TDF 2021: Stage 11, Sorgues > Malaucène 198.9 km **Spoilers**

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    edited July 2021
    Well done to O'connor rolling in 4 minutes down, only down to 6th?

    Edit: 5th
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Some twee halen een betalen sokken, a rookwoorst and a tray of nasty cheap tompouce being delivered as we speak...


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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Pross said:

    Well, despite the high pitched excited tones of CK for most of the afternoon that was rubbish. Excellent ride by WVA but yet again the big showpiece stage brings zero GC action.

    I don't know about zero GC action, a lot of podium contenders are now out of it. But I can't help but feel that Ineos played into Pogacar's hands. It's like they know no other way to race.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Cav group was 9.4km down the climb when leader crossed the summit so assuming they descend at the same speed they would have to climb that section at around 12km/h which sounds reasonable.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    If you aren't interested in stage winners, you'll find most stages uninteresting.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Pross said:

    Well, despite the high pitched excited tones of CK for most of the afternoon that was rubbish. Excellent ride by WVA but yet again the big showpiece stage brings zero GC action.

    I got into hot water some time back for suggesting that today wouldn't deliver much GC action.
    At least what little GC action we got was rather unexpected.
    More punchy stages please, less monster mountain attrition.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    blazing_saddles said:

    Pross said:

    Well, despite the high pitched excited tones of CK for most of the afternoon that was rubbish. Excellent ride by WVA but yet again the big showpiece stage brings zero GC action.

    I got into hot water some time back for suggesting that today wouldn't deliver much GC action.
    At least what little GC action we got was rather unexpected.
    More punchy stages please, less monster mountain attrition.
    Surely you need both, the accumulated exhaustion over three weeks is a key factor.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Gap between first and second with half the race left is 5'-18".
    Good luck lads.
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Cav 49 minutes down at the summit apparently.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    larkim said:

    Cav 49 minutes down at the summit apparently.

    Eek
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    Wva lost zero seconds to anyone on the way down
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    larkim said:

    Cav 49 minutes down at the summit apparently.


    Didn't Magnus reckon cut off was 41ish?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    They should get a camera bike back up the descent to cover the grupetto.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    BBC says the sprinters are expected to make up time on the descent. Why do they think riders at the back will be able to descend faster than the guy who won the stage when they are all knackered, even if they are speed demons on the flat?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    The 💚
    @MarkCavendish
    gruppetto still had 4.8km of climbing to do when
    @WoutvanAert
    took the win in Malaucène.
    They need to average 34.4km/h in the last 26.8km of the stage to survive the time cutoff.
    #TDF2021 #TDFdata
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    edited July 2021
    kingstongraham said:

    larkim said:

    Cav 49 minutes down at the summit apparently.

    Eek
    50 mins 55 seconds currently for the 42 riders in the Cav group including G, Sagan and Colbrelli according to the TDF website.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    larkim said:

    BBC says the sprinters are expected to make up time on the descent. Why do they think riders at the back will be able to descend faster than the guy who won the stage when they are all knackered, even if they are speed demons on the flat?

    Bbc never seen wva descend, clearly.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    Time gaps that are being quoted are all over the place. Anything from 35 minutes to 55 on Twitter.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    You lot need more faith in the bus driver calculations. It's fine!
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited July 2021
    It's a 15% cut off as the stage was over 37kph average so will be 39' 40" give or take a second (unless I've miscalculated the average speed - 5h 17' 43" for 199km)
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,599
    Pross said:

    It's a 15% cut off as the stage was over 37kph average so will be 39' 40" give or take a second.

    It's over 47 minutes according to the official race website.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    Pross said:

    They should get a camera bike back up the descent to cover the grupetto.

    Not sure sending traffic heading towards riders descending at anything up to 100kmh is necessarily the smartest move, no matter how much we'd like to see what's going on.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,146
    Pross said:

    It's a 15% cut off as the stage was over 37kph average so will be 39' 40" give or take a second (unless I've miscalculated the average speed - 5h 17' 43" for 199km)

    The speed is right, so I don't know what you've miscalculated, but 15% of 5h17 is 47 and a bit minutes.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    gsk82 said:

    Pross said:

    It's a 15% cut off as the stage was over 37kph average so will be 39' 40" give or take a second.

    It's over 47 minutes according to the official race website.
    Ah yes, I'd started typing 47 then looked at my calculator which I'd use to calculate the second from a percentage of a minute. It's about 47'37"
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Orla just mentioned the ECHELON klaxons.

    She's a lurker.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    above_the_cows said:

    Orla just mentioned the ECHELON klaxons.

    She's a lurker.

    It was my immediate thought, I'll confess. In the sense of being a cycling fan, rather than someone who posts here, she really does give the impression of being one of us.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Last man in so far is Quintana at 33' 10" in 115th place.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    WvA didn't push it on the descent, as he knew he didn't need to. The others made time back on him.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,815
    I'm Orla Chennaoui!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    A bunch of sprinters now home at 37" and change.
    145 riders have finished.
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