Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread
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Yes it was - Derby doesn't have the capacity required.Pross said:
I'd assumed it was going to be Derby. Seating capacity must be the reason, Newport probably only holds a few hundred.yorkshireraw said:
Wouldn't Newport or Derby be closer and a bit different? Or do they not have the spectating capacity?Pross said:Slightly off topic, I was wondering where are they going to hold the track cycling for the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham as they picked it up late on so don't have new venues. Turns out it will be at the Olympic velodrome in London. Then again the 'Tokyo' velodrome was hundreds of miles from Tokyo. I guess it makes sense for sustainability reasons to use suitable existing facilities within a sensible distance of the host city (I'm not convinced Tahiti falls into that category for Paris though!).
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I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).0 -
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.0 -
Nearly right. Only out by a few. 50 or so..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Men's_qualificationrick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.1 -
*shrug*blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
I like rugby. I've no idea what happened in the Olympics though.
If rugby's in - and most other team sports - cricket should be in.
Not sure about T10 though, I find T20 is often a bit one dimensional. The only good thing about it, is it's done in an evening... All single innings games basically boil down to a run chase.0 -
rick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
I think this is the problem.JimD666 said:
Nearly right. Only out by a few. 50 or so..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Men's_qualificationrick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
The perception is that few countries play rugby. In fact most countries play rugby union.
(As with cricket, even you Dutchies, Rick.)"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Without wishing to reopen that debate, they are mostly South African and Australian though.blazing_saddles said:rick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
I think this is the problem.JimD666 said:
Nearly right. Only out by a few. 50 or so..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Men's_qualificationrick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
The perception is that few countries play rugby. In fact most countries play rugby union.
(As with cricket, even you Dutchies, Rick.)0 -
Haha I’m sure most countries can find 50 odd players who play a sport.blazing_saddles said:rick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
I think this is the problem.JimD666 said:
Nearly right. Only out by a few. 50 or so..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Men's_qualificationrick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
The perception is that few countries play rugby. In fact most countries play rugby union.
(As with cricket, even you Dutchies, Rick.)
That doesn’t mean there are enough players that they can field anything that approaches being competitive.
I mean look at Pool B in North America. That is a joke of a competition. Basically Canada plays it and that’s it of that group.
Most Dutch people couldn’t tell you the rules of cricket.0 -
I ignored it as it is not the pinnacle of the sport.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
Turns out it was rugby 7s. I think a case can be made.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Isn't that figure 'skewed' by India/Pakistan? A sport which had a recent World Cup with 8 countries isn't really 'global'. I doubt there are many more countries were there is a high level, professional league taking place. And I say that a cricket fan.bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
A counterpoint would be baseball; but it's massive, in USA, Japan and the non anglophone West Indies - and has a lot more financial muscle then cricket.
Baseball's administrators seem a lot more switched on to growing their game, than their counterparts in cricket, who are notoriously poor at doing the same. Instead, they try to keep India, England & Australia happy - all while NZ walk off with the first World Test Championship.
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Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)0 -
Surprising amount of baseball in Holland. With proper pitches and everything...TheBigBean said:
Without wishing to reopen that debate, they are mostly South African and Australian though.blazing_saddles said:rick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
I think this is the problem.JimD666 said:
Nearly right. Only out by a few. 50 or so..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_sevens_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Men's_qualificationrick_chasey said:
Only about 8 Olympic countries play rugby.blazing_saddles said:
What exactly is folk's problem with rugby, that they think it shouldn't be in the Olympics?bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
Seems like a pretty good fit with the Olympics to me, as after being amateur, both allowed professionalism, within a decade of each other.
You might as well call for hockey to be removed, never mind a minority guest sport like baseball.
The perception is that few countries play rugby. In fact most countries play rugby union.
(As with cricket, even you Dutchies, Rick.)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)0 -
Yes of course, I thought I said that somewhere. Everyone in India likes cricket and there's a billion of themandyrac said:
Isn't that figure 'skewed' by India/Pakistan? A sport which had a recent World Cup with 8 countries isn't really 'global'. I doubt there are many more countries were there is a high level, professional league taking place. And I say that a cricket fan.bobmcstuff said:
I don't think it should be either, really - but they should either have it in or take out rugby etc.ddraver said:No way cricket should be in the Olympics. It's almost as bad as rugby.
(and I love them both, but...c'mon...)
Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world (apparently).
A counterpoint would be baseball; but it's massive, in USA, Japan and the non anglophone West Indies - and has a lot more financial muscle then cricket.
Baseball's administrators seem a lot more switched on to growing their game, than their counterparts in cricket, who are notoriously poor at doing the same. Instead, they try to keep India, England & Australia happy - all while NZ walk off with the first World Test Championship.
Other sports get in on less though.0 -
Go for it. I enjoyed the rugby at the Olympics, but if they were looking for sports that large population countries do who are not already well represented, I'd say cricket fits the bill better than rugby.TheBigBean said:
There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
And definitely when they were looking to ditch a sport a few years back, wrestling was the one they tried, which I'd keep over rugby for sure.0 -
Olympic status for Kabaddi should be obvious.0
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I would 100% watch that...kingstongraham said:Olympic status for Kabaddi should be obvious.
