The End Of Campagnolo?

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So, what are your opinions - are we witnesses to the end of Campagnolo? Is it as far as it goes for Vicenza?
New 2022 Shimano offerings seem to be real killers & SRAM is also a super formidable player these days. What are your general thoughts on Campagnolo? Will they survive 2022 and open a new chapter in 2023 with some new stuff?
New 2022 Shimano offerings seem to be real killers & SRAM is also a super formidable player these days. What are your general thoughts on Campagnolo? Will they survive 2022 and open a new chapter in 2023 with some new stuff?
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sram, IMHO , not as robust or the product design of the above.
Campagnolo, I get what they do and there seems to be a rich vein of riders who appreciate the design, beauty and functionality of their kit whilst willing to pay a premium over Shimano.
I doubt Campag shareholders are lying awake at night wondering what the competition are doing. They have a strong product line and a wealth of in house expertise for future development.
Desmond Tutu
When I bought the Chorus set it was significantly less than Ultegra and imo, functions better.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.
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Fwiw IF Shimano do abandon mechanical at the top end far from killing Campag it should be a boost.
My current bike has Ultegra, which is fantastic too. I was going to say it has been faultless, but the crank suffered the de-gluing/.oming apart issue that is quite common, and I had a bit of a struggle to get them to replace it as it was outside the 2 year warranty. They did come round to my way of thinking eventually.
Expect yet another groupset leap from Campagnolo in the new Year.
As for 1x systems, Campagnolo can’t make Ekar fast enough. They’re selling sh%t loads!
P.S. Why this thread? Are Campagnolo in financial trouble then?
compared to the 9 speed Veloce I've wittered on about in another thread 8000 is plastic junk.
lets not compare 8000 to 9 or 10 speed Record for fear of me laughing so hard i fall off the couch.
Campag is just lovely - design, function, build quality, everything - compared to Shimano.
I have 2 spare square taper BB’s 3 or 4 bcd135 chainrings and 2 x10 spd Chorus cassettes as spares so should last me donkeys years.
Unless things have changed now and Campag is just using more expensive materials than Shimano, I don't see how one high end mechanical setup can be better than another. Shimano have very good quality control/consistency and do over engineer their components, to the point where even the highest level products aren't always the lightest, but will generally last a lot longer.
design/functionality
shifter size - smaller
shifter shape
hood material
smoother gears going up
smoother gears going down
far better multiple shifting
lighter over all
complete aesthetics of the groupset
better brakes
doesn't feel that its made of plastic
more reliable - doesn't fall apart like 8000
serviceable
rebuildable
no pointless design features for no reason like the 8000 front mech
far nicer and more pleasurable to work on and use
the barrel adjuster on the rear mech by itself is far nicer designed, far better aesthetically and miles ahead in functionality than the whole of the 8000 groupset by itself.
But taking my Ultegra - it's noticeably noisier than the previous chorus - you may say that's down to set up but I've read a fair few comments in forums about the same thing.
I change gear cables more regularly than I would otherwise because they snap in the shifter - another known issue.
Apart from that I prefer the multishift on the chorus and the lever shape agrees with my hands more. It's small things I admit - I'm not trying to push Campag on anyone rather reacting to the sometimes expressed view that people choose Campag for sentimental reasons rather than practical ones.
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Do the shifters still have that protruding thumb switch?
but I can't help feeling what they really need is an affordable electronic groupset that gets specced on OEM bikes to get a new generation of riders using it.
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club bore. snoooooze. ignore.
Second para:
rubbish.
what everyone needs to realuse is that well set up mechanical is as goos as electronic and for 80% of riders a far far better option and stop deep throating the marketing hyperbole.