Dog owners (rant)

pblakeney

photonic69 said:

I'm amazed by how many dog owners believe their dogs understand English. Feckers.

Punch it in the head before it gets too near.

Dog skulls are vey thick.
If you can't impact the jaws then the ribs or balls are the best choice.

Stevo_666

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Three walks/runs this week and three times I've been snapped at by dogs. What the swear filter is going on? Why have people just stopped training dogs!!!

I have a dog. If it walked within 10 feet of another person that wasn't actively welcoming it I would be mortified.

I can't work out if I'm angrier at the people who just lack any control or the posh twunts who just give it the old "he'll just lick you". First, I don't want to be licked by something that's just eaten a load of sheepshit thanks, and Second, At what point do I assume that it won't "just be a lick" and hit it back?

One today ran up to me barking for 15 odd seconds before the owner thought to do anything. Then laughed about it. Flip me she nearly got a mouthful of her own sheepshit!

😡😡😡😡😡

Have to say I don't get these problems myself and this is coming from someone who takes his dogs to places where dogs can be let off the lead so we come across a lot of other dogs off the lead. Our dogs my occasionally approach people out of curiosity or if they see them with treats but are never aggressive and will take the hint if they aren't welcome.

Some people don't like dogs - each to their own. Best if they stay away from places where dogs are allowed off the lead if being approached by one causes them that much distress or offence.

Not being a dog owner I don’t look for signs about leads so could you indicate where these places are likely to be?

Just look for places where there aren't signs that say dogs need to be kept on a lead.

pangolin

Cool will stay away from those places

rick_chasey

pblakeney said:

Dogs [snip] are very thick.

😜

Stevo_666

Reading some of the posts on here, I can understand why some folks prefer dogs to people...

pblakeney

rick_chasey said:

pblakeney said:

Dogs [snip] are very thick.

😜

No. Not fair. Certain dog owners are thick.

pinno

One dog, whilst I was cycling, was intent on standing in the middle of the road, furled lip bearing teeth, hair on end - no one about. Which was good because I bounced a stone off his head, he squealed and ran off.
Another dog repeatedly came running down the long drive from the house where he lived and which I pass regularly (free to roam when the owner was away at work). Very aggressive, mixed cross of some description.
On one occasion, I was struggling into a headwind and I thought he might catch me. So I got off the bike and stood large in the road. This stand off lasted long enough for the cattle in the adjacent field to line up in their curiosity. There was nothing to hand to chuck at the dog so I slowly backed towards the field thinking I may just hop over the gate and good luck to the damn dog if he followed me in.
Dogs like the above should not be free to roam.

Once upon a time, I was delivering building supplies to a house in Herefordshire. I decided after the drop off to sit on this bench and have lunch. 2 Spaniels approached me and kept me company for the next 30 mins, dribbling at the sight of me eating and I shared a biscuit between them. Very amicable. Sat as good as gold and patiently. Didn't jump up on me (I hate that). Some neighbour walked by and I asked who's dogs they were and he replied that 'they live there' (pointing), the owner was at work and the dogs are free to wander.
I got up and said 'home - off you go' and they obliged.

Riding my bike just last spring, I heard odd foot steps behind me and then with a bit if a start, this giant Lurcher appeared to my right, running on and off the verge.
He seemed happy enough but I thought I may stop him and try to find his owner. I slowed, he slowed and I managed to calmly grab his collar. The next few moments was spent trying to hold the dog whilst unclipping and turning the other wat. Dog went with me without issue (I was apprehensive about grabbing his collar in case he jerked away or took exception). I walked with the dog and found the (female) owner who was grateful I had retrieved him.
A brief conversation followed where I came to the conclusion that the owner had zero control over him. He was lovely and I felt sorry for the dog - he just seemed to want to run and run.
I see her regularly now but the dog is always on a lead. It's a Lurcher, it needs exercise and lots of it ffs.

Dog's are like people - some I can't stand and some I find fun and genial.

I could of course mention the filthy fcuking bsatards who used to use our can banks (dotted all over Dumfries and Galloway) to deposit their dog siht but I won't.
I don't blame the dogs but I think the dog license should be re-instated. No license, no dog.

ddraver

Stevo_666 said:

Reading some of the posts on here, I can understand why some folks prefer dogs to people...

Are we to assume dogs are a left wing conspiracy too?

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Three walks/runs this week and three times I've been snapped at by dogs. What the swear filter is going on? Why have people just stopped training dogs!!!

I have a dog. If it walked within 10 feet of another person that wasn't actively welcoming it I would be mortified.

I can't work out if I'm angrier at the people who just lack any control or the posh twunts who just give it the old "he'll just lick you". First, I don't want to be licked by something that's just eaten a load of sheepshit thanks, and Second, At what point do I assume that it won't "just be a lick" and hit it back?

One today ran up to me barking for 15 odd seconds before the owner thought to do anything. Then laughed about it. Flip me she nearly got a mouthful of her own sheepshit!

