Today's discussion about the news
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Good to hear the hurricane went from a cat5 to 3.
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Must be why tents and caravan awnings famously never blow away in a stiff breeze.
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They wouldn't blow away if they had 8ft concrete pegs holding them down...
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Re Lucy Letby... Phil Hammond's not letting go. As time goes on, there seem to be more and more questions marks about the conviction. My bold prediction is that the conviction will be reviewed, as it does appear that the jury did not have enough information to reach a safe verdict, especially regarding evidence which might have cast doubt on the evidence of the key prosecution expert witness. Why that counter-evidence was not presented is intriguing, but it certainly seems there are strong reasons to doubt that the conviction is safe (or, at minimum, needs to be reviewed).
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Be careful not to take all of your info from one source Brian. This guy has made up his mind and is possibly selecting things that confirm what he thinks.
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Of course, but he's not the only person with these concerns... AFAIK he's got no connection with the Graun reporters in the quoted report (though he's obviously quoted it because it chimes with his worries).
The crux is not that the conviction is necessarily wrong, but if evidence that might have given jurors cause to doubt the only expert witness was ignored or withheld (for whatever reaons), then it would suggest it's an unsafe verdict. The current enquiry is starting with the premiss that the verdict was de facto correct, so is in no way helping (and probably hindering) an unbiased consideration of the matter, though obviously it's not within their purview (in effect) to retry the case. But, and it's a big 'but', if the causes of death were because of a ward operating way beyond its capability, and thereby a major institutional failure, an enquiry whose remit is to discover 'How did this murderer do these awful crimes?', will produce a report which is without any relevance whatsoever.
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She isn't going to get a retrial because the evidence was available and the defense chose not to use it (that's my understanding). The threshold for ineffective counsel is high (I think).
And to be honest, if you shine a light bright enough on any institution anywhere, you will find failings.
I'm personally reluctant to form any view without sitting through a few weeks' evidence.
(And this coming from someone normally happy to shoot from the hip based on almost no information, just a rare gift for intuitive judgments)
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Fair enough, it's just that normally institutional failings don't end up with someone in prison for multiple murders, so it's understandable that this case arouses extra interest.
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I notice you didn't disagree with my rare gift for guessing correctly.
Thank you.
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Takes me back to my old network days.
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Kuenssberg as professional as we've come to expect (watch till the end)... worth every penny of her £350k pa.
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Worth reading the whole tweet and listening to the whole interview.
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She really is rubbish. There are better people who can do this job…
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She managed not to say the quiet part out loud. Just.
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Yeah, it's the tiptoeing around it that's both infuriating and gives Netanyahu just enough leeway to carry on, taken in conjunction with the US's position. The history of antisemitism within Labour makes it (ironically) harder for current Labour to dare criticise Israel too strongly.
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One for @First.Aspect, given his admiration for what Scotland has achieved with devolution. Just think of their sources of wealth, such as daffodils, and tin, and tech giants setting up shop in places like Redruth, Camborne, and Bugle...
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Thing is, it's Cornwall, so despite the momentum they will get round to it drectly.
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At least they could discuss my modest proposal of scooping out the entire inland area of Cornwall, so the middle turns into one big beautiful lake, so you have a lot more scope for waterside properties, Camborne and Redruth disappear along with all the spoil tips, and all the stuff scooped out could be taken to the Somerset Levels to make them into mountains, and Bridgwater & Highbridge disappear. I can't see that there would be any objections.
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Actually I think the midlands are a better candidate for your plans.
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Maybe it needs competitive bidding for who gets the mountains.
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Or the borders of the river Exe
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