Ardennes* races **Spoilers**
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Impressiveblazing_saddles said:The overhead shot shows that it wasn't even close.
Much faster than WVA."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Pidcock - WVA was pulling super hard, maybe too hard in the end0
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Was Pidcock bluffing a bit on the climbs? Seemed a bit less strong than the other two at some points - did he sucker WvA into pulling a little too hard?1
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Proper British roadie interview... Lol"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Maybe ... They saw MvdP get beat at Flanders ..he alluded to thatLanterne_Rogue said:Was Pidcock bluffing a bit on the climbs? Seemed a bit less strong than the other two at some points - did he sucker WvA into pulling a little too hard?
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
OMG its a dictatorshiprick_chasey said:OMG they stopped the Sporza coverage for an emergency newsflash about corona restrictions.
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Haha! touché.david37 said:
OMG its a dictatorshiprick_chasey said:OMG they stopped the Sporza coverage for an emergency newsflash about corona restrictions.
Here's more bad news: Jumbo's Gijs Leemreize was booted off the race."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
WvA needs a thread - he's clearly finished.2
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Can probably use the Cavendish one, given he's got no use for it anymoreTheBigBean said:WvA needs a thread - he's clearly finished.
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TheBigBean said:
WvA needs a thread - he's clearly finished.
That's the problem with these 'new generations'. Every year there's a new one.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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Time to look at the Amstel course I suppose.
Not sure what to make of it and there's no consensus among the Dutch lads over on CN.
The final laps misses out the Cauberg.
So, opinions vary from: "It's a lot harder than it looks as there's no recovery," to: "not selective enough, a reduced bunch sprint,"
Women's race coverage starts at 10-05am BST.
Men's race coverage starts at 1pm BST.
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You'd think 11 times up the Cauberg would result in some kind of selection, even if it isn't that hard on its own?0
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And yet I'm pondering switching my PTP pick due to no Cauberg in the final.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Remember the 2012 world championships?bobmcstuff said:You'd think 11 times up the Cauberg would result in some kind of selection, even if it isn't that hard on its own?
267 km, Start in Maastricht, then, after 106 km through the southern part of the province of Limburg.
10 x Circuit (10 x 16.125 km)
Circuit = west on Rijksweg in Vilt, continuing through Berg en Terblijt onto Bergerstraat, turning left grazing Maastricht on the east by going south on Molenweg, then turning left and continuing east on Bemelerweg, continuing onto Oude Akerstraat and Bemelerberg through Bemelen, continuing onto Gasthuis, turning left and continuing northeast On Smitserweg, which turns into Bemelerweg grazing Sibbe on the west and into Daalhemerweg curving to north all the way into Valkenburg aan de Geul, at the end turning left onto Cauberg, back to Vilt.
30 riders made the foot of the Cauberg for the final time before Phil Gilbert did his usual thing for back then.
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Even JTL made the final selection if I remember correctly?blazing_saddles said:
Remember the 2012 world championships?bobmcstuff said:You'd think 11 times up the Cauberg would result in some kind of selection, even if it isn't that hard on its own?
267 km, Start in Maastricht, then, after 106 km through the southern part of the province of Limburg.
10 x Circuit (10 x 16.125 km)
Circuit = west on Rijksweg in Vilt, continuing through Berg en Terblijt onto Bergerstraat, turning left grazing Maastricht on the east by going south on Molenweg, then turning left and continuing east on Bemelerweg, continuing onto Oude Akerstraat and Bemelerberg through Bemelen, continuing onto Gasthuis, turning left and continuing northeast On Smitserweg, which turns into Bemelerweg grazing Sibbe on the west and into Daalhemerweg curving to north all the way into Valkenburg aan de Geul, at the end turning left onto Cauberg, back to Vilt.
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Nope. Wasn't watching pro cycling then.blazing_saddles said:
Remember the 2012 world championships?
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That makes me feel oldbobmcstuff said:"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
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The one where GB Team gave Gilbert an armchair ride. I could cope with the tedium, but not the tactics.0
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Here's the last 10 minutes of the race. Starts from just as they are arriving at the foot of the Cauberg, so you can see the size of the group.bobmcstuff said:
It has the added bonus of commentary from David Harmon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYm2ECRk8R4 "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
In an interview years later, Gilbert was describing how much that effort hurt.
Said the burning was so bad it went all the way into his fingertips. “Just don’t sit down till you’re over the top”
Then went on to discuss with the other pros how you can only go so deep on days with top firm. Said he’s never gone so deep.0 -
Longo Borghini messes up a definite top 2 by refusing to work with Niewiadoma in the final few hundred metres and letting a group back including Vos who took the win from Vollering and van Vleuten.0
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can't say I was up early enough to watch it.
This is becoming a theme for the girls this year. Now that there are no uber-stars (AvV or AvdB) who are clearly stronger than the rest - or even a group of the rest working together - One person will sneak away and then the group of 5 or 6 big names behind just gives up (ok, won't work together).
With the exception of dish dash's training partner Anna Henderson, who is sent up the road to create a diversion for Vos, the problem now seems to be getting some domestiques who can contribute to chasing rather than being dropped immediately. Or, to disagree with Miss Niewiadoma, make the races longer and a bit more focussed on the last ~ 50kmWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I'm not sure that is ultimately true.ddraver said:can't say I was up early enough to watch it.
This is becoming a theme for the girls this year. Now that there are no uber-stars (AvV or AvdB) who are clearly stronger than the rest - or even a group of the rest working together - One person will sneak away and then the group of 5 or 6 big names behind just gives up (ok, won't work together).
With the exception of dish dash's training partner Anna Henderson, who is sent up the road to create a diversion for Vos, the problem now seems to be getting some domestiques who can contribute to chasing rather than being dropped immediately. Or, to disagree with Miss Niewiadoma, make the races longer and a bit more focussed on the last ~ 50km
While AvDB has been having a pretty quiet season since Het Nieuwsblad, Vos and Van Vlueten have still managed to pretty much clean up in all the other major races.
You are right about the lack of domestiques able to go the distance though. It's the same old problem and possibly a contributing factor as to why the big races are still dominated by the same small group of big names.
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Hopefully better pay may encourage a deeper peloton for the women"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Men’s race now live with 135kms to go.
Matt Stephens and Adam Blyth on comms"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1
