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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Wonder if the same court would have fined a fat bloke on a bike more than a thin one for running the lights? Could be a nice little money spinner in the UK.
    Don't see many fat blokes on bikes.
    Do you have traffic lights?
    Technically no but there are 3 pedestrian crossings with lights.

    Fat bloke on bike approaching fat bloke on crossing:
    An unstoppable force moving towards an immovable object .
    That's just pub sumo without the beer.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,317
    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Wonder if the same court would have fined a fat bloke on a bike more than a thin one for running the lights? Could be a nice little money spinner in the UK.
    Don't see many fat blokes on bikes.
    Do you have traffic lights?
    Technically no but there are 3 pedestrian crossings with lights.

    Fat bloke on bike approaching fat bloke on crossing:
    An unstoppable force moving towards an immovable object .
    That's just pub sumo without the beer.
    Potentially entertaining but for the fact that the unstoppable force would be going all too slowly for any real drama above slo mo.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pinno said:

    I'd hate for a limiter to kick in whilst overtaking.

    I guess they don't want you overtaking anyway if you need to go over the limit to do it.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398

    pinno said:

    I'd hate for a limiter to kick in whilst overtaking.

    I guess they don't want you overtaking anyway if you need to go over the limit to do it.
    The faster you can get your overtaking done, the less time you spend on the wrong side of the road. So it's usually safer to get past as quickly as possible, I.e. faster = safer when overtaking. I like having that safety feature on my car.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    I very rarely overtake other cars when i'm driving except on the motorway, maybe the occasional bike or tractor. I don't feel like I really get stuck behind anyone who is going to slow me down enough to bother.

    On the motorbike I pass hundreds every day but rarely need to use much speed to get past them.
    It would take some getting used to if the power cut out when I hit the limit though.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    monkimark said:

    I very rarely overtake other cars when i'm driving except on the motorway, maybe the occasional bike or tractor. I don't feel like I really get stuck behind anyone who is going to slow me down enough to bother.

    On the motorbike I pass hundreds every day but rarely need to use much speed to get past them.
    It would take some getting used to if the power cut out when I hit the limit though.

    It's not that often I have to either, but most of us will know how annoying it is getting stuck behind dithering pensioners in their Nissan Micras exercising their democratic right to do 10-20mph below the limit.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Stevo_666 said:

    monkimark said:

    I very rarely overtake other cars when i'm driving except on the motorway, maybe the occasional bike or tractor. I don't feel like I really get stuck behind anyone who is going to slow me down enough to bother.

    On the motorbike I pass hundreds every day but rarely need to use much speed to get past them.
    It would take some getting used to if the power cut out when I hit the limit though.

    It's not that often I have to either, but most of us will know how annoying it is getting stuck behind dithering pensioners in their Nissan Micras exercising their democratic right to do 10-20mph below the limit.
    I had a blat down to the borders this week thet turned put not to be a blat because no one does more than 40mph any more. I swear people are trying to save fuel.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398

    Stevo_666 said:

    monkimark said:

    I very rarely overtake other cars when i'm driving except on the motorway, maybe the occasional bike or tractor. I don't feel like I really get stuck behind anyone who is going to slow me down enough to bother.

    On the motorbike I pass hundreds every day but rarely need to use much speed to get past them.
    It would take some getting used to if the power cut out when I hit the limit though.

    It's not that often I have to either, but most of us will know how annoying it is getting stuck behind dithering pensioners in their Nissan Micras exercising their democratic right to do 10-20mph below the limit.
    I had a blat down to the borders this week thet turned put not to be a blat because no one does more than 40mph any more. I swear people are trying to save fuel.
    Just tell them if they go faster, they'll get there quicker and so use less fuel as they're driving for a shorter time :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327

    Stevo_666 said:

    monkimark said:

    I very rarely overtake other cars when i'm driving except on the motorway, maybe the occasional bike or tractor. I don't feel like I really get stuck behind anyone who is going to slow me down enough to bother.

