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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Personally I think decent people who wouldn't sh1t on your carpet should be celebrated a bit more. It was a great live performance by them, the hundred thousand strong crowd love it and their songs have been global hit's.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    I’m going to have to finally accept I’m old. The wife put it on for a while and I didn’t know anyone including tonight’s headliner plus everything I saw went into the ‘well that was shite’ category.

  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183

    u2 were fantastic when I saw them. Over 40 years ago…

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,721

    Would have to agree with you.

    Couldn't pick tonights out of a line up and not even sure how to say "Dua Lipa"

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    I've zero interest in watching any of the headliners. Think it wasn't a vintage year for the armchair fan.

  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,952

    I've juat started watching.

    Turn the page is a great festival set opener

  • See if you can find the Heilung Glastonbury performance on Friday on catch up, turn the volume up. Most amazing thing I have seen at a festival for some time.

  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,136

    Doo-ah leap-ah.

    Currently watching The National, although I have seen them live many times.

    I like SZA but surprised she is a headliner, she is kind of unknown outside the USA.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Even Colin Patterson on BBC got as close as he could to saying Sunday’s headline act was rubbish. Said he’s been to 19 Glastonburys and never seen such a small crowd for a headline act and like many gave up and went to see what else was on.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Feels to me that Emily Eavis is starting to lose touch with what people want to see from the headliners. Other than a few contrarians like Rick I think people are generally there to see the big bands with extensive back catalogues playing all the hits so they can sing along.

  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798

    Seemed an odd choice to close the festival. It would have made more sense to have Coldplay do it, as they would appeal to the Sunday local day ticket holders who will be much more 'generic' music fans. But they can only book who is available and willing, and when you consider they pay peanuts it gives them limited options.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Even Dua Lipa would have been better in that slot. I may not be massively in touch with current music but having someone neither me or the wife had ever heard of as a headliner still feels an odd choice. My 21 year old daughter didn't really seem to know them either.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    I'll be honest, when they announced who was headlining, I didn't even know if it was a group, a man or a woman.

    If you announce the headliner after the tickets are sold, it's got to be someone who at least interests the people who are likely to have bought the tickets.

  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,952

    I realise that Glastonbury is not trying appeal to my demographic but the Pyramid stage seemed pretty weak generally this year - I think there were only a couple of bands that I would have wanted to see. I feel like previous years i would had a couple that I'd really want to see and a few that I would watch if they didn't clash.

    I'll put my rose tinted spectacles away now.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    I'm not sure there is a demographic they are aiming for, it feels like a huge range but that's why I think the headliners need to be the big acts that tend to be cross generational. Maybe there is an aim to get more ethnic diversity but again it doesn't really work if people only know who the acts are after the tickets have been sold.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Suede and the Manics in Cardiff last night.

    Both really good, but the manics are a cut above.

  • Booked tickets to see When Two Rivers Meet - 2 peice bluesy band

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    I find the preachers a bit shouty and screachy. "Tone it down a bit fella", Christ my ears.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,782

    I saw some interview with Richard Osman yesterday (can't find it now) in which he noted the obliteration of bands as such from pop music in the charts... first five years of the 1980s, 153 were at no.1, 1990s had 151, 2000s had just three, and only one of those was a band formed in that decade. Gosh.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Was on The Rest is Entertainment podcast.

    The whole market has changed so fundamentally- the chart no longer represents anything close to the same thing it did.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 19


    There has been very little musical innovation in band music for a while now. All the biggest bands are old and well past their best.

    It’s been in hip hop for a while, though they are also running out of road.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    That's not got a lot to do with who gets to number one. I don't think noah kahan or sabrina carpenter are pushing many boundaries.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 19

    It has something to do with why new band music (rock etc) is not popular.

    Why listen to some dross that's a derivative of something when you can just listen to the good stuff it is derivative of? I see band adverts on Tiktok for new bands and they literally advertise themselves as "if you like queens of the stone age and nirvana, try us" and it's just derivative stuff.

    Streaming has changed the dynamic - your new music needs to actually be original.

    There is also an argument that we've moved away from the 7" 3 minute pop song to the 30 second social media hook.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    "Streaming has changed the dynamic - your new music needs to actually be original."

    Half right. To make money your music has to be played a lot. So if you get a song that people will play over and over, that's good. If you have a fan base that is obsessive and plays your songs all the time, super. Doesn't have to be even vaguely groundbreaking.

    Before streaming it didn't matter if your fan base bought the record and played it incessantly or bought it and played it occasionally.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,782
    edited July 19

    Yeah, just found it again. I do find it a genuinely interesting shift - not that I follow it at all, but If just not thought about it.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    It definitely is an interesting shift.

    I just looked at album charts in the mid 60s for some reason and from 5th May 1963 until the end of 1967 there were 133 weeks of Beatles, 30 weeks of Rolling Stones, 9 weeks of the Monkees, 3 weeks of Bob Dylan, 55 weeks of The Sound of Music and 1 day of Val Doonican at the very end. That's it.

    In the 2020s so far, The Rolling Stones are again the equal top number of weeks for all groups at number one in the album charts - with 3 weeks.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Equinoxe V on the Olympic coverage still sounding fresh 46 years after being released.

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,721

    ”Review" of Saturday's Tunes in the Dunes.

    Went with the parents as it's almost in their back garden (sounds like it is tonight..) so was well behaved.

    Paloma Faith - I know her from comedy quiz shows as much as anything else so wasn't sure what to say expect. Didn't know any songs but she sounded good. Band were superb. However she couldn't really hold the attention of the crowd who were chatting during the songs about half way back

    Natasha Bedingfield - yup... Same as Paloma really. Cracking voice and did a few covers and stuff given that she only has those 2 songs (one of which I was reminded of). Also couldn't hold the crowd.

    I can hear from the garden that Pixie Lott is doing far better in that respect.

    Noasis - good fun. Everyone joining in. Not sure a festival works as well for a cover band as I struggled to suspend the disbelief more than I have done before, but still good.

    Scouting for Girls - have to say, really good show. Took everything that Coldplay did at Glastonbury and improved on it. All the tricks, all the cliches. Had everyone joining in. Given they made a career off of 2 or 3 identical catchy riffs, Fair play, smashed it.

    Why the organisation got Busted and McFly on the one bill but separated them on Friday and Sunday instead if getting someone else is beyond me but...

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    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    So the least surprising announcement in the history of music has been confirmed and Oasis are on tour next year. I think I mentioned my cynicism of the ongoing ‘rift’ on here before and that it was only a matter of time before they kissed and made up to announce a money making tour.