Liege - Bastonge - Liege 2021 ***Spoilers***

ddraver
ddraver Posts: 26,383
edited April 2021 in Pro race
At the request of the good not a doctor...

Family raver has a puppy arriving today so anticipation levels are high.





We race from Liege, to Bastogne and...not sure where next

The Ardennes are hilly with a capital STEEP! Oro-typical gradients are frankly flat. This is a peneplain. Not a mountain range. As the land goes up, the rivers cut down and rivers make valleys with steep sides. When the sun shines it is a beautiful place. Walks (or MTB rides) under beautiful forests with open spaces in the valleys below. La Roche Ardenne has one of the best campsites I've ever seen. Scars of it's military past can be seen everywhere. I'm sure we've all watched Band of Brothers.

2020 Mwah ha ha ha ha





Panzers - Got to be a continuation of the WvA/JA/TP battle really with a hint of Roglic thrown in for extra spice. Likewise its time for Niewadoma to shake free from her anchors and fly free (but it will probably be Van Vleuten)

Shermans - Do not rule out a cheeky breakaway from a GC Specialist or a second-tier classicist. It has been done before. A very high chance of this in the girl's race as none of them are prepared to work with anyone else. Is LizzieD riding..?


Food and Drink

Drink - Beer - you know this by know

Food - I mean...Salade Liegois is a bit obvious. Belgians are good at cooking - it's hard to miss honestly. Until the worlds however, it's time for one last cone of...








We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
- @ddraver
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,279
    Will repost this here...

    Can't do an lbl spoiler thread from my phone, but a couple of interesting* facts

    No rider has been on the podium twice in the last 5 editions.

    Of the current pro peloton, only Valverde, Kwiatkowski and *ahem* Rebellin have been on the podium more than once.

    Only 17 riders have won it more than once, over the 106 editions. These riders have 44 wins between them. 62 riders have a single win.

    Does this make it the most open, or hardest to win monument?





    *For a nondeterminate value of interesting

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    ddraver said:



    Family raver has a puppy arriving today so anticipation levels are high.


    You know the rules. Any puppy/kitten/baby gets named after the race winner.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    edited April 2021
    She's going to be sis-raver's so I will be unlikely to get a say (In fact I think it's already too late).

    Shame because there's actually some good pickings tomorrow. Roglic, Wout, Tom, julien...all decent boy dog names. Lizzie, Katya, Breggen - not bad for a girl
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,435
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:



    Family raver has a puppy arriving today so anticipation levels are high.


    You know the rules. Any puppy/kitten/baby gets named after the race winner.
    Did Dirk de Wolf make a come back and win anything on Good Friday? If not I breached the rules.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,922
    Pidcock out

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,811
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,905
    Crazy for me. Resting someone from one of the biggest races of the year so they're ready for a chipper next week.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    You put your Pidcock in
    Your Pidcock out
    In Out In Out
    Shake it all about
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Just came on to share the Insta post from Ineos, although I see is covered already:


  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,279
    DSM out of women's race with a Covid
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,922
    I fancy Pog for this tomorrow

    I suspect in this new generation he's the stand out talent.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,279

    I fancy Pog for this tomorrow

    I suspect in this new generation he's the stand out talent.

    Yeah, he's my favourite for it as well.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,095
    Isn't his main talent his ability to recover, so he's more suited to stage race success. He's yet to win a one day race so, whilst it's possible he could win tomorrow, he's not the stand out favourite.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    edited April 2021
    He doesn't have Roglic's sprint for a group finale but I can imagine him slipping away on the sneaky...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    edited April 2021
    ddraver said:

    He doesn't have Roglic's sprint for a group finale but I can imagine him slipping away on the sneaky...


    He outsprinted Roglic twice at last year's Tour. There's always the caveat about sprints at the end of long hard classics not being the same as when fresher
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,776
    Could be anyone
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,334
    edited April 2021
    Yeah it's really entirely open. Alaphilippe has the advantage of the best team though.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,905
    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah it's really entirely open. Alaphilippe has the advantage of the best team though.

    QuickStep has had far less success at LBL than they've had at any other classic.
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    phreak said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Yeah it's really entirely open. Alaphilippe has the advantage of the best team though.

    QuickStep has had far less success at LBL than they've had at any other classic.
    time they rectified that then :)

  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,811
    Nice profile of the final kms.


    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,705
    That'll be after the potential winners are filtered out on the Redoute, I'd think?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,517
    JA needs it to be hot weather.

    He’s not good when it’s cold.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Girls go Live with 45km to go.

    Single attacker up the road with a fluctuating 20 - 30s
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Ashleigh Moolman Passio forces the split on La Redoute. The standard group of big names all go clear as one.

    Cecile attacks across the gap and draws Lucinda Brand out off the front on the false flat at the top.

    Immediately the chase falters as no one will work.

    CUL, LB and AMP working well together
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Some teammates join back on the descent so they can acquaint themselves with the revolutionary concept of a bigger group of riders working together to pull a small group back.

    Gap is falling slowly but inexorably

    25 to go and it's down to 8s
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,922
    ddraver said:

    Girls go Live with 45km to go.

    Single attacker up the road with a fluctuating 20 - 30s

    Is this a deliberate change in the timing of the women's races or is it just getting more coverage
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Gap increases to 30s again over next climb but front 3 are now playing games.

    Movistar and a little bit of JV working on the front
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    edited April 2021
    Credit to CUL to refuses to play the stupid games and just sits up. Genuine looks of surprise on Brand & MP's faces...

    18 to go, all back together
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,663
    How not to drop Vos 😊
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    SD Worx make it hard and a final attack by CUL over La Roche and drops Vos...and herself.

    Group in front.....stops working on the descent as ELB gets to the front.

    Vos gets back on (with CUL)

    Utterly ridiculous riding (albeit great by Vos)

    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver