Paris-Nice 2023 ***Spoilers
Joining their party will be a host of top sprinters, but a rather lightweight under card of GC riders.
(S Yates, Gaudu, Bardet, Martinez, Powless, Skejlmose, Jorgenson, Haig but not much else.)
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What has Danni Martinez done to upset you, @blazing_saddles ?0
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You forgot about Warbasse too. He claims to have been passing Pog lots in training this winter.
Think there's more genuine GC contenders in J-V's team for T-A than there are in the entire P-N field.================================
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Omission rectified.andyp said:What has Danni Martinez done to upset you, @blazing_saddles ?
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Merlier from Bennett from Mads in today’s sprint.
Pogacar picks up 6 bonus seconds in the intermediates and is already 3rd on GC. Maybe he’s worried about Jumbo and the TTT on Tuesday.0 -
I think the TTT might be the decisive stage given the insane strength of JV's TT squad overall, so sensible to build pressure on JV wherever Pog can.red.rider said:Merlier from Bennett from Mads in today’s sprint.
Pogacar picks up 6 bonus seconds in the intermediates and is already 3rd on GC. Maybe he’s worried about Jumbo and the TTT on Tuesday.1 -
Crash"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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1.2km to go, after a 90kmh bunch descent, peloton still going over 60kmh. Hope the guy with the yellow flag trying to tell them there's a lane divider is OK.mididoctors said:Crash
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Pedersen wins the reduced sprint from Kooij.
Weird that JV don't think Kooij is up to the job of sprinting in a GT yet.0 -
De Lie finding these sprints a step up in class.
Once again out of position when the time came."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I think it might have been Beullens who was piloting him through before they broke off to show the crash, then all of a sudden they went back (at the roundabout) - he was at the front and De Lie was in about 25th. No chance from there.blazing_saddles said:De Lie finding these sprints a step up in class.
Once again out of position when the time came.0 -
The swinging left and right around the roundabout made a mess of it for quite a lot of riders. It seemed a lot more rollercoasterish than initially implied, and one that favoured the bold.
(Incidentally, quite a few fallers today - looked partly like bunch rustiness, but some of the road furniture looked a little evil)0 -
Lesson learned - never pick the new kid for PTP after seeing one (impressive) performance by him.blazing_saddles said:De Lie finding these sprints a step up in class.
Once again out of position when the time came.0 -
Merlier and Bennett were out of position as well. Think it's more down to the parcours. De Lie ought to be more of a Pedersen type classics sprinter/rider than a pure sprinter, so might not really always be in it in bunch sprints even in future years.Pross said:
Lesson learned - never pick the new kid for PTP after seeing one (impressive) performance by him.blazing_saddles said:De Lie finding these sprints a step up in class.
Once again out of position when the time came.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
The run in was difficult as who took charge was unclear seeing no break was up the road ... That mass half wheeling plays with your head"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Fortune favours the brave. Dodgy run in, handled perfectly by Mads P. Nice to see Magnus Cort in 3rd as wellWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Pure sprinters being overly reliant on their lead out trains is a good talking point for a cycling podcast this week. 😉PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
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Surely they want to get the fastest time for their GC rider?No_Ta_Doctor said:
I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
That means him and whoever can drag him across the line. Seems too obvious.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
JV have 5 decent TT riders in the team though, so not much benefit to them of riding it differently until the last km.pblakeney said:
Surely they want to get the fastest time for their GC rider?No_Ta_Doctor said:
I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
That means him and whoever can drag him across the line. Seems too obvious.
UAE might find it quicker to burn off riders a bit earlier and leave only 3 riders who can keep up the pace.0 -
Schmid is out, so Quickstep have nothing approaching a GC rider, and a couple of smart TT riders. They shouldn't hang around for anyone who can't keep up.0
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That's what I meant by "whoever can drag him across the line".kingstongraham said:
JV have 5 decent TT riders in the team though, so not much benefit to them of riding it differently until the last km.pblakeney said:
Surely they want to get the fastest time for their GC rider?No_Ta_Doctor said:
I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
That means him and whoever can drag him across the line. Seems too obvious.
UAE might find it quicker to burn off riders a bit earlier and leave only 3 riders who can keep up the pace.
A strong team will have more riders at the pointy end of the race.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Lotto going solo to the line"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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How early do they jettison weight ? Too soon you might over cook it mid coursepblakeney said:
Surely they want to get the fastest time for their GC rider?No_Ta_Doctor said:
I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
That means him and whoever can drag him across the line. Seems too obvious."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Wtf jumbo helmets"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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This is quite interesting"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Too late and your GC rider is losing time.mididoctors said:
How early do they jettison weight ? Too soon you might over cook it mid coursepblakeney said:
Surely they want to get the fastest time for their GC rider?No_Ta_Doctor said:
I doubt anyone has really got deep into strategy tbh. Jumbo-Visma say they're not going to ride differently, UAE might do.mididoctors said:Are we going to see some weird surprises in the ttt because of the new rules letting a strong tester not being held back in final few km having to keep their 3rd/5th man across the line ?
That means him and whoever can drag him across the line. Seems too obvious.
That's the DS's cross to bear. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yates boosting his position a bit here"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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I'm quite enjoying this - a bit more jeopardy and intrigue than the standard TTT0
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Pog saving a good handful.of secs on his own"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0