TDF 2023: Stage 6:- Tarbes to Cauterets, 145km ***Spoilers***

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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    24s plus the 4s bonus for Pog
  • feelgoodlost
    feelgoodlost Posts: 337
    You neck that San Pellegrino, Baller.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited July 2023
    Johannessen best of the rest.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Recent months have not all gone the way I'd hoped but it does mean I get to watch this...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,057
    Hmm, Vin couldn't respond, the big two game on for GC.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    Jumbo play silly games and win silly prizes

    Yes.
    They lose time, but still have to work for the yellow jersey, now.
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  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,978
    When racing is good, it's really good. Terrific!
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    Vingegaard looks really cooked
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    feelgoodlost said:

    You neck that San Pellegrino, Baller.

    I can't think of anything harder to neck than San Pellegrino...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited July 2023
    Guerreiro in 4th with Shaw 5th, Hindley leads Rodriguez and Yates over the line 2' 39" down.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Gap given as 24" so it's 28" regained in total.
    Which means Vingegaard leads this tour by 25".
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  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    What a couple of days. Great change from the usual schlep around northern France
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Pog used the motos well at the start of his attack.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    What do you make of that ?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    mididoctors said:

    What do you make of that ?

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    They should have backed off when pog stayed on the wheel

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    Great stage.
    Not seen the Tourmalet raced like that in... well not sure I ever have.
    Ballsy from Jonas, brilliantly handled from Pog, aand Wout is still Wow!

    If Pog hadn't been able to hang in then that was a possible knock-out blow. They risked it, they lost, but only half a minute and still have the advantage (and yellow). Big boost for Pog though.

    The race is never done in the 1st week.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Sepp Kuss has turned from mountain goat to mountain politician for some rather uncomfortable questions.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334
    I don't really blame JV for trying to stick the boot in today - attack your opponent when he's at his weakest and all that. It's making for a great narrative as a neutral.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    mididoctors said:

    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    They should have backed off when pog stayed on the wheel

    That's true - it felt a decent tactic given what happened yesterday, and it worked to reduce it down to just the two contenders.

    I think the other mistake was going so hard when WVA pulled over and Pog wasn't getting dropped.

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Bora could have played that better
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    mididoctors said:

    Bora could have played that better

    Noob behaviour when you know your man isn’t THE man
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    Unnecessary too
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    kingstongraham said:

    mididoctors said:

    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    They should have backed off when pog stayed on the wheel

    That's true - it felt a decent tactic given what happened yesterday, and it worked to reduce it down to just the two contenders.

    I think the other mistake was going so hard when WVA pulled over and Pog wasn't getting dropped.

    There was a chance to drop him on the steeper section, it was a risk. I don't think it really played into the final result that much, Pogs attack was savage, on the part of the climb that suited him far better - he would have done it anyway
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
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    rick_chasey said:

    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    Unnecessary too
    Worth the risk. As Pog just said, if he couldn't hold on the Tourmalet he migt as well have gone home
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    Unnecessary too
    Worth the risk. As Pog just said, if he couldn't hold on the Tourmalet he migt as well have gone home
    Disagreeeeee

    but it makes for better racing, so won't complain.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Given how badly he cracked yesterday, Jumbo had to go for it today.
    No half measures, either.
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    When was the last time that 10th place was more than 5 minutes behind after only 6 stages :o
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    rick_chasey said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Pross said:

    Burning off Kuss on the Tourmalet always felt risky.

    Unnecessary too
    Worth the risk. As Pog just said, if he couldn't hold on the Tourmalet he migt as well have gone home
    Disagreeeeee

    but it makes for better racing, so won't complain.
    They've looked at where Pog might be vulnerable (long and steep and high), looked at how he's come into this race (less underbaked than we thought yesterday, but that's hindsight) and looked at where that could be exploited. Today was a day to try, they rolled the dice and lost about 30" for quite a bit of work.

    If they'd succeeded then they might have put 2 minutes into Pog with the rest of the GC hopefuls, that's a serious prize to roll for.

    Good for the race, not so good for JV, but no tragedy
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