Isn't becoming an instant expert on some niche sport you've never previously watched what the Olympics is all about?2 -
That's the other angle isn't it - having cricket in would drive interest in the Olympics in countries like India which are not well represented at the moment.kingstongraham said:
Go for it. I enjoyed the rugby at the Olympics, but if they were looking for sports that large population countries do who are not already well represented, I'd say cricket fits the bill better than rugby.TheBigBean said:
There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
And definitely when they were looking to ditch a sport a few years back, wrestling was the one they tried, which I'd keep over rugby for sure.
Anyone hazard a guess how many medals India got? I was very surprised when I looked it up just now.0 -
Men's javelin gold, I think a hockey bronze? Maybe a few other bronze and silvers but not many.bobmcstuff said:
That's the other angle isn't it - having cricket in would drive interest in the Olympics in countries like India which are not well represented at the moment.kingstongraham said:
Go for it. I enjoyed the rugby at the Olympics, but if they were looking for sports that large population countries do who are not already well represented, I'd say cricket fits the bill better than rugby.TheBigBean said:
There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
And definitely when they were looking to ditch a sport a few years back, wrestling was the one they tried, which I'd keep over rugby for sure.
Anyone hazard a guess how many medals India got? I was very surprised when I looked it up just now.0 -
If we're restricting Olympic sports to those where many countries are competitive then I can think of a couple of God level events that have been utterly dominated by a couple of nations... 100m sprint removed 😉Warning No formatter is installed for the format1
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7 total - 1 gold, 2 silver, 4 bronze, 48th in the medal table.kingstongraham said:
Men's javelin gold, I think a hockey bronze? Maybe a few other bronze and silvers but not many.bobmcstuff said:
That's the other angle isn't it - having cricket in would drive interest in the Olympics in countries like India which are not well represented at the moment.kingstongraham said:
Go for it. I enjoyed the rugby at the Olympics, but if they were looking for sports that large population countries do who are not already well represented, I'd say cricket fits the bill better than rugby.TheBigBean said:
There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
And definitely when they were looking to ditch a sport a few years back, wrestling was the one they tried, which I'd keep over rugby for sure.
Anyone hazard a guess how many medals India got? I was very surprised when I looked it up just now.
Not a lot for the second most populous country in the world.0 -
Much better than the rest of the subcontinent though.bobmcstuff said:
7 total - 1 gold, 2 silver, 4 bronze, 48th in the medal table.kingstongraham said:
Men's javelin gold, I think a hockey bronze? Maybe a few other bronze and silvers but not many.bobmcstuff said:
That's the other angle isn't it - having cricket in would drive interest in the Olympics in countries like India which are not well represented at the moment.kingstongraham said:
Go for it. I enjoyed the rugby at the Olympics, but if they were looking for sports that large population countries do who are not already well represented, I'd say cricket fits the bill better than rugby.TheBigBean said:
There's a much stronger case for rugby 7s in the Olympics than there is for cricket.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
And definitely when they were looking to ditch a sport a few years back, wrestling was the one they tried, which I'd keep over rugby for sure.
Anyone hazard a guess how many medals India got? I was very surprised when I looked it up just now.
Not a lot for the second most populous country in the world.0 -
Come on, Italy haven't won it that often.No_Ta_Doctor said:If we're restricting Olympic sports to those where many countries are competitive then I can think of a couple of God level events that have been utterly dominated by a couple of nations... 100m sprint removed 😉
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Surely that was an anomaly though?kingstongraham said:
Come on, Italy haven't won it that often.No_Ta_Doctor said:If we're restricting Olympic sports to those where many countries are competitive then I can think of a couple of God level events that have been utterly dominated by a couple of nations... 100m sprint removed 😉
Plus Lamont Jacobs, (although he doesn't speak great English) is half American.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I would have thought rugby falls into that as well - possibly saved by France, Italy and Argentina.RichN95. said:I know there are some sports which are perceived as 'British Commonwealth' sports by the IOC. Hockey almost got dropped after 2012 due to this (despite the finalists being Netherlands x2, Germany and Argentina). This would count against cricket
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5 different countries' representatives winning gold in the last 8 games isn't bad is it? Especially when bolt won 3. With another 4 different countries getting medals in that period, that means it's fairly diverse surely...blazing_saddles said:
Surely that was an anomaly though?kingstongraham said:
Come on, Italy haven't won it that often.No_Ta_Doctor said:If we're restricting Olympic sports to those where many countries are competitive then I can think of a couple of God level events that have been utterly dominated by a couple of nations... 100m sprint removed 😉
Plus Lamont Jacobs, (although he doesn't speak great English) is half American.
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Not very often. It is sometimes a stepping stone but theyhave started to develop as different skill sets. Possibly more likely in some of the teams that are second tier in the 15 player game like Fiji. I'm still not convinced it has a place at the Olympics but it does feel like 7s is a variant that other countries could start to develop in far more easily than the 15 player version as it is less technical.kingstongraham said:Cricket World Cup had 10 countries. There was a qualifying tournament to decide who two of them would be.
The 2023 tournament has a qualifying process where 32 countries will be whittled down to 10 for the tournament. Not sure why it would be in the Olympics though.
(And the olympic rugby 7s was a good tournament - I've no idea whether a full strength 7s team would have players who play top level 15s, but i don't think there were any there in the men's.)
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