    On the motorbike I pass hundreds every day but rarely need to use much speed to get past them.
    It would take some getting used to if the power cut out when I hit the limit though.

    It's not that often I have to either, but most of us will know how annoying it is getting stuck behind dithering pensioners in their Nissan Micras exercising their democratic right to do 10-20mph below the limit.
    I had a blat down to the borders this week thet turned put not to be a blat because no one does more than 40mph any more. I swear people are trying to save fuel.
    I noticed this today. I was clearly going the fastest on the dual carriageway.
    I was doing 70mph.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Dunno, I think that's just a sort of quantum group think that happens sometimes.

    "Everyone is going slow so I had also better go slow until we're past the problem, which will appear shortly...any minute now..."
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    Nah. There has been a gradual increase in the number of slow drivers for a while now. Just blatantly obvious today.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    I mentioned in the intrigue thread a couple of weeks back.
    I drive pretty consistently speedwise. Some days I’m one of the fastest, some days one of the slowest.
    I’m also intrigued by the waves of speed. You suddenly get half a dozen cars come bombing past within a few seconds of each other.
    Obviously you sometimes get a couple of planks racing each other, but this is more people getting sucked along by others actions.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    morstar said:

    I mentioned in the intrigue thread a couple of weeks back.
    I drive pretty consistently speedwise. Some days I’m one of the fastest, some days one of the slowest.
    I’m also intrigued by the waves of speed. You suddenly get half a dozen cars come bombing past within a few seconds of each other.
    Obviously you sometimes get a couple of planks racing each other, but this is more people getting sucked along by others actions.

    Uphill downhill?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,317

    pinno said:

    I'd hate for a limiter to kick in whilst overtaking.

    I guess they don't want you overtaking anyway if you need to go over the limit to do it.
    Sort of.

    For example; they have restricted trucks to 40mph along the A75 for long sections. Some hauliers have switched to the Irish route via Liverpool because of the delays of the slow A75 + fuel costs.
    So you can get a line of 3,4,5 + trucks and you have limited overtaking or you may be stuck for miles and miles, especially when there are cars in front of you behind the trucks.
    At 40mph, this is a problem. At 56, it's simply annoying. Legally, as it's an A road, I could go at 60mph but the real world is such that I will drive at 60-70 knowing that the 11% (unwritten rule) will mean it's unlikely that I would get pulled over.
    If some electronic device stops me from going over 60, trying to overtake a truck doing 56mph would be dangerous and virtually impossible.
    So I would have to sit there at 56 (theoretically) for most of 105 miles. With roundabouts and various points where there are 30mph limits, you could easily be expected to spend 3+ hours making that distance when it already can often take 2 hours just to get to Dumfries because of slow vehicles.

    The A9 was notorious for accidents and to a certain extent, it' still is. They put radar cameras along long sections of it and now the A9 has gone from a good drive to a PITFA. People see the yellow cameras and drive at 45mph. Sometimes occupying both lanes.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    I mentioned in the intrigue thread a couple of weeks back.
    I drive pretty consistently speedwise. Some days I’m one of the fastest, some days one of the slowest.
    I’m also intrigued by the waves of speed. You suddenly get half a dozen cars come bombing past within a few seconds of each other.
    Obviously you sometimes get a couple of planks racing each other, but this is more people getting sucked along by others actions.

    Uphill downhill?
    No, I mainly drive motorways and slap the limiter on.
    Some days I will be in the fastest 5% or vehicles. Sometimes in the slower half.
    The limiter is always the same.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    That 11% unwritten rule you mention is actually a 10% + 2mph written 'rule' (ACPO guidelines).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    We get an issue on the M4 near me where there is a 50mph environmental speed limit enforced by average speed cameras. When the motorway is busy it can become very difficult to safely get over from lane 3 to exit at a slip road. You either have to know the area well enough to get to lane 1 just before the speed limit starts or hope someone will let you in
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,796
    I seem to overtake more cars when I'm on my bicycle than in my car. Usually all the cars that have badly passed me a few minutes earlier. Sooooo satisfying.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Pross said:

