First Crash folks, serious leasons learned

Flanker37 wrote:

Just spent 4 hours in A&E

my cousin came up for a week, and looking for things to do i suggested a bike ride. I put her on my £1000 touring bike, whilst i rode my new 2 week old Carrera Vengeance Disc Ltd. I thought i would take on a nice easy flat(ish) ride along the Tyne River. Its a proper marked cycle route. Well half way into my journey past wallsend ship yards, there is a nice long downhill stretch. I decided to freewheel down it, I got so far down when i noticed a cyclist coming up the hill.

I went left, he went right. So we were both on the same side of the path, and i was doing between 10-15mph when i locked both disk brakes up. The entire path was covered in wet leaves, and i just skidded toward him without stopping. i turned the bars to my right to try and get clear of him, but my hands were still clinging onto the brakes for dear life.

I lost the bike from then on, and smashed into this bloke with my bike almost over on its right side, i went under, him & his bike went over me, and i don't know how i managed it, but i went skull first into the muddy shoot/leaf soup on the ground.

I instantly jumped up to ask him if he was all right. And all i saw was a nice steady stream of red flowing off the end of my beak and all over my right eye.

And i said to my cousin, that cant be good, and she said, nope i can see bone.

Bugger me, the other guy never once asked me if i was all right ( an indian btw)

Ambulance had a bugger finding me too, luckily all the other guy got was a slight grazed arm, and his chain come off.

Me on the other hand, my new Oakley polarised half jackets are knackered. frames ok but lenses aren't. My left/rear brake handle is hanging off, and my front wheel is badly buckled. At least the ambulance were nice enough to let me put it in back and take it to hospital.

And i still had to ride it 7 miles home when i came out of A&E with 7 stitches above my right eye, nice cut on my arm, and 2 nice grazes top & bottom of right thigh.

And the lessons learned from this

when i am riding on the road, and going to work i ALWAYS were a cycle helmet.

today though, because i was mostly on a flat cycle path i decided to leave it at home.

Thats one mistake i will not make again

Flanker37 wrote:

yeah fcuk his bike, a so called doctor, and i'm leaking blood all over my face, bike, clothes and ground and all he does is look bewildered and nothing else

Flanker37 wrote:

yeah fcuk his bike, a so called doctor, and i'm leaking blood all over my face, bike, clothes and ground and all he does is look bewildered and nothing else

fast as fupp wrote:

wtf is the fact he was asian got to do with it?

Flanker37 wrote:

Now that i've had time to relax and reflect

I certainly didn't make any racist comments, I never said it was his fault either. Nor mine, its just one of those cases where shoot happens.

It just bugs me that this guy just stood about like a dork for the 10 minutes it took the ambulance to arrive, not saying anything to me the whole time.

And i learned later that night from my cousin that he didn't even put his own chain back on. My cousin did that for him.... whats the matter, not want to get his precious doctor hands covered in oil

And as for my riding skills, for someone who hasnt had an accident in 33 years, who does a daily commute of 15 miles to work and back, who does an average bike ride 200 miles a week.... this is the first bike ive had with hydraulic disk brakes, so its a lot different from my tourer

dmclite wrote:

Flanker37 wrote:

Now that i've had time to relax and reflect

I certainly didn't make any racist comments, I never said it was his fault either. Nor mine, its just one of those cases where shoot happens.

It just bugs me that this guy just stood about like a dork for the 10 minutes it took the ambulance to arrive, not saying anything to me the whole time.

And i learned later that night from my cousin that he didn't even put his own chain back on. My cousin did that for him.... whats the matter, not want to get his precious doctor hands covered in oil

And as for my riding skills, for someone who hasnt had an accident in 33 years, who does a daily commute of 15 miles to work and back, who does an average bike ride 200 miles a week.... this is the first bike ive had with hydraulic disk brakes, so its a lot different from my tourer

Relax and reflect ?

You seem to be missing the point, " an indian btw" insinuates that for some reason being an "indian" was a major factor in the incident.

Whats the point, can't believe I'm still pursuing this as you seem to resent the fact the bloke YOU crashed into did not help you because he is Indian. Why don't you get off this forum and find a nice right wing BNP stylee forum where your views and comments will be welcomed rather than questioned.

Flanker37 wrote:

Now that i've had time to relax and reflect

I certainly didn't make any racist comments, I never said it was his fault either. Nor mine, its just one of those cases where shoot happens

It just bugs me that this guy just stood about like a dork for the 10 minutes it took the ambulance to arrive, not saying anything to me the whole time.