😡😡😡😡😡

Have to say I don't get these problems myself and this is coming from someone who takes his dogs to places where dogs can be let off the lead so we come across a lot of other dogs off the lead. Our dogs my occasionally approach people out of curiosity or if they see them with treats but are never aggressive and will take the hint if they aren't welcome.

Some people don't like dogs - each to their own. Best if they stay away from places where dogs are allowed off the lead if being approached by one causes them that much distress or offence.

Not being a dog owner I don’t look for signs about leads so could you indicate where these places are likely to be?

Just look for places where there aren't signs that say dogs need to be kept on a lead.

So your answer to dog owners having no control on their dogs off the lead is for other people to avoid them? That would put every beach and most parks / open spaces out of bounds for them in these parts.

Around here there was a ban on dogs being exercised on sports pitches. The Council had signs everywhere and were very proactive in fining people. Loads of local gig owners were up in arms about the Council trying to make money out of them ignoring the fact that all they had to do was obey the signs and only walk their dogs in the acres of park that weren’t sports pitches. There’s a small area of my local National Trust grounds where dogs are allowed off the lead and the rest is supposed to be on the lead but that gets ignored by virtually all dog owners with no action taken.

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

monkimark

The common near my house has areas where dogs should be on leads as well as a byelaw that all dogs should be 'under control'. Both roundly ignored.
There is also a field that is very well signed about dogs being on leads in the summer because it has skylarks nesting - again, ignored by a lot of owners.

TheBigBean

No one has done the killing sheep bit yet.

Stevo_666

Pross said:

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

Spare us the leftiebollox - we've got enough of those threads already. Same goes for Raver boy.

rick_chasey

pblakeney said:

rick_chasey said:

pblakeney said:

Dogs [snip] are very thick.

😜

No. Not fair. Certain dog owners are thick.

Unrelated comment.

If only the dogs could read the signs eh?

DeVlaeminck

I don't really find dogs a problem, a Sheltie did nip me once when I was out running but that's about it, I think the owner was more bothered about it than me. Obviously the bigger the dog the bigger the responsibility and nobody wants an uncontrolled Cane Corso running up to them - which is the main reason I've never bought a really big dog - even if friendly others are going to be wary .

Pic of my dog passing her KC Good Citizen bronze yesterday.

ddraver

Stevo_666 said:

Pross said:

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

Spare us the leftiebollox - we've got enough of those threads already. Same goes for Raver boy.

Yes then 🤣

I'll add it to the list. Anything else this week?

First.Aspect

DeVlaeminck said:

I don't really find dogs a problem, a Sheltie did nip me once when I was out running but that's about it, I think the owner was more bothered about it than me. Obviously the bigger the dog the bigger the responsibility and nobody wants an uncontrolled Cane Corso running up to them - which is the main reason I've never bought a really big dog - even if friendly others are going to be wary .

Pic of my dog passing her KC Good Citizen bronze yesterday.

You have accidentally purchased an alpaca.

johngti

There’s definitely a problem with lots of lockdown dogs not getting socialised or trained. There’s a field around the corner that everyone knows is where dogs go for off leaf walks, which is great. Except when the aforementioned unsocialised/untrained big dogs are let off and terrorise the smaller ones.

Anyway, now our dog has finally recovered from his major abdominal surgery, I’m going to pop him down there

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

Stevo_666 said:

Pross said:

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

Spare us the leftiebollox - we've got enough of those threads already. Same goes for Raver boy.

Yes then 🤣

I'll add it to the list. Anything else this week?

I thought you might want to keep it on topic as you're the OP. But you couldn't resist I guess. All we need now is for some saddo to post a picture of a Sea Lion before you get back under your little bridge

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

Pross said:

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

Spare us the leftiebollox - we've got enough of those threads already. Same goes for Raver boy.

If leftiebollox means considering the impact of my actions on other people then count me in. Far better the the selfish ‘there’s nothing saying I can’t do this so if others don’t like it they can fvck off somewhere else’ attitude in my opinion. I’ve had dogs, often several dogs, for all but 2 years of my life and have never had an issue keeping them on a lead.

orraloon

Stevo_666 said:

Pross said:

Your response is very Tory ‘I’m alright’.

Spare us the leftiebollox - we've got enough of those threads already. Same goes for Raver boy.

Very #toryscum rightieshite: 'I'm alright, fuxx everyone else'.

rjsterry

Met a very nice beagle called Bagel yesterday. Popped out of a hedge and trotted along with us for half a mile but didn't like the rowdy black Labs behind someone's gate and decided to turn back. No owner in sight.

First.Aspect

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes tike to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

Ditto. I had dogs when I lived and worked on a farm, and I could be with them & doing stuff with them a lot of the day.

I don't get the whole thing about having dogs and then paying other people to walk them. If they are just there to sit on your lap or at your feet in the evening, get an interactive cuddly toy and some AA batteries.

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes tike to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

Ditto. I had dogs when I lived and worked on a farm, and I could be with them & doing stuff with them a lot of the day.

I don't get the whole thing about having dogs and then paying other people to walk them. If they are just there to sit on your lap or at your feet in the evening, get an interactive cuddly toy and some AA batteries.

