La Vuelta 2023: Stage 13:- Formigal - Col du Tourmalet 135Kms ***Spoilers***

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,700
    TheBigBean said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    This is disastrous for the race.
    Jumbo procession all the way to Madrid.

    The other two UAE riders are still there though.
    Your confidence in Soler is duly noted.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    Roglic has no luck at all
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • commuterlegs
    commuterlegs Posts: 271
    So, if it's 3 Jumbo vs 2 UAE at the bottom of the Tourmalet (with the stage win up for grabs), how do we see it playing out?
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,510
    blazing_saddles said:

    TheBigBean said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    This is disastrous for the race.
    Jumbo procession all the way to Madrid.

    The other two UAE riders are still there though.
    Your confidence in Soler is duly noted.
    I've expected Kuss to win for a while now; however, Soler is only 26s behind and Kuss could easily crack under pressure, so I don't think it is a procession yet.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    kingstongraham said:

    What is Kirby talking about that Evenepoel would be beating JV if there weren't three of them? Evenepoel is obviously unwell to be dropped like that.

    You could have saved pixels and left it there.

    Thomas now dropped after looking lively early on.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533
    Ok, what happened between the descent from Aubisque and the start of the Spandelles that saw Landa +Jonas and Kuss +Carusso go off the front, and where/why is Roglic?
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,445
    gsk82 said:

    Which Jumbo leader is going to attach on spandelles? My guess is Vingergaard.

    Your crystal ball is being spot on so far this race.
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    I’d like my ‘Jumbo aren’t Movistar’ comment struck from the record please your honour
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Ok, what happened between the descent from Aubisque and the start of the Spandelles that saw Landa +Jonas and Kuss +Carusso go off the front, and where/why is Roglic?

    Remco dropped on the earlier climb - looks a bit rough. Looks like he’s losing more time on this climb too.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,584
    Remco isn't gonna win many GTs if he keeps getting ill on them
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    where/why is Roglic?

    They've come back to collect him now.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    I thought Dan Lloyd was making reference to putting up with Kirby when he apologised to viewers who have been with them since the start.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    Down to around a dozen riders with 59km left. Four are from JV.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    Remco nearly 3 minutes behind now.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,584
    Only just realised I have actually ridden every km of this route (over different days)
    _
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    Pross said:

    Down to around a dozen riders with 59km left. Four are from JV.

    Remco 3 mins down. Thomas going back to hang out with him.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    mooro said:

    Pross said:

    Down to around a dozen riders with 59km left. Four are from JV.

    Remco 3 mins down. Thomas going back to hang out with him.
    “Dave asked me to drop back to say we’re renegotiating the contract”.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751
    Pross said:

    Down to around a dozen riders with 59km left. Four are from JV.

    Gesink makes it 5.
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    Pross said:

    mooro said:

    Pross said:

    Down to around a dozen riders with 59km left. Four are from JV.

    Remco 3 mins down. Thomas going back to hang out with him.
    “Dave asked me to drop back to say we’re renegotiating the contract”.
    :D Bernal will drop back on the Tourmalet and have exactly the same chat with Thomas!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751
    mooro said:

    mooro said:

    I reckon Remco could be ok on this one. The tourmalet is super steady from that side apart from through the town halfway up and the final 500m kicker round the hairpin.

    Roglic wants to go for this but I can’t see Kuss being able to drop Remco. If it was upto to JV I reckon he’d solely support Kuss but Roglic is older and probably keener for two tours this year.

    Erm.. i never said this….
    This is like the polar opposite of @gsk82 on the ToB thread :)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133
    Must be weird for Jumbo, I assume their pan was to just set a defensive pace and then maybe attack on the Tourmalet but then suddenly found one of the biggest rivals and many other riders dropped by mid stage.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,700
    If Almeida does get back on, there will be 6 Jumbots in the lead group.

    The most surprising thing left to happen in this race, would be if one of them had a bad day.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751
    Lenny's back :)
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,700
    So Remco not sick according to the team…
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    Leferre saying Remco isnt sick at all. He does sound like a mint boss.
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    This is such an amazing area. Been climbing in the Valle de ordesa just over the border and its all stunning.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,790
    Looks hot in them.hills
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    Carlton “the incline is very very tough, it never falls below 7.5% other than when it does and drops to 5% in the middle”
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,700
    edited September 2023
    Kirby: The Western side faces East and the Eastern side faces West.
    McEwen: Err the Western side faces West, Carlton. :D
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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