And i learned later that night from my cousin that he didn't even put his own chain back on. My cousin did that for him.... whats the matter, not want to get his precious doctor hands covered in oil

And as for my riding skills, for someone who hasnt had an accident in 33 years, who does a daily commute of 15 miles to work and back, who does an average bike ride 200 miles a week.... this is the first bike ive had with hydraulic disk brakes, so its a lot different from my tourer

Buckled_Rims wrote:

Interesting how everyone has picked this up as a racist statement. I have sneaking suspicion that most of those who object are from the south of England.

Be honest, if the statement had said " a Scotsman"....how many would have picked it out and complained?

Buckled_Rims wrote:

Interesting how everyone has picked this up as a racist statement. I have sneaking suspicion that most of those who object are from the south of England.

Be honest, if the statement had said " a Scotsman"....how many would have picked it out and complained?

I hear nouns being used as adjectives (I think that's correct, been over 35 years since I was at school) all the time. It sometimes irritates me because I call it the "WTF has that got to do with it?" syndrome and the answer usually is "well I'm trying to explain".

Maybe I'm being a bit hypersensitive to a fellow Geordie, but many of the statements leaves a bad taste of Culturism (against the way a person speaks), never mind racism.

I like forums, usenet etc. Most of the discussions are great, but every so often I see people jumping on a crusade bandwagon and being more bigoted then the offending article. One of the main things about forums is that sometimes you write the way you speak and that can look strange to anothers eyes. As the vast majority of those reading this article are south of the Leeds - Manchester line, a Geordie writing the way he speaks is going to read very different.

Also interesting to note, that the original poster might still be in shock after a bad crash, yet, nobody has mentioned that. If you've ever been in an accident you'll soon understand the systems of shock by the babbling. He was viewing the accident through his eyes and "telling the truth" as he saw it. If this is again true, then many of the previous posts were indeed bigoted reponses.


Interesting to see who shouts at me for speaking my mind.

Limburger wrote:

Buckled_Rims wrote:

Interesting how everyone has picked this up as a racist statement. I have sneaking suspicion that most of those who object are from the south of England.

Be honest, if the statement had said " a Scotsman"....how many would have picked it out and complained?

I hear nouns being used as adjectives (I think that's correct, been over 35 years since I was at school) all the time. It sometimes irritates me because I call it the "WTF has that got to do with it?" syndrome and the answer usually is "well I'm trying to explain".

Maybe I'm being a bit hypersensitive to a fellow Geordie, but many of the statements leaves a bad taste of Culturism (against the way a person speaks), never mind racism.

I like forums, usenet etc. Most of the discussions are great, but every so often I see people jumping on a crusade bandwagon and being more bigoted then the offending article. One of the main things about forums is that sometimes you write the way you speak and that can look strange to anothers eyes. As the vast majority of those reading this article are south of the Leeds - Manchester line, a Geordie writing the way he speaks is going to read very different.

Also interesting to note, that the original poster might still be in shock after a bad crash, yet, nobody has mentioned that. If you've ever been in an accident you'll soon understand the systems of shock by the babbling. He was viewing the accident through his eyes and "telling the truth" as he saw it. If this is again true, then many of the previous posts were indeed bigoted reponses.


Interesting to see who shouts at me for speaking my mind.

+1 for some common northern sense (Originally from Scumberland)

I like how the first thing people question on here is why the OP felt the need to elaborate on who he collided with.
He hit a bloke who was Indian (or Pakistani or Bangladeshi or martian FFS)
There is absolutely nothing racist about that.

All those who lambasted the OP for mentioning the cyclist was Indian are feeling bloody guilty about something. Suggests to me you have some sort of ultra sensitivity which is exactly the sort of crap the BNP pick up on.
Its like a headline from The Sun.

"Fascist Britain: Saying Indian a crime"

There is absolutely nothing wrong with describing someone. If I have to direct someone to a colleague I do so by describing what they look like. The Turkish guy with the beard, the Vietnamese girl. Thats not racist. Thats a good description of what they look like.

Also an English lesson for you.
Indian is not a race, its a nationality. Therefore the worst thing you could do is be xenophobic by making derogatory remarks based on someone being Indian.
There are only 5 races of human beings on the planet.
Caucasian includes English, the rest of Europe AND the Indian subcontinent. (Classically speaking, obviously migration buggers all that up).

Get out of that one.