Or a ragdol cat.

But even cats need entertainment. Indoor = cruel. Outdoor = problem for others, depending on where you live.

Easy for me to say I suppose.

Pross

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

I agree with most of that other than the 'not on a lead' bit. Most rural environments they should be on a lead as you'll be walking through fields with livestock. Mine gets to walk for hours in the countryside on a long lead and gets given the chance to sniff when he wants (good for calming him). He'll be joining me on runs soon as well now he's fully developed.

First.Aspect

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

I agree with most of that other than the 'not on a lead' bit. Most rural environments they should be on a lead as you'll be walking through fields with livestock. Mine gets to walk for hours in the countryside on a long lead and gets given the chance to sniff when he wants (good for calming him). He'll be joining me on runs soon as well now he's fully developed.

No one should be walking through fields of grazing animals with an off lead dog anyway. Neither is it reasonable for millions or acres of heath land sparsely populated by sheep to require dogs on leads. There is a balance to be struck, with a strong onus on having your dog under control.

Anyway, I can think of half a dozen places within 5 mins of here where dogs can run free without encountering a sheep. Same applies to most places I've ever lived. Perhaps part of being a responsible dog owner is showing judgement about where one self entitledly walks it.

First.Aspect

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

I agree with most of that other than the 'not on a lead' bit. Most rural environments they should be on a lead as you'll be walking through fields with livestock. Mine gets to walk for hours in the countryside on a long lead and gets given the chance to sniff when he wants (good for calming him). He'll be joining me on runs soon as well now he's fully developed.

No one should be walking through fields of grazing animals with an off lead dog anyway. Neither is it reasonable for millions or acres of heath land sparsely populated by sheep to require dogs on leads. There is a balance to be struck, with a strong onus on having your dog under control.

Anyway, I can think of half a dozen places within 5 mins of here where dogs can run free without encountering a sheep. Same applies to most places I've ever lived. Perhaps part of being a responsible dog owner is showing judgement about where one self entitledly walks it.

Or an on-lead dog, to be honest. Sheep tend not to know the difference.

Pross

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

I agree with most of that other than the 'not on a lead' bit. Most rural environments they should be on a lead as you'll be walking through fields with livestock. Mine gets to walk for hours in the countryside on a long lead and gets given the chance to sniff when he wants (good for calming him). He'll be joining me on runs soon as well now he's fully developed.

No one should be walking through fields of grazing animals with an off lead dog anyway. Neither is it reasonable for millions or acres of heath land sparsely populated by sheep to require dogs on leads. There is a balance to be struck, with a strong onus on having your dog under control.

Anyway, I can think of half a dozen places within 5 mins of here where dogs can run free without encountering a sheep. Same applies to most places I've ever lived. Perhaps part of being a responsible dog owner is showing judgement about where one self entitledly walks it.

Definitely, I have fields within a couple of hundred metres of my house that have public footpaths leading to a wood that I like to take my dog to. However, the fields do have livestock in them and when I see sheep or cows on the route through the field I go somewhere else. On the other hand I've recently seen dog owners regularly using the field the footpath crosses through as though it was their own land and letting their dogs run all over it, seeminly blissfully unaware that there are sheep in another part of the field with nothing stopping their dog getting to them. My only disagreement with what you've said is that if you own a dog you should be able to walk it not on a lead. There are many reasons for keeping even the best trained dogs on a lead at least some of the time and I'm not sure why it would be essential for a dog to walk off the lead.

First.Aspect

My argument was that if you want a dog, make sure you have some places to take it to run around off a lead. So not a suggestion that leads are not needed, but instead a suggestion that dog owners make the effort to take their animals places where its safe for them to be off a lead. Too many dogs don't get this because the owners can't be bothered or don't have time.

TheBigBean

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There is an argument that you shouldn't have a dog unless you have a dog friendly lifestyle. This includes time to train and walk them, and space to walk them, not on a lead. If you live in a way or in a place that makes this too hard, don't get a dog. It is that simple.

I live in an animal friendly rural location, but I don't think working long hours and cycling is particularly compatible with the needs of a dog, even though it would be nice to have one. So I don't have a dog.

I agree with most of that other than the 'not on a lead' bit. Most rural environments they should be on a lead as you'll be walking through fields with livestock. Mine gets to walk for hours in the countryside on a long lead and gets given the chance to sniff when he wants (good for calming him). He'll be joining me on runs soon as well now he's fully developed.

No one should be walking through fields of grazing animals with an off lead dog anyway. Neither is it reasonable for millions or acres of heath land sparsely populated by sheep to require dogs on leads. There is a balance to be struck, with a strong onus on having your dog under control.

Anyway, I can think of half a dozen places within 5 mins of here where dogs can run free without encountering a sheep. Same applies to most places I've ever lived. Perhaps part of being a responsible dog owner is showing judgement about where one self entitledly walks it.

This leads to quite a dead sheep each year because owners don't know how their dogs will react if they see something that looks tasty. As long as the dog owners compensate the farmers for the loss, it seems fine, but apparently that never happens.