Wout van Aert appreciation thread

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    TheBigBean said:

    rick_chasey said:

    I can’t remember Hushovd winning a maintain stage but his main problem was his threat diminished substantially over 200km.

    Never won a monument

    When he won the worlds it was 260km.

    He was my PTP pick when he won on a mountain stage, so I remember it well. Dropped on the climb by one rider, caught him on the descent and then soloed to victory.
    I remember that - fantastic stage. Over the Aubisque summit with 40km to go, he was 2 minutes down on Roy with Moncoutie in between.

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk57n6
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kingstongraham said:

    How would you classify stage 7 in 2020? Crosswinds, but classic Sagan stage with a sprint at the end but a big long climb in the middle after a sharp climb near the start.


    Wikipedia says Flat Stage
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    Anyone got a few bob spare?

    https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/50055299-team-jumbo-visma-tour-de-france-2021-wout-van-aert-competition-worn-roadsuit-certificate-of-authenticity
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    kingstongraham said:

    Anyone got a few bob spare?

    https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/50055299-team-jumbo-visma-tour-de-france-2021-wout-van-aert-competition-worn-roadsuit-certificate-of-authenticity

    It feels a bit pervy buying a used skinsuit!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    Pross said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Anyone got a few bob spare?

    https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/50055299-team-jumbo-visma-tour-de-france-2021-wout-van-aert-competition-worn-roadsuit-certificate-of-authenticity

    It feels a bit pervy buying a used skinsuit!
    Ha - you think it's not washed?.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    Tony's had holes prior to washing.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited March 2022
    I can't put my finger on exactly why, but I've taken against WVA, solely due to the Red Bull helmet

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    tailwindhome said:

    I can't put my finger on exactly why, but I've taken against WVA, solely due to the Red Bull helmet

    why?

    its ok for him to have Jumbo Vidma all over his clothes but not wear his sponsor's colours on his helmet?

    ok, he's not MvdP but he's frickin' cool.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    tailwindhome said:

    I can't put my finger on exactly why, but I've taken against WVA, solely due to the Red Bull helmet

    Do you not appreciate the ease with which you’re able to spot him with said helmet?
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    rick_chasey said:

    tailwindhome said:

    I can't put my finger on exactly why, but I've taken against WVA, solely due to the Red Bull helmet

    Do you not appreciate the ease with which you’re able to spot him with said helmet?
    The jersey makes it pretty easy to be fair. And the normal helmet with "WOUT" on it was a giveaway before.

    The red bull helmet is ugly.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 584
    Me too TWH. It's a team sport so I think that's why I feel unhappy about it. I know riders have different shoes but the helmet is so visible and that one is jarring.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    edited March 2022
    I'll predict it is the start of a trend. Not that I think it is a good thing but cyclists are moving billboards. Why wouldn't others do something similar since it is so obvious?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Me as I see the ugly helmet go by

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    I always thought Red Bull and Wout was a strange match; he's not the classic RB athlete - they tend to be action/ extreme sport participants. So MTB, MX, Motorsport, Freestyle, etc
    However, he's Belgian, and apart from Martin Maes, they don't have too many world class off road (non CX) cyclists.
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    andyrac said:

    I always thought Red Bull and Wout was a strange match; he's not the classic RB athlete - they tend to be action/ extreme sport participants. So MTB, MX, Motorsport, Freestyle, etc
    However, he's Belgian, and apart from Martin Maes, they don't have too many world class off road (non CX) cyclists.

    https://youtu.be/qMxX-QOV9tI

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    everyone has a mortgage to pay so can't blame him tbh.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    edited March 2022
    It seems to be something they're doing more and more...



    Have a look here (don't know if my filters will work) there are some fairly un-extreme sports on the list



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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    19 race days this season, 14 top three finishes.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited June 2022
    kingstongraham said:

    19 race days this season, 14 top three finishes.

    Lest we forget and quoted for posterity:
    rick_chasey said:

    .......as far as I am concerned, Wout van Aert is the best cyclist we've ever seen this century.........

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited June 2022


    And because I used 2 quotes........................................
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559
    Shame he's not as good as MvdP or Pog B)
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    MvdP is more entertaining . WvA is awesome though .
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    edited June 2022
    Case can be made that WVA is the better sprinter. He is definitely the better climber and time trialist. So, it's quite the mystery how MvdP tends to mostly if not always win against him. I genuinely don't understand it on a physiological or biomechanical level.

    Boonen vs. Cancellara was much more straightforward with Boonen being the better sprinter and Cancellara being the better tester. It's strange when one rider is seemingly better than the other at almost everything and yet tends to lose against the other.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559
    Before last year's TdF, MvdP had only been on a TT bike half a dozen times in his life. With the TT training that WvA does, if MvdP matched that, I believe MvdP would beat him regularly.
    MvdP has regularly beaten WvA in 2 up sprints.
    The only area WvA currently has an advantage is on proper mountains, but again, MvdP hadn't ever tested himself in such terrain until the Giro. I do think that WvA will remain the better mountain climber though.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,151
    And proper bunch sprints. Van der Poel just didn't want to get involved in those in Italy.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    mididoctors said:

    MvdP is more entertaining . WvA is awesome though .

    No one is as good Or lush as MvdP
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    MvdP regularly beats WvA, and since the start of the 2021 season he's 6 v 2 in the classics.

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider_vs_rider.php?type=onedayraces&filter=Filter&id1=wout-van-aert&id2=mathieu-van-der-poel&s=same-race-results
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    phreak said:

    MvdP regularly beats WvA, and since the start of the 2021 season he's 6 v 2 in the classics.

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider_vs_rider.php?type=onedayraces&filter=Filter&id1=wout-van-aert&id2=mathieu-van-der-poel&s=same-race-results

    Thats because MvdP is the best.

    FACTS DON'T LIE
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    They are quite different riders for me. MVDP is impetuous and easily bored, likely to attack at inappropriate moments. While WVA is a much more reactive rider, waiting for others to make a move, which often costs him chances as he watches the wrong riders.
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    I'd agree; they're quite different, but it's easy to compare them.

    Wout is probably a better all round road rider - as that is what he now concentrates on; lots of TT training, regular training camps climbing in prep for towing riders up mountains.

    MvdP is the better all round cyclist across different disciplines; he was on his MTB the other day at a training camp. I can't yet imagine him spending lots of time TT training, or climbing numerous cols. I actually think it bores him.
    All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."

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