    We get an issue on the M4 near me where there is a 50mph environmental speed limit enforced by average speed cameras. When the motorway is busy it can become very difficult to safely get over from lane 3 to exit at a slip road. You either have to know the area well enough to get to lane 1 just before the speed limit starts or hope someone will let you in

    It’s definitely easier to drive on a motorway when you are a faster vehicle.
    When I did start self moderating my driving a few years back, I discovered a whole new set of challenges I was previously unaware of.
    Blind spot campers are a particular joy.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    I mentioned in the intrigue thread a couple of weeks back.
    I drive pretty consistently speedwise. Some days I’m one of the fastest, some days one of the slowest.
    I’m also intrigued by the waves of speed. You suddenly get half a dozen cars come bombing past within a few seconds of each other.
    Obviously you sometimes get a couple of planks racing each other, but this is more people getting sucked along by others actions.

    Uphill downhill?
    No, I mainly drive motorways and slap the limiter on.
    Some days I will be in the fastest 5% or vehicles. Sometimes in the slower half.
    The limiter is always the same.
    Everyone else?

    In an underpowered car I am slower uphill and faster downhill. No limiter option so I just hold the gas pedal as evenly as possible.

    So you’ll pass me uphill and I’ll probably pass back downhill.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    I mentioned in the intrigue thread a couple of weeks back.
    I drive pretty consistently speedwise. Some days I’m one of the fastest, some days one of the slowest.
    I’m also intrigued by the waves of speed. You suddenly get half a dozen cars come bombing past within a few seconds of each other.
    Obviously you sometimes get a couple of planks racing each other, but this is more people getting sucked along by others actions.

    Uphill downhill?
    No, I mainly drive motorways and slap the limiter on.
    Some days I will be in the fastest 5% or vehicles. Sometimes in the slower half.
    The limiter is always the same.
    Everyone else?

    In an underpowered car I am slower uphill and faster downhill. No limiter option so I just hold the gas pedal as evenly as possible.

    So you’ll pass me uphill and I’ll probably pass back downhill.
    There is definitely a bit of variation with undulations but no, there is a blatant collective inconsistency in how people drive from one trip to the next.
    I’m usually pretty good at identifying patterns in behaviour and commonalities but I have no idea what the common factors are to this day.
    It’s not consistent to weather, time of day or route.

    Although I will say, driving on motorways in work time (large proportion of regular commuters or drivers) is very different to the weekends.
    The former group is less patient but more skilled. Weekend is far more random.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    morstar said:


    ...
    Although I will say, driving on motorways in work time (large proportion of regular commuters or drivers) is very different to the weekends.
    The former group is less patient but more skilled. Weekend is far more random.

    This is very true. Commuting amounts other commuters and commercial drivers is much more pleasant than weekend driving. Until you get to a quiet road...
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    pblakeney said:

    Nah. There has been a gradual increase in the number of slow drivers for a while now. Just blatantly obvious today.

    True, there do seem to be more mobile chicanes these days. I reckon too many people are swallowing the line that speed is the only thing that matters, while still in many cases managing to drive badly and in the process slowing up the rest of us - until we overtake them, then they try to speed up :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    I doubt they would drive any better if they sped up, probably better to be held up by them than run over by them.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It is remarkable how little time you save though.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    It is remarkable how little time you save though.

    Think you are missing the point of going for a blat, RC. You can even blat in a polo.

    People who are hypermiling prevent this.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    edited August 2022

    The new GT3 RS looks like a bit of a dogs dinner to me. I know it's all about aerodynamics, but, meh.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167


    The new GT3 RS looks like a bit of a dogs dinner to me. I know it's all about aerodynamics, but, meh.

    Robots in disguise....
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,317
    edited August 2022
    The aesthetics are slowly being f-ucked with each new model of the 911.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!