutter...

Oof. I did a faceplant and took T6 out [edit] after hitting a pothole. Not fun, is it? Still, bloody amazing what the body can cope with.

Am lucky I am basically fine, I know, but it's the residual effects that are most aggravating. That and the fact that the medics seem to neither know nor care much whether these things will really go away. One said another CT scan may show if I have a trapped nerve, but advised I should not bother because it might not, and even if it did treatment may not change, plus the added risk of long term cancer from the extra radiation!!!!

Kieran_Burns

Posted in the Camera Commute thread, but worthy of a rant here as well:

http://youtu.be/D52aqpT6k14?hd=1

On the way in this morning.

davis

Wheelspinner wrote:

Am lucky I am basically fine, I know, but it's the residual effects that are most aggravating. That and the fact that the medics seem to neither know nor care much whether these things will really go away. One said another CT scan may show if I have a trapped nerve, but advised I should not bother because it might not, and even if it did treatment may not change, plus the added risk of long term cancer from the extra radiation!!!!

Know that feeling. It's the chronic pain that grinds you down after a while.
In your case, if the presence of a trapped nerve wouldn't change the treatment, then frankly I wouldn't want yet another CT scan.

Wheelspinner

davis wrote:

Wheelspinner wrote:

Am lucky I am basically fine, I know, but it's the residual effects that are most aggravating. That and the fact that the medics seem to neither know nor care much whether these things will really go away. One said another CT scan may show if I have a trapped nerve, but advised I should not bother because it might not, and even if it did treatment may not change, plus the added risk of long term cancer from the extra radiation!!!!

Know that feeling. It's the chronic pain that grinds you down after a while.
In your case, if the presence of a trapped nerve wouldn't change the treatment, then frankly I wouldn't want yet another CT scan.

I probably won't have the scan, not yet anyway, will see if it improves further. Until it's clear whether or not I regain full range of movement, there's little point. I have about 70% range only as yet, slowly increasing.

rick_chasey

To the chap on the hybrid who was trying to explain to me how safe riding through red lights was (as he was riding through the red light), I must apologise for my "haa!" when, as you were doing so, you almost cycled into a car turning onto our road.


I also hope you felt like a chump when I passed you with consummate ease every single time you jumped the lights.

graham.

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Posted in the Camera Commute thread, but worthy of a rant here as well:

http://youtu.be/D52aqpT6k14?hd=1

On the way in this morning.

What was that hand signal you made? I could'nt quite make it out.
Graham.

veronese68

I had to go to the dentist this morning at 9.30 so opted to take the car as the traffic would have died down and it would be a bit quicker and I wouldn't have to change when I got to work. Plus I knew the forecast was wet and windy for this afternoon and my knee hurts.
I wish I'd cycled. Drive round the corner and there's a skip lorry blocking the road (bloody skips everywhere round my way)*. Then women driving big 4x4s that can't cope with the size of the thing so they just drive down the middle of the road. If you can't drive a big car buy a small one. Then idiots meandering from lane to lane whilst negotiating the Kingston one way system. The pretty flashing yellow lights in the corner are to let other people know what you're doing. Listening to my choice of cd was the only redeeming feature, not enough.
We are very lucky to be able to cycle.

Edit: * pulling someones leg with that bit

Mr Plum

Cut up and almost run over by a taxi driver with a chip on his shoulder this morning. Trying to make a formal complaint as we speak. First incident I've had in months, I knew I was due something...

dunnnooo

So I go on holiday, and whilst there I buy one of those medieval weapony things with two spikey balls chained to the end of a piece of wood, being the geek I am. Get home, and the first thing I do? Swing it round over my head, and clobber myself. There's blood all over the carpet, and she-who-must-be-obeyed doesn't know whether to be annoyed, worried, or piss herself laughing, so is going for all three.

Stupid boy. :oops:

bails87

MR Plum: Glad you're ok, hope they take it seriously.

dunnnooo:.....sorry, but

and get well soon!