CX Season 2021/22 thread...

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    Honsinger's perennial slow starts on a fast course where the pace will be relentless in the first 3 laps with nothing to really get the leaders bogged down in, will preclude her from any possible podium. Perhaps a top 10 would be her best result.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    andyrac said:


    For the sport, you'd probably like to see the regular CX riders win the titles - so you see the rainbow jersey all season long.

    No outsider is going to win the men's or women's CXWC's.
    There's a faint chance Pieters or Van Empel could but only faint.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    They'll both be riding the u23 women's race, so it is a very, very faint chance.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    Honsinger will benefit from the smaller field at the start, but unless it's heavy mud, I can't see her troubling the podium. I'd have thought Rochette is the best chance of a north American medal in the elite races, but she's an outsider.
  • andyp said:

    Honsinger will benefit from the smaller field at the start, but unless it's heavy mud, I can't see her troubling the podium. I'd have thought Rochette is the best chance of a north American medal in the elite races, but she's an outsider.

    quite correct on both counts I'm guessing...
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    andyp said:

    Honsinger will benefit from the smaller field at the start, but unless it's heavy mud, I can't see her troubling the podium. I'd have thought Rochette is the best chance of a north American medal in the elite races, but she's an outsider.

    Rochette did alright at Brescon? The snowy World Cup so it might be in her favour if it’s snowy at the weekend.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198
    I think Rochette could be the best North American; fast conditions won't hamper her - she won a World Cup in Iowa when it was pretty fast. And has two WCup podiums this season; Besancon & Val di Sole.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    I rewatched the 2017 Elite Women's title race today, thanks to Covid, and I forgot that Rochette was fifth on a snow-covered, thawing course, at a time when she wasn't at all known outside of North America.

    I'm going to check her odds for a podium now, as I think she's a strong outside bet, especially when she was right up there at the Fayetteville WC back in the autumn and has, I believe, won on the course previously (in a non-WC race).
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    andyp said:

    They'll both be riding the u23 women's race, so it is a very, very faint chance.

    Forgot it wasn't a world cup event.
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  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Weather is stunning for the Relay this evening. Dry and fast.
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,677
    What time are the events GMT?
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    You missed today's! Was good, quick, shows just how faster / more powerful blokes are vs da ladeez. Unless they drop their chain.

    Eurosport (player app) coverage:
    tomorrow 1625 - 2155
    Sunday 1625 - 2220
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,677
    Top man thanks. I’m going to be popular in the house with those two and the Aussie open final.
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cycling/58947639

    For those who don't want to watch the GCN/Eurosport coverage......
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    andyrac said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cycling/58947639

    For those who don't want to watch the GCN/Eurosport coverage......

    Ah cool, thanks for the info. Big screen better than little 'un, given ES Player app giving me grief.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    Junior women's was close run thing. Not. Different class.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    orraloon said:

    Junior women's was close run thing. Not. Different class.

    Yeah, enjoyed it for the result rather than the race itself.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198
    Not really a race for 1st place - exploded up the first climb, and rode away. Joins a small group of British CX World champions.......
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    I watched it on the BBC and found the commentary interesting.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    Now re-read that bbc link and realise they are not showing all races. Not the men's U23 live now, and only Men's Elite tomorrow. Back to the iPad ESplayer app...
  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    Not a fan of this circuit. Too fast and doesn't seem technical enough.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    The circuit is only part of the story. That u23 mens race was a great watch, because the riders raced it flat out.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    Agreed. Good watch. Now how does that Musical Youth song go again? Oh yeah, pass the Dutchie... 😊
  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    Each to their own I guess. I just don't enjoy the fast hard surfaces. Will probably only bother with the start of the men's tomorrow now, in case it looks good. Even just a section of sand or with a severe camber would have added some interest and skill. On this circuit van Aert would lap the other riders.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Currently cheering on Silvia Persico, hoping she can prevent an all Orange podium....
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198
    squired said:

    Not a fan of this circuit. Too fast and doesn't seem technical enough.

    It's not great, but it's not the worst we've seen in recent years; Bogense & Dubendorf were even worse' flat & featureless. I don't mind it being fast, if it's technical...
    The only feature on this course is the longish climb - but apart from that there's nothing technical.
    And as we've just seen, the CX specialist Brand just couldn't shake Vos on that course; there was nowhere to make a difference.

    And an impressive ride from Persico, who's riding well in recent weeks.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661


    Anyone know what Sven is talking about?

    Also, that’s how to apologise.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    andyp said:
    Was Vos sucking wheel, riding for herself, in an national team race again?
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