TDF 2021: Stage 17 Muret > Saint-Lary-Soulan Col du Portet 178.4 km **Spoilers**
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At least Pog was kept quite honest by Vinegar.================
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There were a pair on display in a lime green mankini yes.jam1e said:Bollocks.
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LOL"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Carapaz needed to.wait 250m more"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Well, if there was any doubt. This race had the guts ripped out of it on the very first mountain stage.
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For anyone that's interested, this time calculator for the cut offs works pretty well.
https://www.velofacts.com/cx-laps/tour-de-france-2021-time-limit-calculator.html
Pretty easy to predict the cut off based on the time schedules so whilst I'm getting excited about Cav making or not making the cut I reckon it's pretty much a done deal as they get on their bikes in the morning, providing nothing untoward happens during the day.2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
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Pogacar over estimated himself there. Carapaz flicking them both was comedy gold"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1
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First time trialblazing_saddles said:Well, if there was any doubt. This race had the guts ripped out of it on the very first mountain stage.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Pretty sure Pog was smiling on Carapaz's wheel just before Vingergaard got back.
It feels like we regularly look forward to a battle between young riders for years to come that never materialises but it does feel like Pog and Vingergaard (plus hopefully a fit again Bernal) could become a bit of a cycling equivalent of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.0 -
Quite happy with that. Carapaz not getting anything out of trying to mug a vikingWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Wiggins really struggles with riders' names.0
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It's been notable for Vingegaard coming from nowhere to ride with the best in the world.blazing_saddles said:Well, if there was any doubt. This race had the guts ripped out of it on the very first mountain stage.
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Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.0
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I guess we can call him Dick Dastardly from now on!0
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LOL!0
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He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
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Everyone in under time"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Best tactics he has used all tourhypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
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Cav in a minibus at 34.10 a couple of minutes behind the 52 seater0
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Agreed, thought he played it well but Pog was too strong for him. I think he did genuinely struggle when Pog first attacked and may have needed some time to recover after Castro paced him backabove_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
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Tomorrow is a coefficient 5 luckily as that will probably make the time cut similar to today. At the same percentage as today they would probably only had a 20-25 limit. I suspect Bike Exchange and Bahrain will push hard to drop Cav on the second 4th cat climb which looks quite tough as it is just before the bonus sprint.0
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Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
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Colbrelli is too far back to be of any concern. Unless Bling gets in the break that'll likely mop the big points up (or the peloton is leading the race at that point), Cav won't be all that fussed.Pross said:I suspect Bike Exchange and Bahrain will push hard to drop Cav on the second 4th cat climb which looks quite tough as it is just before the bonus sprint.
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hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.Twitter: @RichN950 -
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.0 -
It's a mountain stage, there's little to be gained by sharing the work. Pog initiated the attacking, Carapaz lost ground initially then sat in once he got back. If you attack on a mountain you need to be prepared for others to just follow and wait for their moment. I really don't get why people are trying to make something out of it.hypster said:
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.1 -
Where did Matthews gain his points? When I looked before the rest day I thought he was only a point ahead of Colbrelli and about 100 behind Cav. I know they both gained quite a few points yesterday and Colbrelli more than Matthews. Did Matthews pick a load up over the weekend that I missed?notquite6foot said:
Colbrelli is too far back to be of any concern. Unless Bling gets in the break that'll likely mop the big points up (or the peloton is leading the race at that point), Cav won't be all that fussed.Pross said:I suspect Bike Exchange and Bahrain will push hard to drop Cav on the second 4th cat climb which looks quite tough as it is just before the bonus sprint.
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hypster said:
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.
Where does it say in these unwritten rules, that if you are attacked but don't get dropped, you have to work with the guy who attacked you?hypster said:
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.
Plus why on earth would Carapaz work with a guy who is 1 second ahead on GC?
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Well Vingegaard had no problem working with Pogacar even though he was trying to drop him. The pair of them were so pissed off with Carapaz's tactics that they obviously agreed at one point to try and work together to drop him. Nobody likes a wheel-sucker obviously.blazing_saddles said:hypster said:
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.
Where does it say in these unwritten rules, that if you are attacked but don't get dropped, you have to work with the guy who attacked you?hypster said:
In doing so he treated Pogacar and Vingegaard like mugs. I'm sure Pogacar will bide his time and pay back Carapaz in Spades. Hopefully that will be on tomorrow's stage and Uran can get some time back. He's a better time-trialler than he showed in the first TT as well.RichN95. said:hypster said:
Co-operated with Pogacar and Vingegaard to put even more time into Uran. I hope Uran knocks him off the podium.above_the_cows said:
He's moved onto the podium and he tried to move ahead of Vingegaard. What do you think he should have done instead?hypster said:Piss poor tactics from Carapaz, I think.
He took 1.50 out of him and there's another stage tomorrow. He only lost 36s to Uran in the first TT. He now leads him by a minute and a half. Carapaz wanted the stage.
Plus why on earth would Carapaz work with a guy who is 1 second ahead on GC?
You must have been listening to the nonsense ITV were spouting.0